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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    It pains me to see Kerry put his foot in his mouth yet again.. John, your time has passed be quiet and sit down.

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    No, but he's taking cheap shots at Kerry, although Kerry gave him a great opening, to deflect from the real issues in Iraq.
    SO what are the real issues in Iraq? What is the Dem's gameplan other than saying that Bush has done a bad job, or Bush lied, or no WMDs? I don't think the Dems ever focused on the real issue or have suggested a legit plan.

    I can't blame them, they were too busy focusing on Foley and the Speaker...the real issues of this election.

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    'What is the Dem's gameplan"

    What is the Repugs' gameplan?

    The Repugs are the ones in power, who will be in power until they cut-and-run in Jan 2009, who started the phony war.

    The Dems' gameplan won't be put into action even if they win both houses.

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    Oh, but it is okay for you to question his patriotism? He served.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    Proud Vietnam vet Go take a look at his career and comments regarding his career shortly after Vietnam. Oh, and note that he was dishonerably discharged until Jimmy Carter was President and granted him the honorable discharge.

    Yeah, real proud.
    He served and that is a fact that CANNOT be denied. Thanks for bashing a vietnam veteran. Yeah, you should be real proud.

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    Much ado about nothing.

    Happy Election Month, everyone!

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    SO what are the real issues in Iraq? What is the Dem's gameplan other than saying that Bush has done a bad job, or Bush lied, or no WMDs? I don't think the Dems ever focused on the real issue or have suggested a legit plan.

    I can't blame them, they were too busy focusing on Foley and the Speaker...the real issues of this election.
    Yeah, like the republicans were focusing on a blowjob? Works both ways.

    Fact is the current plan in Iraq is not working and it has taken Bush years to finally admit it. He is now asking for timelines from the Iraq government which democrats have been asking for.
    Cheesewiz it is amazing how much partisan bull can blind people.
    Yes, including myself.

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    Much ado about nothing.

    Happy Election Month, everyone!
    I concur.

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    Joe, you are wrong as two left feet. Kerry was there for about 60 days, got
    wounded about four times, once it even required a band aid. I am a veteran and
    I would tell him to his face he is a farce. He called all the rest of his baby killers
    and every other vile name he could think of as well as make so many false accusations
    this it would fill a small book. He is what he is a cheat and liar and proven himself to
    be one. He has a superior at ude as shown in the manner he talks and dresses.
    With his dark blazer and brass buttons and talks down to everyone not in his
    class.

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    At this point the Democrats don't need a gameplan other than "different from the current one".

    Though they could help themselves by trying to keep some of their figureheads from talking... like, ever.

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    He served and that is a fact that CANNOT be denied. Thanks for bashing a vietnam veteran. Yeah, you should be real proud.

    My father served in Vietnam, I wasn't bashing Vietnam Vets, I was bashing a single Vietnam vet for selling out the soldiers he was in command of, exaggerating injury's sustained on the battle field, and then further bashing our current soldiers. Don't ever ing tell me I'm bashing Vietnam Vets again, just the pieces of that returned home only to bash the very people that were putting their lives on the line so his sorry ass could have a lucrative career as a Senator. Go yourself.

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    Joe, you are wrong as two left feet. Kerry was there for about 60 days, got
    wounded about four times, once it even required a band aid. I am a veteran and
    I would tell him to his face he is a farce. He called all the rest of his baby killers
    and every other vile name he could think of as well as make so many false accusations
    this it would fill a small book. He is what he is a cheat and liar and proven himself to
    be one. He has a superior at ude as shown in the manner he talks and dresses.
    With his dark blazer and brass buttons and talks down to everyone not in his
    class.

    Thank you

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    Oh, but it is okay for you to question his patriotism? He served.

    What is it that you've done for your country lately?

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    Joe, you are wrong as two left feet. Kerry was there for about 60 days, got
    wounded about four times, once it even required a band aid. I am a veteran and
    I would tell him to his face he is a farce. He called all the rest of his baby killers
    and every other vile name he could think of as well as make so many false accusations
    this it would fill a small book. He is what he is a cheat and liar and proven himself to
    be one. He has a superior at ude as shown in the manner he talks and dresses.
    With his dark blazer and brass buttons and talks down to everyone not in his
    class.
    Well, I would never say that to a veteran since I wasn't there and you may your view from the stuff you've read against Kerry and I honestly don't fee that you'd ever give Kerry the benefit of the doubt simply because he is a Democrat and you despise him for that fact alone.
    And I understand since I could easily say that Bush is a lying, cocaine snorting, DUI driving, Vietnam service dodging, booze drinking guy but I won't go there. I respect all veterans for their service. And 60 days is 60 days longer than Bush. Wouldn't you agree?

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    Can you ing believe the ignorance from people that are supposed to be working for us? What can we do for our country?

    It's time we stormed our Bastille.

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    My father served in Vietnam, I wasn't bashing Vietnam Vets, I was bashing a single Vietnam vet for selling out the soldiers he was in command of, exaggerating injury's sustained on the battle field, and then further bashing our current soldiers. Don't ever ing tell me I'm bashing Vietnam Vets again, just the pieces of that returned home only to bash the very people that were putting their lives on the line so his sorry ass could have a lucrative career as a Senator. Go yourself.
    Well Kerry wasn't bashing every person in the military either. So go yourself too. And don't forget that many were putting their lives on the lines while Bush and Cheney enjoyed their pansy ass lives too.
    off!

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    What is it that you've done for your country lately?
    I'm retired Marine Corps and volunteer for elections, also volunteer during the holidays at Christmas under the Bridge and the Jimenez dinner. I also send care packages to our men and women in the military and had some over for Thanksgiving dinner last year.

    What about you?

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    As our beloved Commander in Chief says.."Bring it on!!"

    Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!1

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    I can't believe the Demorats are supporting Kerry again...the worst Presidential candidate in history.

    Some people never learn.

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    Simple ways Democrats could win the next election...

    Distance yourselves as far from John Kerry as humanly possible...
    Tell Michael Moore to stop supporting Wesley Clark and go back to supporting Kerry.


    Throw them both under the bus.

    Select Wesley Clark as your candidate.


    Simple strategy...Democrats regain control of the whitehouse...

    I get the guy most likely to drop a nuke on our enemies in the whitehouse...

    End of problem.

    But nooooooooooooo...instead they gonna put the traitor at the forefront of their party again...one who has even less charisma andf likeability than Bush.


    Stay with Kerry...maybe this time you can even get Jane Fonda on the ticket as VP.

    Idiots.

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    I can't believe the Demorats are supporting Kerry again...the worst Presidential candidate in history.

    Some people never learn.
    That is just your opinion and cannot be proven to be factually correct.

    I still can't believe republicans still defend Bush, DeLay, Hastert...

    Idiots!!

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    That is just your opinion and cannot be proven to be factually correct.

    I still can't believe republicans still defend Bush, DeLay, Hastert...

    It doesn't matter what you believe...you are the out of power party.

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    I can still party with all the power I need!!
    And the hunger for Power is what will be the downfall of the republicans.

    I need a margarata damnit!!

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I took a History of Vetnam class my senior year in college and my view of the war changed on the first day. We had a gentleman who knew our professor through the work he had done at the VA hospital sit in our class. Our professor invited him to audit this class he was preparing on the war and wanted John ( the vet)to offer some insight as to how things were on the ground. We were going to talk about certain battles throughtout the year that John participated in so he was there to add the nsight and perspective of these days. John served 3 tours and suffered from the most severe type ( I think there are 3 levels) of post traumatic stress disorder and that is why he lived at the VA hosptial.

    John was aksed why he served 3 tours. His repsonse? He was tired of seeing all of the new guys get killed.

    He also mentioned that he did things that he was not proud of but war brings out un-natural and animalistic survival tendancies in human beings. His guys were getting picked off from certain villages and since the villagers did not tell them who killed thier buddies they all died. He along with other soldiers ended up killing innocent villagers because they he didn't know who was shooting at him. He simply stated it was a matter of survival. It was them or us. He told us that these images stayed with him forever and he never stops thinking about them. He was not proud of what he did and saw others do but he justifies it by trying to survive .

    We went on the watch the HBO special "Letters from Vietnam" on our first day. The show had been on maybe 10 minutes and then it happened. John, who was sitting in the front of the class, got up and made a shooting gesture with a very unsettling sound.. he then dove face first on to the floor.. As I walked past the poor guy as we all exited the classroom I remember his blues eys staring at the ceiling.. he was bleeding from his forhead but he just stared....


    Some of our soldeirs did bad, horrific things but I believe the the overwhelming majority compromised their humanity in order to simply survive.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Simple ways Democrats could win the next election...

    Distance yourselves as far from John Kerry as humanly possible...
    Tell Michael Moore to stop supporting Wesley Clark and go back to supporting Kerry.


    Throw them both under the bus.

    Select Wesley Clark as your candidate.


    Simple strategy...Democrats regain control of the whitehouse...

    I get the guy most likely to drop a nuke on our enemies in the whitehouse...

    End of problem.

    But nooooooooooooo...instead they gonna put the traitor at the forefront of their party again...one who has even less charisma andf likeability than Bush.


    Stay with Kerry...maybe this time you can even get Jane Fonda on the ticket as VP.

    Idiots.


    I agree with Whott

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