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    And what does any of this have to do with Barry passing up wide open threes during his shooting slump?

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    C'mon...Pop hadn't used him except as a backups backups

    This really isn't that hard to understand....I am not talking about the playoffs, I am talking about the regular season.

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    If the Spurs played everyday, then we wouldn't get to see these great debates on the off days.

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    I see what screwed TimVP and FWDT up...

    This quote right here:

    Yeah? And Brent Barry got little or no run except when the Mavs were blowing our asses off the court...which was rare.
    That was sarcasm....I guess ya'll watched a diff series though. To me it was either getting blown off the court by the Mavs or barely beating them. Never us blowing them out.


    That doesn't change the fact that it is a small sample size...

    Go ahead and but Beno and Bigg Dogg over Barry in 05...be my guest.

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    And what does any of this have to do with Barry passing up wide open threes during his shooting slump?


    Not shooting when you suck = having no balls[/Spurfan]

    Shooting like Jordan when you suck = Spurs hero 4eva

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    Not to oversimplify things, but perhaps one could argue that Horry's fall off is the ultimate difference between 2005 and 2006.

    Just a thought.
    I think that is a very safe thing to say. If Horry played like he did in 2005 in last year's run, the Spurs easily win the championship. People blame small ball but Pop tried to use Horry against the Mavs. Horry just sucked and Pop had to go somewhere else.

    Phoenix without Amare and that Heat team would have been an eaiser path than the Suns with Amare and the returning champion Pistons the year before.

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    Backups backups..during the latter half of the regular season...
    So he played poorly in the playoffs because he didn't play enough in the regular season? Got it

    All Barry would have had to have done to get a really ty +/- was to have been on the court for the early part of game 7 when the Mavs blew us the out...
    Yet, that wasn't the case.

    The funny thing is...I am not defending his play against the Mavs...but he didn't get court time during the late part of that game.
    You mean when the Spurs were playing near perfect basketball to come back from a 20 point deficit? You wanted Mr. -32 out there?

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    Bah...

    Horry sucked the first half of game 5 VS Detroit...Sucked bad.

    Horry also didn't get rested as much that season as he did his first year and last year...Horry had to play because of Duncan and Rasho being injured.

    I see nothing to indicate that over-resting him helps.

    And if Horry wasn't on the court for the final 5 minutes of playoff games like last year his career would look much different...as that is the period where just about all of his greatest moments have come.

    In 95 against us, he only scored one basket...just so happened to be the game winner.

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    So he played poorly in the playoffs because he didn't play enough in the regular season? Got it
    Pop switched his role....



    Yet, that wasn't the case.

    You mean when the Spurs were playing near perfect basketball to come back from a 20 point deficit? You wanted Mr. -32 out there?

    Might have been nice to try and get him some shots in the OT since he has never missed a big one like that yet in his Spurs career.

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    Ok TimVP...you convinced me...Barry sucked against the Mavs.

    Props


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    Ok well one of those was a close loss and the other was OT loss....

    And he choked in that OT game....I readily admit it. Passingwise.

    What is your problem?
    What is my problem? You just said Barry didn't get to play late in games. I was just pointing out that your statement was wrong. Don't get mad at me ... get mad at your Tivo.

    Did he get to do it in game 7?
    He played 17 minutes in Game 7. He was 0-for-2 with a turnover. You wanted Pop to keep going back to that dried up well?

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    Might have been nice to try and get him some shots in the OT since he has never missed a big one like that yet in his Spurs career.
    Um ... Barry missed all his shots in the Game 4 overtime. Missed that, too?

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    What is my problem? You just said Barry didn't get to play late in games. I was just pointing out that your statement was wrong. Don't get mad at me ... get mad at your Tivo.
    Actually lmao...I didn't save any of those games. I deleted all of them after that series was over and have no intention of ever watching them again.


    He played 17 minutes in Game 7. He was 0-for-2 with a turnover. You wanted Pop to keep going back to that dried up well?

    What had Brent Barry shot through the early part of that game against Phoenix?

    What had Robert Horry shot through the first 17 minutes of game 5 Detroit?

    And what were Stephen Jackson's numbers though the first 17 minutes of game 6 Nets?


    Just tell me when Barry has missed those kinds of shots...then tell me how many Finley missed in that OT.

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    Um ... Barry missed all his shots in the Game 4 overtime. Missed that, too?
    Were we eliminated after game 4?

    No we were not.

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    Actually lmao...I didn't save any of those games. I deleted all of them after that series was over and have no intention of ever watching them again.
    Did you watch them in the first place?


    Just tell me when Barry has missed those kinds of shots...then tell me how many Finley missed in that OT.
    Finley missed one shot in overtime in Game 7.

    Oops.

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    I just can't believe you wouldn't want the greatest post season 3 shooter in Spurs history getting some shots in that situation....or at least being on the court to help Duncan.

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    Did you watch them in the first place?




    Finley missed one shot in overtime in Game 7.

    Oops.

    And it was an important one wasn't it?

    I still call BS...I remember Finley going cold at the end of that game and picking up an assload of fouls.

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    Were we eliminated after game 4?

    No we were not.
    What elimination game did Barry ever hit a shot in the fourth quarter? Or the second half?

    Question.

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    I still call BS...I remember Finley going cold at the end of that game and picking up an assload of fouls.
    Finley didn't have a foul in overtime.

    Need me to send you the DVDs so you can start over in this thread?

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    What elimination game did Barry ever hit a shot in the fourth quarter? Or the second half?

    Question.

    That's too much work....

    Edit: Right now

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    Finley didn't have a foul in overtime.

    Need me to send you the DVDs so you can start over in this thread?

    If he didn't get any fouls in OT then he got an assload of them in the 4th...

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    I just can't believe you wouldn't want the greatest post season 3 shooter in Spurs history getting some shots in that situation....or at least being on the court to help Duncan.
    Hey, I'm all for the return of Devin Brown.


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    Now come on Devin never did . Except that ing choke against the Rockets.

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    How about we put a wager on this?

    Say...Chris Paul, Greg Oden and Ian Mahnimi VS Adrew Bynum?

    That I can find Barry hitting a shot in an elimination game 4th quarter or second half?

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    If he didn't get any fouls in OT then he got an assload of them in the 4th...
    I'm not going to rewatch the whole game to look for personal fouls on Michael Finley

    Who hit the shot with the Spurs down four with 1:45 to go in the fourth?

    Question.

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