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    You convinced me Elson sucked when I thought he was a decent player.

    I don't accept your apology.

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    I am just happy to see all of Manu's and Tony's hard work breaking down the defense rewarded by a big man who can actually catch the ball and wants to cram it down the opponents throat. What a difference!!

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    If I didn't think one or two bad games was enough to pronounce him terrible, I'll be damned if I'm going to think one or two good games is enough to pronounce him the savior. He's been aggressive, he isn't shuffling his feet and pump faking, he hasn't gotten hugely out of position. Woopie doo. How about a month before we give him the MVP trophy?

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    If Elson has 2 points and 2 boards tomorrow, Spurs fans are going to freak.
    That's just what I was thinking...or if they lose tonight, they'll be cursing Pop's "genius" system.

    Aside from the 12 points, 6 rebounds, and blocks, what I loved most about Elson was his energy. It was so damn nice to finally see a Center show enthusiam and excitement when he's on the floor. No pumpfaking, no fumbling, no stone cold face....just dunks and jumpshots, and good defense.

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    That's just what I was thinking...or if they lose tonight, they'll be cursing Pop's "genius" system.

    Aside from the 12 points, 6 rebounds, and blocks, what I loved most about Elson was his energy. It was so damn nice to finally see a Center show enthusiam and excitement when he's on the floor. No pumpfaking, no fumbling, no stone cold face....just dunks and jumpshots, and good defense.
    Yeah Elson played big last night. I was glad to see some agression from the center posistion. Good to see Nazir and Racho GONE!!!!!

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    There may be another thread for this one: Props to the FO and Pop for their astute judgement on players. How many posts were there about how those moves were all about money and not about improving the team at the position?

    One game does not a season make, but the man looks like a smart player who brings good athleticism and speed to the position. And no obvious bad points: like habits of triple dribbling before a dunk or hands of stone.

    He ain't gonna be Shaq or Yao, but he's gonna do fine and fit into the Spur system.

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    There may be another thread for this one: Props to the FO and Pop for their astute judgement on players. How many posts were there about how those moves were all about money and not about improving the team at the position?

    One game does not a season make, but the man looks like a smart player who brings good athleticism and speed to the position. And no obvious bad points: like habits of triple dribbling before a dunk or hands of stone.

    He ain't gonna be Shaq or Yao, but he's gonna do fine and fit into the Spur system.

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    He's pretty awesome at my NBA 07 game too, very good rebounder.

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    I'd like to take this opportunity to remind Timvp of the previously placed wager on Elson with Please_dont_ban_me.

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    I'd like to take this opportunity to remind Timvp of the previously placed wager on Elson with Please_dont_ban_me.
    You're not out of the woods yet. Eight points and six boards isn't going to be doable for Elson unless he starts and plays 25-30 minutes a night.

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    You're not out of the woods yet. Eight points and six boards isn't going to be doable for Elson unless he starts and plays 25-30 minutes a night.
    With Oberto as his primary compe ion...30 minutes a night looks pretty realistic.

    Anyways, so far so good.

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    Bump.

    Did timvp apologize too soon? To the naked eye, Elson has been pretty good so far this season when he's gotten a chance to play. But strangely enough, the coaching staff has actually been cutting back his minutes of late and Elson's indepth stats look poor.

    +/- Stats
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    Ginobili +70
    Bowen +65
    Parker +58
    Barry +52
    Horry +50
    Oberto +49
    Udrih +35
    Finley +15
    Elson -24

    After a strong start of the season, Elson has come back down to earth. He's having a tough time catching passes lately (think Nazr Mohammed-esque hands). His team defense has been poor.

    Don't get me wrong, I think he was a better signing than I thought he was but how good is he really? Does he have substance to go with his flash?

    The numbers say he's struggling. Pop said he was having some problems. Spurs fan think he's David Robinson, Jr.

    Who is right?

    Discuss.

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    It would probably help his plus/minus numbers if Pop wasn't sticking him out there with that crap lineup of Beno, Bowen, Finley, and Horry or whatever the it is he's been calling his lineup at the start of fourth quarters recently.

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    It would probably help his plus/minus numbers if Pop wasn't sticking him out there with that crap lineup of Beno, Bowen, Finley, and Horry or whatever the it is he's been calling his lineup at the start of fourth quarters recently.
    When he's in the game with the rest of the starting five, his +/- is +1 for the season.

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    When he's in the game with the rest of the starting five, his +/- is +1 for the season.

    Perhaps because no plays are called for him on offense....

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    Elson has yet to get blocked by some 6"3" guard from behind, so hold on to those Nazr comparisons for now. That used to piss me off to no end.

    I think Franky is pressing a little bit. He's blown some assignments and players and coaches have let him know, so I think he's gotten a bit tentative. I think once the system becomes second nature, he'll relax and just ball.

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    Bruno has been right since the start with Elson.

    When everybody was trashing him, Bruno was saying that he will be a decent center.

    When everybody was saying that he was great after the mavs game, Bruno was saying that it was just one game.


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    I think AHF nailed it on the head...i want to see elson play hardcore minute with parker tim bruce and manu, then we'll see whats up.

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    Bruno has been right since the start with Elson.

    When everybody was trashing him, Bruno was saying that he will be a decent center.

    When everybody was saying that he was great after the mavs game, Bruno was saying that it was just one game.

    Riding the fence worked well for Bruno.


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    Riding the fence worked well for Bruno.


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    Riding the fence worked well for Bruno.





    Btw, I'm watching Min/Den and evans is playing dreat.

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    Btw, I'm watching Min/Den and evans is playing dreat.
    It's tough for me to watch the Nuggets. I wanted the Spurs to get J.R. Smith and Reggie Evans. Smith is turning into a stud and Evans is playing better every game.


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    It's tough for me to watch the Nuggets. I wanted the Spurs to get J.R. Smith and Reggie Evans. Smith is turning into a stud and Evans is playing better every game.

    As well as Barry is plaing its still tough to watch Smith blow up. Byron Scott is a ing re .

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    It's tough for me to watch the Nuggets. I wanted the Spurs to get J.R. Smith and Reggie Evans. Smith is turning into a stud and Evans is playing better every game.

    Hey, we'd all like to have the perfect, invincible team every year, but let's be thankful for what we have--a good bunch of new guys with some vets like Finley and Horry who'll probably hit their stride before the year is out.

    This team can be very very good. Will they be challenged by some other good teams? Damn, I hope so cause who wants a cakewalk to the championship?

    I want games to be exciting with the issue in doubt until the end with the Spurs victorius.

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    Bump.

    Did timvp apologize too soon? To the naked eye, Elson has been pretty good so far this season when he's gotten a chance to play. But strangely enough, the coaching staff has actually been cutting back his minutes of late and Elson's indepth stats look poor.

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    Elson -24

    Who is right?

    Discuss.
    psssh. What are his numbers when he and Duncan are in together?

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