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    What about using Scola's rights?

    That could probably e up a Barry/Beno or Barry/Bonner trade.

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    Yeah, Maggette would be the 4 in small ball and would be the best fit for the position since the Spurs let go of Devin. You play him down low and he can rebound pretty well for you.

    As far as who would get those minutes, perhaps the Spurs would play Elson and Oberto more. Or go with Horry in spurts.
    I could see that happening. You have to do the trade even if it means losing Bonner but the knock on Mags is that he's always been fragile. If he goes down (and it's likely he will) no one can fill the void he will leave. That's the only real downside. Other than that, his rebounding and his ability to get to the line will be a Godsend.

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    What about using Scola's rights?

    That could probably e up a Barry/Beno or Barry/Bonner trade.
    I don't think there's a lot of interest in Scola. If there would be, it'd be offseason when his buyout numbers are clearer.

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    Beno+Barry+our 2nd rounder this year(not the one from the Bucks)+Scola's rights for Maggette

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    I just reread the article, and damn it does read like a laundry list of Spurstalk beefs.

    Honestly, the most important portion of the article is the last few lines. If Tim Duncan regrows his balls, and starts playing at a dominant level, then the Spurs can win with this team.

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    This thread is uplifting me from the sadness of the Cowboys game.

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    I just reread the article, and damn it does read like a laundry list of Spurstalk beefs.

    Honestly, the most important portion of the article is the last few lines. If Tim Duncan regrows his balls, and starts playing at a dominant level, then the Spurs can win with this team.
    Yeah, but the Spurs are actually listening this time.

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    AFAIK we're not sure it was just Barry+Udrih. And a week won't make much difference in their value. It's not like they just materialized in the basketball-playing universe. They remain the players now they were on 12/31, as the Clippers well-know.
    I agree, the Clips aren't the idiots they once were. It's not like Beno was playing great and just now became fat, lazy, and lost his shot. And Barry will always have 1 for 11 stretches to go with the hot shooting.

    They knew what they were getting last week - a 3 point shooter to stretch the floor + a point guard with some past success who may be able to rekindle it with another club. That's exactly what they would be looking at getting now.

    The big question is was that rumored deal exactly as it appear in the Express, or maybe there was one more player/pick involved that didn't make it into print. Just because there might be rumors of that now doesn't mean that things have changed, it just might mean that it wasn't previously reported.

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    You have to do the trade even if it means losing Bonner but the knock on Mags is that he's always been fragile. If he goes down (and it's likely he will) no one can fill the void he will leave.
    True. That sucks. He's out with a sore widdle foot at the moment.

    Anyone know a list of the ailments he's had over the years?

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    What about using Scola's rights?

    That could probably e up a Barry/Beno or Barry/Bonner trade.
    They can have Scola if they want him. I'm guessing they wouldn't.

    The Clippers already have a bigman playing overseas that they can't get to come over the pond.

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    Yeah, but the Spurs are actually listening this time.
    i haven't been on the board long...but it's great that they may be listening

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    True. That sucks. He's out with a sore widdle foot at the moment.

    Anyone know a list of the ailments he's had over the years?
    To be fair, the recent "sore foot" could just be insurance before an impending deal but he has been out a lot. He's never played a complete season.

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    They can have Scola if they want him. I'm guessing they wouldn't.

    The Clippers already have a bigman playing overseas that they can't get to come over the pond.
    Why not? I hear he has only a 1/2 mil buyout. Aren't NBA teams allowed to give their oversea draft picks a max of 1/2 mil?

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    Wow, that game seems to have shaken up more than Manu.

    Very interesting.

    IF the Spurs can somehow get Maggette without giving up Bonner, then this team can beat Dallas no problem.

    Maggette Bowen Ginobili Parker Duncan beats the Mavericks no problem.

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    No team we get beats the Mavs with "no problem"

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    IF the Spurs can somehow get Maggette without giving up Bonner, then this team can beat Dallas no problem.

    Maggette Bowen Ginobili Parker Duncan beats the Mavericks no problem.
    That's a little much, but it does give an unexpected quality to the Spurs. Which they haven't had vs. the Mavs in God knows how long. We're too damn predictable.

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    True. That sucks. He's out with a sore widdle foot at the moment.

    Anyone know a list of the ailments he's had over the years?
    Off the top of my head, I don't remember any major structural damage that would hinder his career. And it's funny how going from a bad team (or a bad situation) to a good team all of sudden heals minor injuries. Derek Anderson missed even more game and when he joined the Spurs, he played 82 games.

    Again, with Chip Engelland being his personal shooting coach for years, the Spurs will know whether he's a china doll or just another Clipper who can't wait to get out of that organization.

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    what i'd like to see - popovich playing the player that's playing well and benching the player that's sucking it up. is that too much to ask? if bonner or vaughn is playing well, why not let him play? vaughn was playing alright and all of sudden he's buried on the bench udrih. bonner plays great when he gets a chance but he rides the pine while horry stinks it up. i don't get it.

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    No team we get beats the Mavs with "no problem"
    agree...it's always going to be tough with that freakish 7 footer creating matchup problems.

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    VERY far stretch but works:

    Spurs:

    Barry
    Williams
    Bonner
    Beno

    Clippers

    Maggette
    Mobley

    Indiana:

    Jax
    Sarunas
    Darrell


    Jax and Maggette to SA.

    Brent, Bonner, Sarunas, Darrell to LA.

    Mobley, Beno, Williams to Indy.

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    Off the top of my head, I don't remember any major structural damage that would hinder his career. And it's funny how going from a bad team (or a bad situation) to a good team all of sudden heals minor injuries. Derek Anderson missed even more game and when he joined the Spurs, he played 82 games.

    Again, with Chip Engelland being his personal shooting coach for years, the Spurs will know whether he's a china doll or just another Clipper who can't wait to get out of that organization.
    it wouldn't surprise me if Chip put the bug in Pop's ear about this. The only thing is that it took the Dallas lost to seriously consider the trade.

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    I think a Bonner trade would open the door pretty widely for Scola next season. It's a pretty weak FA market for bigs this summer and no immediate help would come from our draft spots.

    Depending on his asking price of course.

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    I really hope something actually comes out of this. I'm tired of waiting in anticipation for a killer trade over the last couple years and just getting dissapointed when our FO drops it.

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    it wouldn't surprise me if Chip put the bug in Pop's ear about this. The only thing is that it took the Dallas lost to seriously consider the trade.
    I'm convinced the Spurs wanted to see how the Dallas game went before making any trades.

    It is interesting Engellund worked with Maggette. That makes me feel a bit better.

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    I think a Bonner trade would open the door pretty widely for Scola next season. It's a pretty weak FA market for bigs this summer and no immediate help would come from our draft spots.

    Depending on his asking price of course.
    Yeah, I think Scola doesn't become a free agent until the summer of 2008. As long as he is under contract, it isn't looking like Tau will let him go.

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