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    too bad the Spurs can't sign Pepe Sanchez. He'd be a great backup point IMO, especially if they let him play with Manu.

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    I know people are apt to completely blame Pop for not playing Beno last year over Nick (and yes, Pop acknowledged that perhaps Beno's development was hurt by not getting more time). But does anyone stop to think that if Beno was working his ass off in practice (as most backup players in the NBA need to do) that he would have been given more of a chance??

    Just a thought.
    You mean like certain other Slovenian who they got rid of this summer? Beno was ready last year, NVE got time. Beno got the message - work ethics mean , Pop will play whoever he likes.
    Solve the problem: trade Beno.

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    By all means, trade him. If he can't beat out Vaughn, he shouldn't be here.

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    You mean like certain other Slovenian who they got rid of this summer? Beno was ready last year, NVE got time. Beno got the message - work ethics mean , Pop will play whoever he likes.
    Solve the problem: trade Beno.

    No, nothing like Rasho. Rasho had a very good work ethic. He just made too much money and wasn't mobile enough in the post to warrant staying here. He was a good position defender, worked hard in practice and did his job. His talents (and price tag) just didn't fit in with what the Spurs thought they wanted to do.

    How do you know Beno was ready last year? I have never heard that Beno practiced hard, stayed late, accepted his faults, or put in the extra time. I have only heard that he's y, out of shape, etc. What have you heard differently?

    Again, I'm not saying that Pop was right by going to NVE over Beno. But I am not privy to know exactly what happens in practice (and neither are you), though there are a lot of indicators that Beno doesn't do what he needs to do in that area.

    I agree though. Trade him, he will probably flourish in the right system if he works hard. He's a good shooter (though not this year; his shot selection sucks.) and a good passer. The Spurs have been trying to trade him on and off for quite a while. Nothing has panned out.

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    at people finally realizing Beno has had like 4 good games in the NBA his entire career

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    His troubles aside, of everything in that article, this is the line I struggle with:

    But Popovich also said Udrih did a "decent job" during his rookie season and admitted the Spurs didn't really give him a chance last season after signing Nick Van Exel to be Parker's backup.

    No Sherlock. If NVE's diminished skills and poor play weren't already a ringing indictment against the Spurs for signing him in the first place, now Pop reminds everyone of the adverse affect it had on Beno's development.

    I'd be interested in seeing how far Beno would have progessed had it not been for last season's failed NVE experiment.
    Exactly. As someone stated, Pop is a selfish hard headed coach, which at times can be a good thing. But at times its also going to bite him in the ass...And this is a perfect example. There was no reason to keep putting NVE back on the floor game after game last year. It bordered on ludicrous. This is where it got him.

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    If Beno was ruined last year by Pop, why keep him now?

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    This entire board already came to the consensus that we came to summer 2005: Beno sucks.

    Trade
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    The legendary Marcus Bryant said we'd play him alot of minutes this season to build his trade value (if it was not him, my bad) and we've done step one, but it seems all we've done is scoff him in our own media (something rarely done to any other play except like malik rose) and now noone wants him.

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    Grow a pair, play defense, and toughen up you piece of crap.
    That made me laugh out loud.

    T Park, you're starting to sound like me, watch out.

    I too am tired of the whole Udrih experience. This guy must have compromising photos of Pop double teaming a Thai hooker with Don Nelson or something to that effect because any other player that's either consistently hurt or giving no effort would be on a bus to Austin right now.

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    well, Im reffering to Beno, not Tim Duncan

    be on a bus to Austin right now.
    Can't be sent to Austin...

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    Beno is the most popular spur recently

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    No, nothing like Rasho. Rasho had a very good work ethic. He just made too much money and wasn't mobile enough in the post to warrant staying here. He was a good position defender, worked hard in practice and did his job. His talents (and price tag) just didn't fit in with what the Spurs thought they wanted to do.

    How do you know Beno was ready last year? I have never heard that Beno practiced hard, stayed late, accepted his faults, or put in the extra time. I have only heard that he's y, out of shape, etc. What have you heard differently?

    Again, I'm not saying that Pop was right by going to NVE over Beno. But I am not privy to know exactly what happens in practice (and neither are you), though there are a lot of indicators that Beno doesn't do what he needs to do in that area.

    I agree though. Trade him, he will probably flourish in the right system if he works hard. He's a good shooter (though not this year; his shot selection sucks.) and a good passer. The Spurs have been trying to trade him on and off for quite a while. Nothing has panned out.
    1.Beno out of shape? Never heard that one. Injury prone is the only real adjective heard, and I was by far the greatest critic of BENO in this category.
    It is a fact...No one really knows what are Spurs really trading. Even I know that by now. Beno is not at his pretty place for a long time now. That being said somebody is being injust dealing with him. If there is morals in business, Pop would make Beno's improvement his first priority. Otherwise I do not see a championship team in San Antonio.

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    Beno was perfect statistically EVER? Dude, are you blowing Beno? Seriously, Beno's defense sucks. His work ethic has always sucked. This is not something that started wth the NBA, as I understand it his previous coaches have stated this in the past too.

    Its crazy that TP gets hate from the Manu lovers and now he's getting hate from a Beno lover on top of that. Beno shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Parker because Parker owns him in every single thing you can name.
    An article from the first season

    Hate is only for Pop, you silly-ass. Beno should be getting some treatment FOR his improvement. The guy is deteriorating worse than when he spent his splitted season in Russia and Italy. Do not give me work ethics, when Spurs are destroying a good player they drafted.

    I am not saying Beno is better than TP. I am saying TP got better cause of Beno, but Beno didn't get better cause of Pop. That is just not right.

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    I am saying TP got better cause of Beno,
    ????
    You may be somewhat right on other stuff, but this is a bit ridiculous.

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    Zeleni, how are you related to Beno?

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    Whats more is how bad that article is from a statistics (the math, not game stats) stand point. Beno has the smallest sample size and has the 2nd largest standard deviation. Not to mention those numbers are with Beno going against a 2nd unit.

    Let me put it to you this way, the math behind those numbers stands up about as well as Beno against a full court press.

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    Fact is Beno didn't even play well the second half of his rookie season. He has zero nads. It's not the Pussy Basketball Association it's the National Baskeetball Association. Poor ing Beno. He's the first player who had to sit and wait his turn and wasn't just handed opportunities. Maybe the pussy ought to talk to guys like Jermaine O'Neal. He's tweny four. He's been whinng and feeling sorry for himself for years and no doubt has plenty of Slovenian buddies telling him he's right. He's not going to change. Someday when he's 50 he and his drinking buddies will be talking about how when he was a junior he was so much better than Parker but coaches screwed him and he never got a chance. That'll be Beno's legacy.

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    Stop self promoting Sequ.

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    The World's shortest grown up !
    Stop self promoting Sequ.
    It's called the Pop Show.

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    It's called the Pop Show.

    Sorry about the whine.

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    ????
    You may be somewhat right on other stuff, but this is a bit ridiculous.
    Not that ridiculus. After a great rookie season where Beno's shooting and passing ability was shown, Beno got benched, TP got a shooting coach, while Beno never saw time in the playoffs. His third season he is left on the bench with Slomo ?? saying that he is lazy. Beno got shafted and only a coward could say that a shafted player is a bad player. Why do we not rather offer Beno some lotion against hemeroids? Man, you texans can be a primitive bunch, are you?

    Whats more is how bad that article is from a statistics (the math, not game stats) stand point. Beno has the smallest sample size and has the 2nd largest standard deviation. Not to mention those numbers are with Beno going against a 2nd unit.

    Let me put it to you this way, the math behind those numbers stands up about as well as Beno against a full court press.
    Lets see. From the table of the worst and best pointguards nine (9) players have smaller sample size. 2 of them have smaller sample size and are in front of Beno. In any other playing spot the Spur in question is quite deservingly there (Manu, Bruce, Tim, Rasho). So why not Beno?
    Beno played mostly against the second unit. That is true. That can only explain why TP never got to the top10. But that doesn't explain why Beno should be left the next season on the bench. Beno was obviously a great second PG. Who are you kidding?

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    Simple Simon..........

    Beno is not very good.

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    Beno sucks.

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    Not that ridiculus. After a great rookie season where Beno's shooting and passing ability was shown, Beno got benched, TP got a shooting coach, while Beno never saw time in the playoffs. His third season he is left on the bench with Slomo ?? saying that he is lazy. Beno got shafted and only a coward could say that a shafted player is a bad player. Why do we not rather offer Beno some lotion against hemeroids? Man, you texans can be a primitive bunch, are you?
    Uhhh, is this reffering to me? Because you know, I`m not Texan...
    I don`t understand what is here to discuss anyway. Beno did have a good rookie season. His second season wasn`t his fault really... But this season is. He had a lot of opportunities to prove himself, and he didn`t use them. Maybe Pop is a little hard on him, but not really...
    And I don`t know how anyone could have expected that Beno would get more chance than Parker who`s been on the team for a few years already and starting...
    And most people aren`t saying that he is a bad player, just that he`s got poor work ethics and that he is basically, well.... a pussy.

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