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    And if you run out of ice, you can just put a bucket outside and fill it back up.


    My mom and I went out to lunch and when I left it was warm. When we got out of the car to eat it was FREEZING. I hate this weather.

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    You're so...so...tropical

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    You're so...so...tropical
    Now why do I picture S y saying tropical in a breathy Marilyn-esque voice?

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    Damn straight I'm tropical.

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    I think this was an interesting Discussion.

    AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BROWNSVILLE TX
    100 PM CST SAT JAN 13 2007

    .DISCUSSION...THE SHORT TERM FORECAST INDICATES PERSISTENCE FOR THIS
    AFTERNOON AND SUNDAY...WITH CLOUDY SKIES...RELATIVELY WARM
    TEMPERATURES FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR...AND LIGHT PRECIPITATION ALONG
    WITH BREEZY AFTERNOON WINDS...ALL IN ADVANCE OF AN ARCTIC FRONT
    EXPECTED ACROSS THE LOWER RIO GRANDE VALLEY ON MONDAY.

    WHILE SOME FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE BEING FORECAST FOR THE
    OVERNIGHT PERIODS OF MONDAY...TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY IN MAINLY THE
    NORTHWESTERN SECTIONS OF THE CWFA...MORE SIGNIFICANT FREEZES DO
    OCCUR IN DEEP SOUTH TEXAS FROM TIME TO TIME DURING THE WINTER
    MONTHS...AND THERE CAN BE SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES FOR VARIOUS
    AGRICULTURAL INTERESTS. UNFORTUNATELY...THESE FREEZE EVENTS ARE
    CHALLENGING TO FORECAST SINCE AN EXTREMELY COLD AIR MASS TENDS TO BE
    SHALLOW...MAKING IT HARD FOR COMPUTER MODELS TO RESOLVE THE RELEVANT
    PARAMETERS ON AN ADEQUATE SCALE...AND THESE EVENTS ARE INFREQUENT
    ENOUGH SUCH THAT GOOD FORECASTING REFERENCES AND TOOLS ARE NOT
    ROBUST.

    ONE THING IS KNOWN...AND THAT IS THAT MAJOR FREEZE EVENTS IN THE
    LOWER RIO GRANDE VALLEY HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH ARCTIC OUTBREAKS
    SUCH AS THE ONE NOW TAKING PLACE. ALSO...THERE ARE SIMILARITIES
    BETWEEN ARCTIC OUTBREAKS THAT CAN BE DESCRIBED IN A GENERAL
    SENSE...AND IT MAY BE INSTRUCTIVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CURRENT H5
    PATTERN BASED ON ANALYSIS DONE BY MCFARLAND (1976).

    THE MAIN H5 FEATURES TO BE LOOKING FOR...ACCORDING TO THE MCFARLAND
    STUDY...ARE A DEEP POLAR VORTEX OVER BAFFIN BAY...A MAJOR TROUGH
    OVER THE NORTHERN UNITED STATES WITH AN EAST-WEST TROUGH LINE...
    ZONAL FLOW SOUTH OF THE TROUGH LINE AND NORTHERLY FLOW FROM A HIGH
    AMPLITUDE RIDGE NORTH OF THE TROUGH LINE. KEY EVENTS INCLUDE THE
    BREAK OUT OF A HIGH LA UDE SURFACE HIGH AFTER THE BREAKDOWN OF THE
    OMEGA-TYPE BLOCK OVER NORTHWEST CANADA...THE SOUTHWARD MOVING
    EAST-WEST TROUGH LINE LINKING UP WITH THE DEEP LOW OVER BAFFIN
    BAY...CYCLOGENESIS IN THE BASE OF THE EAST-WEST TROUGH AS IT MOVES
    SOUTH...FOLLOWED BY ARCTIC AIR MOVING SOUTH BEHIND THE DEEPENING
    TROUGH. THE CURRENT PATTERN DOES INDEED REFLECT MANY OF THE ABOVE
    FEATURES...SO IT WILL PAY TO BE VIGILANT. THE MODELS ARE NOT
    FORECASTING A SIGNIFICANT FREEZE EVENT AT THE MOMENT...BUT WOULD NOT
    BE SURPRISED IF ACTUAL TEMPERATURES WERE SOMEWHAT LOWER THAN THOSE
    PROVIDED BY GUIDANCE.

    AN INITIAL PREPARATORY COLD AIR MASS FROM NORTH CENTRAL CANADA IS
    OVER CENTRAL AND NORTH TEXAS NOW...BUT IS PREVENTED FROM MOVING
    FARTHER SOUTH JUST YET AS THERE IS A STROM SYSTEM DEVELOPING IN THE
    SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS AHEAD OF THE BASE OF THE LONG WAVE TROUGH LINE.
    THIS STORM SYSTEM WILL NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO KICK OUT BEFORE IT IS
    OVERTAKEN BY ARCTIC AIR SPILLING OUT OF NORTHWEST CANADA. IF THE H5
    TROUGH HAD BEEN ABLE TO SWING SOUTH AND EAST A BIT MORE BEFORE BEING
    OVERTAKEN BY COLD AIR...THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BETTER CHANCE FOR A
    STRONGER ARCTIC OUTBREAK. NONETHELESS...COLD AIR IS FORECAST TO
    REACH DEEP SOUTH TEXAS MONDAY MORNING...STILL ON TRACK TO PUSH
    THROUGH THE BROWNSVILLE AREA AROUND MID DAY.

    TIME HEIGHT ANALYSIS SUGGESTS LIFTING AND MOISTURE INCREASE TO 10
    KFT WITH THE FRONT ON MONDAY...BRINGING INITIAL SHOWERS WHICH WILL
    QUICKLY TURN TO LIGHT RAIN AND DRIZZLE. THE COLD AIR WILL CREATE A
    VERY STABLE LOW LEVEL PROFILE AND A STRONG INVERSION...SO THINK
    THUNDERSTORM POTENTIAL WILL BE MINIMIZED. LOW LEVEL JET FEEDING
    TOWARD SHARP BOUNDARY OVER CENTRAL TEXAS NOW IS DEVELOPING HEAVIER
    RAIN SHOWERS...BUT QUICKER MOVING PUSH ON MONDAY WITH LIMITED UPPER
    SUPPORT SHOULD REDUCE HEAVIER RAINFALL POTENTIAL HERE BY THEN. AFTER
    FROPA...SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL STABILIZE AND BEGIN TO DECREASE
    FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY. A WEDGE OF COLD AIR AT THE BASE OF THE
    INVERSION CENTERED AROUND 950 MB OR 2000 FT...OR JUST A BIT LOWER...
    WILL CREATE THE POSSIBILITY OF A WINTRY MIX...SLEET OR ICE PELLETS
    AND HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN THE ZONE WORDING. WILL REASSESS POTENTIAL
    FOR WINTER WEATHER WATCH TONIGHT AND TOMORROW BEFORE ISSUING ANY OF
    THOSE PRODUCTS.

    WILL LEAN TOWARD THE NAM FOR SHORT TERM TEMPERATURES...SINCE THESE
    SEEM TO REFLECT THINGS BETTER. TEMPERATURES WILL THEREFORE BE
    DECREASING ACROSS THE NORTHERN COUNTIES VERY EARLY MONDAY MORNING.
    AFTER ABOUT WEDNESDAY WILL BLEND THE GFS BACK INTO THE GRIDS.

    LOCAL CONDITIONS SHOULD BEGIN TO MODIFY BY AROUND THURSDAY AS HIGH
    PRESSURE INFILTRATION ENDS. NEXT COLD FRONT EXPECTED A WEEK FROM
    TODAY AS MORE COLD AIR DESCENDS FROM CANADA.
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    Man thats a long discussion. Thats a pretty interesting read though - for weather geeks - because it gives a good background on how the situation sets up on a large and nearly global scale.

    Its true that if the low wasn't developing in the southwest we'd be freezing our asses off right now and we also wouldn't have the ice.

    Anyhow, because the tempature is going to be hovering so close to the freezing point starting tomorrow and probably all of Monday, different parts of town will see different conditions. This is a pretty cool page to find a weather station near you to see what the conditions are like. 2-3 degrees will be a big difference in conditions over the next few days.

    http://www.wunderground.com/stationm...ic=1&wmo=99999

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    And if you run out of ice, you can just put a bucket outside and fill it back up.
    Ha ha, nice. Man vs. wild, Dallas ice storm edition...

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    Ha ha, nice. Man vs. wild, Dallas ice storm edition...


    With a foreman grill? Ha!

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    With a foreman grill? Ha!
    Okay, you got a point... And I won't have to gather downed limbs for a shelter, either. But besides that, it's all the same...

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    Okay, you got a point... And I won't have to gather downed limbs for a shelter, either. But besides that, it's all the same...
    With the exception of the roof, four walls, R-25 insulation, central heat, soft bed....yea, I can see the similarities between you and the Frog.

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    I got a tent. Who wants to go camping?

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    Well, looking over the model runs for the NAM, on early Tuesday morning it shows the 5000 ft layer to be below freezing and a good amount of precipitation happening here. I believe that would indicate snow, but I'm not completely sure. We'll see when the next discussion comes out.

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    Well, looking over the model runs for the NAM, on early Tuesday morning it shows the 5000 ft layer to be below freezing and a good amount of precipitation happening here. I believe that would indicate snow, but I'm not completely sure. We'll see when the next discussion comes out.
    So that means you aren't coming out of your house at all until about Friday?

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    Yeah I don't know, but I hate going out when its this cold. I went out today when it was still warm, and by the time I got back I was close to being dead. If we get all the ice and snow, I'll have to go out to take pictures and what not, but otherwise I'm going to curl up in a blanket with coffee/soup.

    I hate the cold.

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    Well, they haven't put up the new discussion yet, but they have the new forcasts up. Snow/Sleet Monday night/Tuesday morning is what they are calling for. Probably turning from Snow to rain on Tuesday.

    They show the low tonight (sunday night) as 33 with heavy rain, so I think there is a decent chance of ice tonight as well.

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    I just want to know what happened to all the global warming articles that were out two weeks ago? I guess they shut the up now the nation is freezing

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    This weather is GREAT!!!!

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    Some tree limbs are starting to sag here in Plano. Several overpasses throughout DFW already closed. Let the fun begin...

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    So that means you aren't coming out of your house at all until about Friday?
    Manny is going into hibernation.

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    I hate the cold too, lucky for me it's 70 degrees These rough winters are a

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    Wow! According to the last NAM run, we'd be under freezing all day Tuesday and maybe Wednesday as well. That gives a huge window for snowfall and ac ulation. Also, if there is a widespread snow event the way there was on Christmas 2 years ago, the snow itself will act as a device to keep the air near the surface colder. This will be an interesting 48 hours.

    Tonight may see freezing rain, but I kinda doubt it. I think tomorrow night is the real deal though.

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    I just want to know what happened to all the global warming articles that were out two weeks ago? I guess they shut the up now the nation is freezing

    Ah, the typical knee-jerk "look, we got three days of cold weather so let's ignore the trends of the last fifty years" response. Congrats on not seeing the forest for the trees.

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    Damn, power was out for about three hours today.

    Manny, FWIW, they were talking here about the air up above 3000 feet being in the 50+ degree range, which was precluding the snow.

    We're getting freezing rain here right now. Hope I get a snow/ice day tomorrow

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    Ah, the typical knee-jerk "look, we got three days of cold weather so let's ignore the trends of the last fifty years" response. Congrats on not seeing the forest for the trees.
    Kinda like last year's bull about all the hurricanes being caused by global warming and then we didn't have any serious hurricanes this year stuff, huh?

    I can see the trees just fine. They're frozen over though

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    Wow! According to the last NAM run, we'd be under freezing all day Tuesday and maybe Wednesday as well. That gives a huge window for snowfall and ac ulation. Also, if there is a widespread snow event the way there was on Christmas 2 years ago, the snow itself will act as a device to keep the air near the surface colder. This will be an interesting 48 hours.

    Tonight may see freezing rain, but I kinda doubt it. I think tomorrow night is the real deal though.
    How far south could snowfall reach? Corpus maybe?

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