Paino Udrih Strikes Again

[dbestpro]

I'm glad that you have nothing else to say because your post makes no sense. No one is blaming any of that on Beno; just saying that the Spurs need Beno to be the backup point guard. And to be the backup point guard he has to be healthy and in shape.

I will try to simplfy my post so you can understand. Woops! Big word. So you can know what I mean. There are some people who like to blame Beno for all the Spur's problems and they believe that some how we will do better without him. In fact there is no better choice for the buck. My post is called satire. You can look that word up.

[Kori Ellis]

I will try to simplfy my post so you can understand. Woops! Big word. So you can know what I mean. There are some people who like to blame Beno for all the Spur's problems and they believe that some how we will do better without him. In fact there is no better choice for the buck. My post is called satire. You can look that word up.

I understood that it was supposed to be sarcastic. My point is that no one in the thread is blaming Beno for all the Spurs problems, just his own problems. Thus your post didn't make any sense.

In fact there is no better choice for the buck.

The Spurs have reportedly tried to trade Beno for Jarrett Jack twice. So I guess they think there's some better choices out there. They just need to find someone willing to take Beno.

[Kibic]

Wheres old Ice Cold Brewski.

He even created the infamous

Beno > Parker thread.

Hi T Park!

[dbestpro]

I understood that it was supposed to be sarcastic. My point is that no one in the thread is blaming Beno for all the Spurs problems, just his own problems. Thus your post didn't make any sense.



The Spurs have reportedly tried to trade Beno for Jarrett Jack twice. So I guess they think there's some better choices out there. They just need to find someone willing to take Beno.

Beno is only being blamed for his own problems? That doesnt make sense. It's common sense that every player is blamed for their own problems. My point is that some people and you in particular are over critical on Beno and his effect on the team. He hasn't been given an adequate amount of playing time to make some of the evaluations and assumptions that many make. One thing for sure is he is a great shooter. In this new NBA way you can't win unless you put the ball in the basket and from this point Beno will be invaluable if he is given the chance.

Also, your point about Jack just shows the expected value of Beno as Jack is projected to be the starting point guard of Portland. Keep it up and we'll make you a Beno fan, yet.

[ashbeeigh]

He hasn't been given an adequate amount of playing time to make some of the evaluations and assumptions that many make.

But why hasn't he been given enough playing time? It's because of the many things people have discussed in the past about him, (not me, but others here) including injuries such as the one he has right now.

[dbestpro]

Last year was the love fest with Nick. It was only Beno's second year. Beno was impressive with his production every time he hit the floor, but Pop chose to go with Nick for the playoff experience. Some have suggested that this decision cost the Spurs a repeat. Time will tell.

[Obstructed_View]

ing bas useless Beno. Getting hurt. What a ing loser.

[Nikos]

ing bas useless Beno. Getting hurt. What a ing loser.

[Renu_]

And honestly, he's not even a point guard to begin with.

Alright, i just thought i should quote you on this.

[Kori Ellis]

My point is that some people and you in particular are over critical on Beno and his effect on the team. He hasn't been given an adequate amount of playing time to make some of the evaluations and assumptions that many make. One thing for sure is he is a great shooter. In this new NBA way you can't win unless you put the ball in the basket and from this point Beno will be invaluable if he is given the chance.

Also, your point about Jack just shows the expected value of Beno as Jack is projected to be the starting point guard of Portland. Keep it up and we'll make you a Beno fan, yet.

I guess Pop agrees with me that Beno has had his chances and just needs to stay healthy and sack up. He called him the 4th string point guard.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51064

[Obstructed_View]

I guess Pop agrees with me that Beno has had his chances and just needs to stay healthy and sack up. He called him the 4th string point guard.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51064

Again, shocking to discover that Pop dislikes Beno, and can't get past his personal grudges for the good of the team.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Again, shocking to discover that Pop dislikes Beno, and can't get past his personal grudges for the good of the team.

I'm sure glad to know that Pop's grudges are what caused Beno to not walk about 47 feet in under eight seconds.

I hadn't realized that Pop's grudges physically manifested themselves and trapped Beno along the sidelines.

Beno will be an All-Star if he just gets out of Pop's doghouse. The way Pop handles players is one of the reasons Beno Udrih can call himself a NBA Champion.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm sure glad to know that Pop's grudges are what caused Beno to not walk about 47 feet in under eight seconds.

I hadn't realized that Pop's grudges physically manifested themselves and trapped Beno along the sidelines.

Beno will be an All-Star if he just gets out of Pop's doghouse. The way Pop handles players is one of the reasons Beno Udrih can call himself a NBA Champion.

Funny that people will forgive Manu committing a foul that eliminated them from the playoffs, but they won't forgive Beno turning the ball over against the Rockets in the regular season. Again, if we knew all we needed to know by the Rockets game, then why in the is Beno still here? And, whose fault is it that he is?

[ChumpDumper]

Again, if we knew all we needed to know by the Rockets game, then why in the is Beno still here?

Guaranteed contract.

[Obstructed_View]

Guaranteed contract.

So you can't trade a guy with a guaranteed contract? When was that rule passed?

[ChumpDumper]

You can't trade a guy with a guaranteed contract if nobody wants him.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Funny that people will forgive Manu committing a foul that eliminated them from the playoffs, but they won't forgive Beno turning the ball over against the Rockets in the regular season.

I'm sorry, it's my fault really. I have this habit of letting things slide from players who actually produce, go to All-Star games, help the Spurs win championships, etc.

[Obstructed_View]

You can't trade a guy with a guaranteed contract if nobody wants him.

Bad mouthing him to the press and showing not a lick of confidence in him is a GREAT way to increase his trade value. Pop has done a masterful job of cementing Beno's useless ass to the Spurs sideline for another year.

Not surprising from the guy who says:

“He's the fourth point guard on our team now,”

Followed by:

“I'm not going to sit them just to play Beno because he's healthy again. The longer he's out, the longer he's going to wait for his shot to show us something.”

Followed by:

"This is the year he needs to show that (he can do it consistently) to us."

At this point, why should Beno care? Like you said, he has a guaranteed contract.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm sorry, it's my fault really. I have this habit of letting things slide from players who actually produce, go to All-Star games, help the Spurs win championships, etc.

How, in your estimation, did that foul help the Spurs win a championship?

[ChumpDumper]

Bad mouthing him to the press and showing not a lick of confidence in him is a GREAT way to increase his trade value.

Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'.

At this point, why should Beno care? Like you said, he has a guaranteed contract.

Right. He shouldn't. He should just wait to be waived so he can go back to Europe.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

How, in your estimation, did that foul help the Spurs win a championship?

You must be forgetting about 2003 and 2005. The Spurs won championships with Manu as a huge factor...

Beno will be remembered for dry humping Brent Barry on the sidelines in 05.

But nice Straw Man argument...well, not really since about 90 percent here will see right through it.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Just for a second, though....let's heap it on Manu for the foul.

Who helped the Spurs get to that point in Game 7 more?

[ChumpDumper]

Manu will be filler for the Beno-to-Maccabi trade.

[polandprzem]

Manu will be filler for the Beno-to-Maccabi trade.

they do not want Manu, he is injury prone....

[Obstructed_View]

You must be forgetting about 2003 and 2005. The Spurs won championships with Manu as a huge factor...

I'm not forgetting about anything. I'm citing the example to point out how some of you are willing to forgive one player for what amounted to a rather large mistake, and you won't forgive another player who made a couple of turnovers. You don't give him credit when he plays well but you focus in on something that he does that's bad months and years later. That makes you hypocrites.

But nice Straw Man argument...well, not really since about 90 percent here will see right through it.

Your original argument was that Manu should be given a pass because he helped the Spurs win championships, and not for the mistake that he made. If that's the position you are taking, is Jaren Jackson available?