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With or without Horry, the Sonics game was never in doubt.
Think all the way back to that game yesterday.
With or without Horry, the Sonics game was never in doubt.
Biggest reach of the thread.It was awesome that Horry didn't play in the fourth quarter tonight. His defense and rebounding wouldn't have helped. Small ball rules.
Explain to me how Horry would have made a difference tonight?
Horry, Oberto or Elson probably would have made a difference.
The Spurs played Duncan + four smalls for long stretches.
SMALL BALLIt was awesome that Horry didn't play in the fourth quarter tonight. His defense and rebounding wouldn't have helped. Small ball rules.
So is Dunleavy the new Dirk or something?
Why Pop why?
Who was on him?
Was probably Barry lol....
At least with Horry in there we can still run our set D because Horry can block and alter shots.
Small Ball is never going to work against the Mavs and Warriors...because they aren't small teams lol.
The Suns are the only small running team....Mayb e the Kings, but they don't run like they used too.
Yeah, it was Barry on Dunleavy. He was horrible, just overmatched.
The decision to put Barry on Dunleavy cost us the game. Dunleavy took him into the post repeatedly for easy buckets.
SMALL BALL.
Spurs with Finley at PF : 17 min => +2 for Spurs
Spurs with Eric Williams at PF : 5 min => -2 for Spurs
Spurs with 2 true bigs : 26 min => -9 for Spurs
I don't get it. What happened to when our guards funneled the other team into our centers? Where has our freakin defense gone? Are we too old? Too fat and happy?
"Where has our freakin defense gone? "
I think Pop, with his 3 rings and dreaming about wealthy retirement when Tim quits, has mellowed and just doesn't have the energy to "Pop the whip" constantly to get the Spurs to play defense. It takes effort by Pop to elicit the defensive effort.
Pop may also figure that the Spurs have enough offense now that the high level defense he insisted on earlier (when he knew the Spurs' offense was unreliable) is no longer so necessary. But last night, when the Spurs offense is shooting 41%, the Spurs defense can't allow 49% and win.
Pop may also think he will wait until the end of the season and playoffs to raise his personal effort needed to raise the Spurs' defensive effort.
The Spurs defense is obviously not much to crow about now, eg, Spurs allowed 9 3Gs and 53% on 3Gs whereas in earlier years the Spurs 3G defense allowed the fewest 3Gs in the league. Perimeter defense sucks, paint defense sucks, etc.
Hmm... Got stats?
small ball sucks.
Barry on Dunleavy was unimaginably horrible - Pop has never been a great coach, lets be honest, letting Barry guard Dunleavy. We needed a STOP to cut into the lead. Barry on Dunleavy is the practical opposite of that. Horrible decision by Pop. Horrible.
Pop's entire offensive playbook consists of a postup, a pick and roll, and a set motion play. I guess he can keep riding Tim's coattails all the way to retirement - just like he planned from the first championship.
And how about Parker? Anytime the shotclock is running down, its a close game and hes got the ball - you guessed it, a badly timed jumpshot that doesnt go in. The only Spur player or coach doing right now is Tim Duncan and maybe Brent Barry - but mainly Tim. Sure, all the Parker lovers are going to point to his PPG, FG%, etc - but hes falling in love with that jumpshot far too much, especially at the end of games.
And on the subject of Horry, leave the man alone, he's just waiting for playoff time - if Pop will even play him.
So Spurs lost a b2b game on the road against a playoff team and it's the end of the world (Pop sucks, Spurs' D sucks...) ?
True...he was huge in the Mavs series last year...
Feeling stupid yet?True...he was huge in the Mavs series last year...
Actually, what I meant to write was "he wasn't horrible, just overmatched".
Bremt was hustling, but the Spurs needed more height on him.
Barry might hustle, but on the block, there is no hustle. Its just power, strength, and height.
So I think your original statement was correct.
Mavs 7 game series...
32 min's...5 pts, 1/4 shooting (all 3's), 9 reb's
19 min's...3 pts, 1/2 shooting, 3 reb's
11 min's...2 pts, 0/5 shooring, 4 reb's
9 min's...2 pts, 0 shots and reb's
10 min's...0 pts, 0/1 shooting, 4 reb's
17 min's...6 pts, 1/2 shooting, 4 reb's
9 min's...2 pts, 1/2 shooting, 2 reb's
4/16 shooting...he definitely needed more PT...
He should've retired before LAST season...his bag is EMPTY...
Understatement of the year.
I don't think the problem was Elson/Oberto/Horry last night all. More of an issue was Monte Ellis and Biedrins getting everything they wanted inside. Ellis made Parker look silly in the fourth, and thats a damn shame. Many people here rag on Tony's offense, which I don't think is even an issue in the least, but no one gives him for his defense which I feel has regressed to a large degree.
When Finley wasn't the power forward, Parker held Ellis to like three points or whatever. He was dominating him.
But then when the Spurs went small, Ellis had layups all day. There was no one at the rim to challenge him. I blame Parker some, but hard to blame him too much with no help at all coming his way. Imagine how many points Parker would score if he ever went up against a team with Michael Finley at power forward
Plus, it's tough to hold an Ellis down for long.
That's why Robert is my number one pick in this poll,
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54619
he is in the dog house for me this year, it will be nice if he just bow down gracefully.
Fair enough point. I'm not defending small ball. You know I hate that .When Finley wasn't the power forward, Parker held Ellis to like three points or whatever. He was dominating him.
But then when the Spurs went small, Ellis had layups all day. There was no one at the rim to challenge him. I blame Parker some, but hard to blame him too much with no help at all coming his way. Imagine how many points Parker would score if he ever went up against a team with Michael Finley at power forward
Plus, it's tough to hold an Ellis down for long.
I thought Elson played well last night when given minutes, I don't know why Pop refuses to play him more.
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