You guys talking about how Duncan's just "resting" for the playoffs need to get real. Unless he has some chronic injury like last regular season (maybe he still does?), that's incredibly bogus. Him putting in 110% effort right now as opposed to 50% will have absolutely 0 effect on how much energy he has in April.
He's not a 70 year old, he's what, 29? 30? His body is young and after 2 hours of expending his energy it doesnt take him more than 1 or 2 days max to rest up and be at 100% again.
If I were a Spurs fan I'd be pissed at the fact that he may not be pushing himself all the time. He may well kick it into high gear for the playoffs, but he could do that regardless of what he's doing now. He doesn't have to "save it".
Maybe we should stop overreacting after each regular season loss ? After each loss , people find something/somebody to blame (defense, rebounding, Pop, a player..) and say that Spurs won't win the championship.The season is good
Yeah - maybe we should just close every internet spurs site and open it when playoffs will come hm?
Again. NO FRICKIN' EFFORT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And take a look how many pathetic losses the spurs had recently, and I'm not talking just about this one loss and after this one loss. The mental problem occured something like last month.
I agree that he shouldn't wait.
I just say that I understand him.
I put vegas odds to put things in perspective : Spurs are still one of the favourite to win the championship.
Spurs are done, they should tank for Oden.
Looks like they doing that
The majority of us are pissed off for that very reason. He apparently doesn't have a chronic injury, because he's said he's healthy and he's played (when he actually tries) like he's healthy. He just puts forth minimal effort, es about the calls, and then lets the calls frazzle him and then he gives up and/or misses easy shots. That's not the kind of stuff we should see out of someone like him.
I agree. And Duncan for a long time was probably my favorite non-Maverick. Beautiful fundamentals, extremely intelligent/articulate, and just a pretty pleasant guy to listen to and watch play.
These days, though, I don't know. He's just as intelligent, just as respectful at the podium...but I get really tired of watching someone of his caliber be more talk than walk on the court, at least in the regular season.
bingo!!!! and i'm a huge TD homer but he's playing like a puss lately and it's just unacceptable. if you give me maximum effort every game i'm happy. if you continue to take up weak shots and get them shoved down your throat and want the refs to bail you out, i'm gonna call you out and Pop needs to do the same ASAP.
Ever since championship #1 the same midseason slump happens, you can go back into archives, copy everyone's complaints, paste them here, change the dates and they'll fit right in this forum with the rest of the dissatisfaction and restlessness and lethargicness and adnauseamness and all the other nesses.
there you go Bruno
55 points
21 rebs
9 assists
The Wolves frontcourt
Great inerior defense
Tim is just going through the motions right now. It's a long season. We're not even at the 1/2 way point and the playoffs start in April/May. It's a lot of basketball left to be played friends. You rather him tired himself out now so the Spurs can beat teams like Minnesota or would you have him ready and focused when the playoffs hit? It's like Shaq...the gift and the curse. Let Tony and Manu lead the team for now.
Weak shots? He's currently averaging a CAREER HIGH in FG%. If you think that's weak, perhaps we should hope for him to take more "weak" shots in the future. Personally I prefer him making almost 56% of his shots. I guess that's me. Hey, I hear Iverson is mobile these days. Maybe we should pick him up. He shoots a low percentage, but at least he's forceful with it!
Sarcasm aside, Duncan is averaging 20-10 and 2. The 20 PPG are understandable, considering Parker's evolution at the point. Duncan is getting 33.7 MPG this year, second lowest mark of his career. Another 3-4 minutes would likely see him averaging around 12 RPG, since he's actually over 10 (10.2). And the blocks? Well, guess what, guys, he's not so young anymore. He probably can't play 100% all the time, because he's thrown his body around winning... oh.... THREE CHAMPIONSHIPS for us.
Spurs fans are accusing him of only talk. Wow. He must be the greatest player in NBA history to be averaging 20-10 and 2 (not to mention 3.1 assists) just by talking. Perhaps Oscar Robertson would have slightly better numbers using only his mouth, but I'm not sure who else.
If the Spurs go on a 15 game winning streak, I bet all this talk ceases, even if Duncan's numbers decline. My guess is the fans on this board are unhappy about "losing" despite having one of the top records in the league (again) and it's not even being the all-star break yet. Might I remind you all that we're perinnially a slow-starting team? So we had our rough patch a little later than usual. Blame the TEAM, not Duncan. He's the best player on the Spurs, and without him we'd probably be a 9 seed, i.e. NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Hakeem Olajuwon that's how old Tim Duncan is!
"one of the top records in the league"
Always Fool's Gold when talking about the level the Spurs play at (at least in previous seasons). Have you looked lately? Spurs are 4th in the WC, 2Ws and 3Ls behind the Mavs. 3Ls is lot to make up on the Mavs.
The Spurs only hope is the Mavs, esp Dirk, get injuries, like their only hope last night was that the Wolves would cool off. Spurs don't take wins, they need the other team to lose.
(don't even mention the EC. 7 WC teams have won 20 games, not even one EC team has).
"Blame the TEAM"
Only Enron was at fault, not Ken Lay.
Whose TEAM is it? Tim is a non-leader vocally, and now is not leading by example. Leaders are meant to lead the group out of the woods, through adversity, to know where to go when his group is lost. Tim is as lost and unmotivated as anybody.
ty losses to lottery teams,
weak-assed wins over ty teams,
big leads blown,
big leads allowed,
out-shot,
out-hustled,
out-rebounded,
out-played.
To some of you who needs and explanation
Check out what was hakeem doing at the age of Tim Duncan.
And that's obviously because we have Tim Duncan at PF, NOT because we have Elson at the 5. Duncan's numbers are EXACTLY where they should be for his minutes, irregardless of age.
In the playoffs? Sure. You're talking about a team that's 23-10 like it's the anic going down. Were you guys such bandwagon fans in previous years when we started just above .500? Or was it okay to lose back then but not now?3Ls is lot to make up on the Mavs.
What's up with Duncan?
Sore tummy...maybe the flu?
Have mom make you soup.
oops, wrong thread.
his getting ready for tps bachelor party instead of worryin on a few reg season games....
"Duncan's numbers are EXACTLY"
Like Bruce's contribution is measured by his numbers, right?
"23-10 like it's the anic going down."
Spurs have one mortal enemy, and it's the same one that killed the Spurs last May.
Guess which team is playing consistently on a mission to be champions
and which is playing like chumps.
Guess which team and fans are having more fun and entertainment and satisfaction?
I'm having a blast, personally. I love basketball and sports, and I love watching them, not only when my team is winning.
It's a game. It's meant to be a diversion from life. It is NOT (and I know this upsets many of you) a life and death matter if the Spurs don't win. We have 3 les in the past 7 years. That's incredible. You want more? Fine. So do I. But if winning is the only way you have fun with sports... you're completely missing the point.
That's a completely different set of statements. People are spouting off on the boards that Duncan is doing nothing but talk these days. I merely pointed out that he's averaging 20-10-3 and 2 in limited minutes, which is a of a lot more than anyone else could give this franchise right now.Like Bruce's contribution is measured by his numbers, right?
I asked a friend last night (Bulls fan) what he would give for Tim Duncan right now giving his team 20-10-3 and 2 every night, and showed him this thread. He looked at me completely honestly, and said, "100 million." Yet we demand more of him instead of asking the other teammates to step up and play better.
If you are capable of playing better you do so.
Some of you crack me up.
It's like you think if Duncan quits complaining to the officials, he'll somehow become less of a player.
It's not a lot to ask. We all love what Duncan does on the court but we think he's capable of more, ESPECIALLY when it comes to his on-court at ude.
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