Was it a foul

[jmard5]

I guess you can add that to your history lesson along with the story about the three rings you guys like to teach others about.

Don't talk about Spurs history lessons when we can also talk about the Mavs recent historic choke job.

[BeerIsGood!]

There were way too many wasted possessions throughout the 4th quarter that cost the Spurs this game. The game was pretty much even entering the 4th, and if they execute the offense and take advantage of possessions they get this win.

[jbspurs]

you're new here, huh?

The game is barely over. This was an important game between two of the best teams in the NBA in a heated rivalry.

Think that we're going to ignore this game this soon afterwards?

Did you not watch game 7 last year in the Western Conference semifinals?

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I did and your team almost choke..... YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID!!!! FINALS LOSERS!!

[RonMexico]

05-06 Season totals INCLUDING THE PLAYOFFS

FTAs taken:

Duncan - 533
Nowitzki - 598
Wade - 803

Keep in mind that Nowitzki and Wade went on to play TWELVE more games than Duncan last season because of the playoffs. Of course, in reality because the first round went six games for the Spurs and four games for the Mavs I guess you could say that Dirk only played ten more playoff games than Duncan. One other interesting bit is that in game four against the grizzlies, Dirk didn't go to the line once during the entire game.

Since you made a sarcastic remark about Dirk's FTA advantage due to last season's playoffs here's the breakdown for the WC semis.


Gm1 Duncan 7-12 Nowitzki 4-6
Gm2 Duncan 12-14 Nowitzki 7-7
Gm3 Duncan 5-8 Nowitzki 21-24
Gm4 Duncan 7-8 Nowitzki 14-15
Gm5 Duncan 10-15 Nowitzki 4-4
Gm6 Duncan 8-10 Nowitzki 8-8
Gm7 Duncan 17-23 Nowitzki 15-16

I'm sure you can add but just to save you some time, Duncan took ten more free throws in the series than did Dirk. The only reason SOME Spurs fans ed about the officiating is because Games 3/4 were the only games where Duncan wasn't sent to the line for double digit FTAs. Mavs fans could easily about Games 1,2,5 and there are some who do, but I don't think officiating decides a game so I refrain from ing although I can't deny that I'll get mad about a call here and there while watching a game. I just keep these stats out of curiosity because when I hear people make statements like the one you made (Dirk's advantage) then I have to go and check to see if it's true...and of course, it's not.


This season, Duncan and Dirk both have 110 FTAs and Wade has 149, all have played 13 games apiece.


Oh yes, I know people like to break it down and use paint/jumpers to make a distinction about the FTAs but sometimes people make that distinction only when it's advantageous to their position. I could probably make the case for Devin Harris since he drove to the paint a lot more in last year's series but I doubt he got the calls that Parker did, although I'm not certain, I'll check. Anyway, people get fouled shooting jumpers all the time when they are double-teamed as is Dirk so often. You can't assume that all these jumpers are wide open (thus less of a chance for a foul), there's no way a good defensive team like the Spurs would leave a guy like Dirk open and not guard him closely. It just doesn't seem as aggressive a foul as it does when it's in the paint...BUT, a foul is a foul is a foul.

You would also have to see the number of those fouls that were in 3 point plays (lots of Devin Harris's were - and probably Dirk's since he usually got to the line for a continuation without being touched... basically - let's just say that Nash has had 36 FTA so far this year, so Dirk does have a massive advantage - and D-Wade generally gets slammed to the floor because he can actually drive past people, not into their feet and roll his ankle).

[dirk4mvp]

Cry me a ing river.

[4001 STEREO SPUR]

I'm surprised Dirk didn't get 3 free throws.

[LEONARD]

@ this thread...

[LilMissSPURfect]

[Mavs<Spurs]

I did and your team almost choke..... YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID!!!! FINALS LOSERS!!

Reread my name

Mavs < Spurs .


For the math challenged, this means mavs less than Spurs.

If I were a mavs fan, would I say mavs less than Spurs?

I hate the mavs. I abhor Cuban, low blow, Josh Howard and Jerry Stackhouse.

My team is the Spurs. It has been since I moved here for school.
Tim Duncan is the best player in the NBA. Tim > (this means greater than for our math challenged friends) Dirk Nowinski.

When the Spurs lose, it ruins my whole week.

[ponky]

Reread my name

Mavs < Spurs .


For the math challenged, this means mavs less than Spurs.

If I were a mavs fan, would I say mavs less than Spurs?

I hate the mavs. I abhor Cuban, low blow, Josh Howard and Jerry Stackhouse.

My team is the Spurs. It has been since I moved here for school.
Tim Duncan is the best player in the NBA. Tim > (this means greater than for our math challenged friends) Dirk Nowinski.

When the Spurs lose, it ruins my whole week.

I hear you, I'm the same way, opposite side of Austin. Good luck tonight, I hope you lose to Nellie's boyz on a BTB!

[Mavs<Spurs]

I hear you, I'm the same way, opposite side of Austin. Good luck tonight, I hope you lose to Nellie's boyz on a BTB!

This wasn't to you.

Somebody accused me of being a mavs fan, no way I was going to let that insult stand. I have way too much class for that.

[ponky]

This wasn't to you.

Somebody accused me of being a mavs fan, no way I was going to let that insult stand. I have way too much class for that.

Haha, I guess that person couldn't read. What was that person thinking? Smart Mavs fans wouldn't be so stupid as to say that the Spurs were better than the Mavs considering last year's playoffs and Friday night's game. HAHA!!!

[RonMexico]

Honestly, I'm surprised Dirk didn't go to the line because the foul was obviously on Finley - kind of similar to when Nash got called for an offensive foul when Jason Terry jumped into Nash - but then the Mavs were 0-4 and the refs had to give them a win.

[bdictjames]

The first quarter brought has down..

And how could Horry miss that wide open layup?

[Obstructed_View]

Honestly, I'm surprised Dirk didn't go to the line because the foul was obviously on Finley - kind of similar to when Nash got called for an offensive foul when Jason Terry jumped into Nash - but then the Mavs were 0-4 and the refs had to give them a win.

Have you always been this stupid or did you suffer a serious head wound recently? Seems like you used to have takes that made a modi of sense. If my sarcasm filter isn't working properly than disregard this post.

[dirk4mvp]

Have you always been this stupid or did you suffer a serious head wound recently? Seems like you used to have takes that made a modi of sense. If my sarcasm filter isn't working properly than disregard this post.

He's still bitter the Suns are a fly infested pile of .