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How many 3G misses are actually rebounded by the 3G's shooter?
How many 3G shooters actually crash the boards?
Didn't think so, you inbred less twerp.
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How many 3G misses are actually rebounded by the 3G's shooter?
How many 3G shooters actually crash the boards?
Didn't think so, you inbred less twerp.
Manu comes to mind as one that will chase his rebound from anywhere on the court.And how many NBA 3G shooters race in to rebound their own shot?
When a shot goes up you box out. When your player shoots the ball - you contest it and then turn to box out. If the player shoots a three you contest it and turn to see where the rebound comes to - and box out. It's really simple. You don't care what the offensive player does. If he tries to follow his shot you have position on him for the long rebound, and if he fades away you have position to get the long rebound anyway. One thing that will get you pulled from a game really fast is if a 3 pt. shooter misses long and gets his own rebound while you are darting up court.
I don't know, why don't you keep stats for a couple of games instead of talking out your ass like usual?"[/boutons]"
How many 3G misses are actually rebounded by the 3G's shooter?
How many 3G shooters actually crash the boards?
Didn't think so, you inbred less twerp.
less twerp? Grow the up.
As to who crashes the boards on their three point shot, I told you - nearly all Euros will if they're not boxed out by the defender. Damn dude, ing read.
Again, if you don't want Bowen playing fundamental basketball, why don't you write a letter to Stern about it? Granted you've never played ball in your life except maybe your PS2, but I'm sure he'll value your opinion.
Boxing out does not require sticking your foot under the person where they need to land. If he were really boxing out the guy, he would be stepping that foot sideways to cover more space and putting his arms out.
I love it. Go Zeke!
Last edited by Bob Lanier; 11-12-2006 at 03:07 PM.
Where's Karl Malone's elbow when you really need it?
If Bowen stuck his foot under every player he boxed out, you've have a guy injured every night.
Have you ever played basketball? Players aren't really conscious about where they are putting their feet. They don't sit there and go "hmm, he shot, let me just stick my foot right there..."
You're paying attention to the ball and body position. happens when you're playing someone close and they go up in the air.
I rolled my ankles probably 8-9 times in HS playing ball. All were when I was in the lane and went up and came down on someone's foot. It happens. They weren't playing dirty. You go up, you come down, and if you come down on someone's foot, you roll your ankle.
There are two variables to the 'Bowen the ankle sprainer myth' that you can't put any absolute certainty to.
First, that Bowen would somehow be clairvoyant enough to know where his man's feet were going to come down when he sets his box out (and to boot this is usually with Bowen being turned sideways).
Second, that a jump shooter is going to jump up and come down in exactly the same spot as Bowen plants his foot, when any slight change in balance by the shooter or by any contact initiated by Bowen is going to change where his feet come down.
How anyone thinks that those two variables can come together somehow consistently enough for Bowen to be maliciously going for ankle sprains on purpose is both ignorant of physics and shows that the person making those claims either has never played ball in their lives or has an agenda against Bowen.
i didn't know that somebody else said that. i'm on the blocking out perspective of this, long shots create long rebounds. if a defender has to look down and figure out where he must put his feet for the safety of his opponent, he's not going to get that long rebound. he's going to sit on the bench.Bowen has been accused by other players, most notably Vince Carter, of stepping under them when they shoot. The Spurs forward and Popovich both said they hadn't heard from the league. But NBA officials figure to take a close look at everyone's role in Saturday's incident.
i sure wish i had a list of feet that caused sprained ankles so i could put this whole thing in perspective. i don't think bruce is the ankle sprainer that he's being made out to be. this is one of those media stories that doesn't live on food or water, it lives entirely on air.
You are right. The funniest part of it was when the Knicks started having Bowen "investigated" after the Francis thing, they listed Radmanovic as a player that he injured. When did that even happen? As far as I remembered it, it was when Beno was accidentally knocked into Radmanovic two seasons ago. Bowen wasn't even involved.
Regarding VCarter, he said once that Bowen knocked him out for the season a couple years back. That didn't happen either.
--Kori
Manu has probably put more players on IR per NBA minute played than Bowen.
I was going to say that yesterday, but didn't want Manu Mafia after me
--Kori
It was Barry.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports...-4450949c.html
With 81/2 minutes left in the second quarter, Radmanovic was closing out on Brent Barry on the wing and Radmanovic’s right ankle rolled badly. He went down in a heap and as play continued, he did not make an attempt to get up.
Yeah but Barry was quoted after the game as saying Bowen made him do it. [/Isiah]
You are right. I do not watch film of every defender. Simply what the TV decides to replay.
I don't see what the big deal is from either side. Isiah was one of the toughest compe ors when he played. He did some dirty things. He took advantage of everything he could in order to win. I don't think he dislikes Bowen. I even think he respects Bowen. But, I think he feels if Bowen is playing a certain way that his players have every right to be "dirty" also. This is a guy who got hacked as hard as you can by Magic when he drove the lane. Those two kissed before games. But, they were going to do whatever it takes to win after the jumpball.
And, would you be completely surprised if Pop said something to similar about Danny Fortson or Raja Bell? I wouldn't. I just don't think you would catch so much media attention if he did.
"Murder" might have been an inappropriate word, but I don't think he meant that literally. Now, "break his ing foot," I'm sure he meant. But, that's all part of the compe ion of the game.
Look back at those Bad Boy Pistons. They were dirty. Bill Laimbeer and Rick Mahorn and Dennis Rodman and Isiah. They were dirty players. They took advantage of every little thing they could in order to win. They fought. They would swing on superstar players like Larry Bird and Charles Barkley. They didn't give a . Isiah has that same mentality now. The NBA has gone soft. Back in the 80s and before that, this wouldn't be a big deal. But, now that the NBA is a billion dollar business and players are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, the hard-nosed compe ion is taken away. You can't touch Dwyane Wade on a drive without being ejected from a game. If you look at LeBron James the wrong way, you're suspended.
Bruce Bowen plays that way. That's why I think Isiah actually does respect him. And, that's why I think Isiah had no problem with what he said about him either.
Bruce plays tough and bends the rules. Isiah played tough and bent the rules.
To me, it wasn't that Isiah was condemning Bruce. It was that he wants his players to play more like him.
Neither play against the Knicks was outside the Arc, so what are you talking about?
The replay with Crawford clearly shows him jumping forward into Bowen. How is that Bowen's problem?
You make my point for me. If this was really how Bowen always plays then more players would get hurt, but he only does it against certain players which leads to the support for it being intentional.
I know people hate Vince Carter, but it is no coincidence that Bowen did this to him the game he was scoring at will.
He only does it to Steve Francis on purpose.
Yes- because he knows he can get to him. He would never try it on Kobe.
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