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    We don't need no damn fence. All we need is more funding and more officers to get the job done and the 9/11 Hijackers didn't come across the border that I cover.

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    Mara Salvatrucha 13 anyone??
    And then, as Snake pointed out, there's MS-13.
    [FBI task force director Robert] Clifford said MS-13 has no ties to al Qaeda.
    http://washingtontimes.com/metro/200...5113-3615r.htm

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    We don't need no damn fence. All we need is more funding and more officers to get the job done and the 9/11 Hijackers didn't come across the border that I cover.

    The BP is simply overwhelmed. Even with more officers, they still couldn't put an end to the problem.

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    Just clarifying that the AQ linkage is bogus.

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    Who said they had ties to Al Qaeda?

    Does a murderous gang have to have ties to al Qaeda before we want them prevented from crossing the border illegally?

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    Who said they had ties to Al Qaeda?
    Xray. Try to keep up.
    Does a murderous gang have to have ties to al Qaeda before we want them prevented from crossing the border illegally?
    Build all the fences you want.

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    Just clarifying that the AQ linkage is bogus.
    Just to clarify, this is the same bogus, red-herring, type logic the left used to try and claim the Bush administration said Iraq was involved in the 9-11 attacks.

    MS-13 is a credible national security threat. It doesn't matter if they know Osama bin Laden or not.

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    Yonivore will come up with every excuse in the book. I say we put up a fence around the Statue of Liberty to keep out the Russian Mafia, all the European criminals, the Asian Gangs, and anybody else.

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    Yonivore will come up with every excuse in the book. I say we put up a fence around the Statue of Liberty to keep out the Russian Mafia, all the European criminals, the Asian Gangs, and anybody else.
    Excuse for what? What am I excusing?

    What's your solution for stopping the criminals while letting the needy through?

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    Just to clarify, this is the same bogus, red-herring, type logic the left used to try and claim the Bush administration said Iraq was involved in the 9-11 attacks.
    Just to clarify, you're a dumbass who can't read.
    MS-13 is a credible national security threat. It doesn't matter if they know Osama bin Laden or not.
    Then there's no reason for Xray to link them, is there?

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    Excuse for what? What am I excusing?

    What's your solution for stopping the criminals while letting the needy through?
    More border patrol agents and more funding. If we can spend billions on Iraq we sure as can spend billions giving the border patrol what they need.

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    More border patrol agents and more funding. If we can spend billions on Iraq we sure as can spend billions giving the border patrol what they need.
    A fence is less expensive than employing enough people to monitor the border 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    So, why not give the border patrol a fence?

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    Fences will be broken, which will costs money to repair. They will still need to be patrolled so why not give the Border Patrol what it WANTS, which is more agents.

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    Fences will be broken, which will costs money to repair. They will still need to be patrolled so why not give the Border Patrol what it WANTS, which is more agents.
    The cost will still be lower.

    , give 'em more agents too. Again, why are you opposed to a fence?

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    If the Border Patrol was allowed to perform their jobs without the intervention of every self-rightous, my cause banner carrying, loud mouth idiot jumping in, well maybe we can make some progress. Until this society sees itself for what it is and take a stand and not sway to the pressure of the loudest sreaming, then we can control the direction of OUR goverment's actions......

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    Until this society sees itself for what it is
    What is it?

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    Apparently, a good portion of them are self-rightous, my cause banner carrying, loud mouth, jumping in idiots.

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    So why would they do anything different?

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    http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/elshukrijumah.htm

    Is believed to have entered the United States of America, illegally, across the Mexican border.
    Remarks: El Shukrijumah occasionally wears a beard. He has a pronounced nose and is asthmatic. El Shukrijumah speaks English and carries a Guyanese passport, but may attempt to enter the United States with a Saudi, Canadian, or Trinidadian passport.
    Committing passport fraud to get into the U.S. is not the same thing as trying to cross the border through the desert or across the river...

    A criminal act yes... but not one a fence would have prevented.


    Has been seen in Austin area.

    You guys don't pay attention very well.

    And then, as Snake pointed out, there's MS-13.
    When did I suggest that criminals weren't a problem? I'm talking about using terrorism as a facade for building the fence.

    Not all criminals are terrorists.

    All terrorists, however, are criminals. Catch the logic?

    Anyhow, the MS-13 are from El Salvador, not Mexico. Mexican authorities are trying to weed these gangs out of the country as well. They just don't have enough (dedicated) resources to combat them.

    You and snake01 act as if Mexico is harboring them willingly.

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    You and snake01 act as if Mexico is harboring them willingly.

    Never said they were harboring them...they are simply using Mexico for one point of entry into the US.

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    the fence. Use landmines and claymores and bear traps and republicans. You know thats what you really want.

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    Fences will be CLIMBED, and therefore a waste of money. That and those nifty things called WIRE CUTTERS!!!!

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    The cost will still be lower.
    And you get what you pay for. People climb fences, cut fences, dig under fences.......

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    When people are desperate, they'll do anything.

    A fence will not stop desperate people who have nothing to eat at home, and cannot provide the basics for their families.

    Until the rest of the World develops, much as like the US, people will continue coming into this country becaus ethey have the opportunities they will never have at home.

    If it's terrorist you are worried about, build a fence accross every border, not just Mexico.

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