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Do you see the escalation this month as a coincidence then? How does your premise jibe with all of the targeting of innocent civilians in Iraq? The Jihadists are being controlled by politicos.
Instilling fear and attacking is what won the election.
Do you see the escalation this month as a coincidence then? How does your premise jibe with all of the targeting of innocent civilians in Iraq? The Jihadists are being controlled by politicos.
Good point about Bush's resolve amidst the 9/11 crisis. I just think that after he handled that so decisively and the US was clearly behind him, he decided that was carte blanche to carry out other items on his agenda that he deemed critical....and he was right.
Afghanistan was an American, united effort.
How could we have let that re-emerge.
"I voted for it, before I voted against it", as much as a cliche as it is is the "Dukakis in a tank" moment of that election.
Democrats are convinced it was fear in '04 and Willie Horton in '88, but it wasn't.
Point conceded.
Are you asking how can Afghanstan now be a problem internationally & militarily, or are you asking how it became an issue in this thread?
Internationally & Militarily? The quagmire in Iraq.
In this thread? I did it.
I think Gore would have gone after the Taliban and Al-quaida just like duyba.
He wouldn't have gone into Iraq, putting the US and the world and Israel in much more secure position now that with dubya losing Iraq.
And Gore probably would not have ed up FEMA so badly that contributed so much to killing New Orleans.
He and Dems would have actually respected the govt enough to actually make an effort to run it seriously, something the Repugs refused to do.
The Dems are responsible for letting dubya get elected and wreak his havoc and murder on the world. dubya is still fully responsible for his , but the Dems were enablers.
Where is the end to this? It didn't matter to me what either one of them said. After it became clear that bush lied us to war, it was game over for me.
I voted for it before I voted against it, stay the course. Which of these would you serve the American public?
You are new to the forum. The civility hasn't been driven out of you yet.
From the SpursTalk political forum bylaws:
Never concede a point. When faced with an argument you cannot quickly refute you have two courses of Action:
1. XRZ Method: Quickly peruse the internet for another political blog with intelligent posters arguing you side of the issue. Cut and paste their posts as you own.
2. BTNS Method: Call the other poster names, and post ridiculously long articles from obscure sites which you purport to completely legitimize your position, when in fact the article is unrelated and written by extreme partisans.
Kerry was not clear on what he was going to do about the war. I have seen nothing to suggest it would be any different now, had he been elected.
Nixon PROMISED to get Vietnam over with after it drove LBJ from office; didn't work for him
I guarantee the Katrina disaster happens under whatever administration was in place at that time. The US Government is a huge ins ution filled with insurmountable barriers to change...aka "red tape". The government is so often "responsive" and not preventative because it doesn't have eyes and ears big enough to forsee catastrophes until they occur. FEMA is better now, the FAA is better now, but I doubt anything would have been done before Katrina and before 9/11.
It's not a problem of President or Party, it's a problem of organizational structure and established policies.
I think he would. Recall, Gore has been on the right side of these middle eastern issues. He supported Gulf War I. He opposed the Iraq War when it was being undertaken and that was tantamount to political suicide.
Kerry was on the wrong side of both issues. He opposed GWI and voted for the Iraq War.
Gore would have been a great president and the Republicans recognized that and that is why the smear campaign of him in 2000 took place. So many of the things attributed to him (inventing the internet, Love Story, etc...) were set in motion by his political opponents to make him look foolish and/or dishonest. What puzzled me is the press not only did they not correct those "myths" they went on to have fun repeating them themselves.
I truly believe if Gore had won, he would have gone on to have an even more successful presidency then Clinton and he did not share Clinton's weakness of infidelity to dog him either.
Point taken you dip !
working on the article....
Gospel.
You DIMM-O-CRAP elitist revisionist a-hole, I've never read anything so stupid, ingnorant and short-sighted in my entire life!!
See, Phat Tony, that's how you respond when someone makes a pretty good point.
I still like Xray and whottttt and nascardad.
It's like early evolution revisited.
Much better than my "dip " comment. I'll have to learn how to be superiorly condesceding and cleverly insulting to keep pace in this forum... thanks for the advice you pompous, thick-headed imbecil. I've heard more compelling arguments from a 5yr old on the benefits of mass consumption of halloween candy.
Though the subject of this thread is undoubtedly aimed at the posters in this forum, I would like to comment on the general shift away from the president's position by prominent Republicans. It makes me wonder who will be the leading candidate in '08 and how their position will differ on the issue of Iraq and the general policy of pre-emptive strike. It also makes me wonder how much weight Bush has in determining congressional race outcomes. He's stumping in my neck of the woods (literally) for the second time in as many weeks because the democrat currently has the edge in a close race. And where I am, that's basically unheard of...of course the "democrat" also hates mexicans, so they're both pretty popular (sarcastic, but sadly too true).
I'll be interested to see the outcome and will keep y'all posted.
lol @ you guys.
I sometimes get out of sorts and will shoot a personal insult but that usually has more to do with the sort of day I am having on this side of the screen then personal animosity toward anyone.
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