Bowen? You, Pop

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

i'm fine with the last play although manu would have been a better shooter. bruce was open, it was his spot, he missed.

but the real massacre happened in the 2nd half when Tim disappeared. just unbelievably cold and un-clutch. manu tried to rally us back but he got touches too late in the game.

and wth is wrong with Barry? you're open for three, you shoot it.

Tim looked bad because Pop benched Oberto and went small ball and ran the offense for Finley and Bruce. I guess when it's not broke (first half), Pop feels the need to 'fix' it for no reason

[SequSpur]

P.S.
@ Anyone who thinks the Mavs would have given Manu any kind of open look. The whole team ran to him when he got the ball. Manu isn't a player who creates three-pointers off the dribble.

I guess Pop isn't the only one who has never heard of picks or screens.

[Dr J]

The discussions about a free throw contest are off base. The Mavs would be happy to get into a free throw contest at the end of the game with almost any team in the league -- they would love to get SA to trade free throws. At my house, we were yelling for AJ to order a foul and then get the ball to Dirk or Stack to ice the game.

John

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Anyone who thinks the Mavs would have given Manu any kind of open look. The whole team ran to him when he got the ball.

What do you expect? They didn't have to worry about anyone on the court shooting a three except for Manu.

Tony? Nope.
Tim?
Bruce?
Oberto?

[Billy Cobham]

You cannot differentiate a play call from who it is run for. The two aspects are combined in whatever play is called. All coaches know this....well maybe not Popovich.

[ShoogarBear]

@ Anyone who thinks the Mavs would have given Manu any kind of open look. The whole team ran to him when he got the ball. Manu isn't a player who creates three-pointers off the dribble.

You wanna reveal to us why Oberto was in the game and Horry was on the bench?

, even suck-ass Barry should have been out there instead of Tim or maybe Parker.

[v2freak]

No, the best shot would have been a Manu three from ANYWHERE. Damn dude, quit hedging. First it was a great shot, now it's down to second behind Duncan jacking up a three

What's next? We should have run the play for Oberto, because they would never expect a three from him?

Thanks for the discussion, as one-sided as it has been.

In my first post, I discussed how Duncan, the franchise player, should be taking the important shots in the 4th. Then I defended Pop's decision to go to Bowen because that's how it played out, and that's the only way to look at it. It was a good FGA, but he missed. Done deal. To tell the truth, I'm looking for any reason to disprove all the geniuses here that think they can out-wit a COY. This is the man that has helped to bring us 3 championships. Why don't you call him up and tell him to get his ass back to the GM spot and put you as the coach, if it bothers you so much?

[Spurminator]

You wanna reveal to us why Oberto was in the game and Horry was on the bench?

, even suck-ass Barry should have been out there instead of Tim or maybe Parker.

I would have had Horry in, but Oberto was probably in for the second chance opportunity, which we almost had when he got the offensive board.

[v2freak]

I wasn't sure what happened at the end. Did he get stripped, or did he just lose the ball himself?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

In my first post, I discussed how Duncan, the franchise player, should be taking the important shots in the 4th.

See, this is where you bear out that you don't know . If Duncan was the only decent player on this team, fine. And you sound totally like Pop when you say something so ing stupid.

The problem with that argument is that we have three All-Stars: Tim, Tony, and Manu. They should ALL be carrying the load in the fourth. But Pop treats the latter two as equals to Bowen, Bonner, Beno, and all the other bench scrubs. It's ing stupid logic, and it's the reason why this will be the second straight year the Spurs don't even make it out of their own conference.

If you enjoy watching us piss away the rest of the Tim Duncan era so you can suck off whatever flavor of the day is working on a 2-17 shooting streak, so be it. But that's bull . It's not fair to the team, it's not fair to Duncan. It's not fair to the fans. But if you want to go down that road of mediocrity, fair enough.

This is pro sports, and a lot of people spend serious $$$$$$$$$$ to watch them play. And with that comes the expectation that they will leave their best on the court every night, from the players up to Popo . And right now it ain't happening, and it won't as long Pop stumbles around with his head up his ass in situations like tonight's.

To tell the truth, I'm looking for any reason to disprove all the geniuses here that think they can out-wit a COY

I don't have to, Avery is doing one of a job.

This is the man that has helped to bring us 3 championships. Why don't you call him up and tell him to get his ass back to the GM spot and put you as the coach, if it bothers you so much?

Well hey, shut down the ing forum then, because none of us will ever coach an NBA team. Seriously. Time to shut it down. Go ahead and log off and never come back. Lame logic from a lame poster.

[v2freak]

LOL

I can't believe how right you are. Every single turnover the Spurs committed is also the coach's fault! Why didn't I know this?

The superstar of the Mavs took 23 shots. They're really suffering huh? 13 game win streak vs 3 game losing streak

Why should there be people calling out Duncan, if he isn't en led to fulfill his position as team captain and franchise player in the 4th quarter?



And pardon my manners. "Thank you for the one-sided argument"





You're very welcome

[nobodi_home]

Why was Berry and Bonner on the bench for the final 12 seconds??

S T U P I D move. Another Popovich temper tantrum I suppose.

Oh my Gawd, Bonner missed a big one last night. Off to the gallows with that dude.

Typical Popovich thinking. Good show, Pop, you lose another one.

[timvp]

, even suck-ass Barry should have been out there instead of Tim.

Spurs fans, we have hit a new low. In a situation where the Spurs could have gone for two and fouled, a Spurs fans wanted Tim Duncan pulled from the game. For Brent Barry.

I have now seen it all in my Spurs fandom.

[nobodi_home]

Hey, Pop could have had Horry Orry in there to throw up an airball, no?
Hey, that's a lame argument about posters not ever coaching an NBA team. Damn, can't we make better arguments than that? Well, at least no one is blaming the refs tonight.

[Dirk41MVP]

The Best Thing About That Play Was That Duncan Held Buckner By The Arm So He Couldn't Get To Bowen And Put A Hand On His Face And Bowen Still Missed The Shot. Hahahahah, Go Back And Review The Play For All Of You That Recorded The Game!!

[v2freak]

Oh My Gosh! That Really Is Something, Isn't It!?!?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

@ Anyone who thinks the Mavs would have given Manu any kind of open look. The whole team ran to him when he got the ball. Manu isn't a player who creates three-pointers off the dribble.

I've seen him create a three for himself a couple times this year when he gets hot, he did it with that jab step, (though he missed unfortunately in yesterday's game). He doesn't insist on chucking though.

Anyway I think even with screens the defender would have denied a pass to Manu by having one guy stay on him at all times, they should have had Barry and Bonner on the floor to spread the defenses if they wanted to create a good look for Manu with screens.

In any case, it wasn't a BAD play for Bowen, since that was his shot, it was just blind, since like AHF says, Pop treats everyone but Duncan as equals!! Those Finley, Bowen, and Barry penetrations really piss me off!! But why do we keep seeing them!! they're not Tony or Manu. Finley posting up on two occasions for critical possessions!!! AGGH!!! you need ball movement from their lineup since they're jumpshooters!

Pop needed this loss to hopefully wake him up!

[sprrs]

Are you a re ? Seriously.

If it's so hard to get your one good player open offensively, how did Arenas go off for 50+ in the same week? How did TMac, the one player would even see time in our rotation from his team, score 44 points tonight?

How did DRob score 71? Wilt 100? How did Elliott hit the MDM when everyone in the building knew he was getting the rock?

I give up. All you ing idiots can have your game losing plays run for Bonner and Bowen. The idiocy of some of you stroking Pop for running a play for 2 for 17 Bowen in that situation when home court was arguably on the line is amazing.

The same staggered screen that got your precious Bowen his shot tonight would have gotten Manu his, and he had a of a lot better probability of making it that Bruce.

I love Bowen for his D and his leadership role on this team, but he shouldn't have been anywhere near the court, let alone the single, solitary, game losing option for the Spurs tonight.

Are you seriously trying to compare an ENTIRE GAME with a SINGLE POSESSION IN THE CLOSING SECONDS? Wow. I'm not denying Manu wouldn't have been a better option but there's no way Manu would have gotten as good a look as Bowen got.

Maybe if you had your way Manu would have taken a three on the baseline falling out of bounds with Dirk in his face, centimeters away from blocking the shot, just like the MDM? Pathetic.