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    That's called trying to save your job. The only way Mike Iavaroni isn't the coach next year is if the Raptors by some miracle make the playoffs AND Sam Mitc kisses azz.

    And why not post the link to where Pop said Rasho was the second best center in the league and how he loved him. Shouldn't be too hard to find. I think it was the day before the Spurs traded for Nazr
    No- it's called the fact Sam Mitc really likes Rasho and appreciates the kind of player and person that he is. A coach would have no reason to kiss Rasho's ass. The Raptors organization, coaches, players, and media actually like Rasho very much. The hard work he puts in, his humility, and his concern about helping the team in any way he can are valued.

    You and I both know that the Nazr trade had nothing to do with Rasho and everything to do with Malik Rose and his contract. If the Spurs did not want Rasho, they would not have turned down the trade that New York actually wanted-- Nazr for Rasho. They also turned down Malik and Rasho for Nazr and Kurt Thomas- so in essence they turned down Rasho for Kurt Thomas that day, as well. So TRY AGAIN.

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    They are off to a better start than both 2003 and 1999.

    Try again.
    No- if you are trying to evaluate the impact that a specific player had on a team, you need to compare this team without him to the one which had the most same number of players and that would be last year. If you actually think that this team looks as good as the team did last year at this time, then you are not watching the same team that I've seen.

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    You and I both know that the Nazr trade had nothing to do with Rasho and everything to do with Malik Rose and his contract. If the Spurs did not want Rasho, they would not have turned down the trade that New York actually wanted-- Nazr for Rasho. They also turned down Malik and Rasho for Nazr and Kurt Thomas- so in essence they turned down Rasho for Kurt Thomas that day, as well. So TRY AGAIN.
    That had more to do with not wanting to turnover the entire front court at one time rather than a love of Rasho. Kind of like hte Barry/Beno for Magette deal this year.

    Kurt Thomas >>>>>>>> Rasho.

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    But the front office is full of idiots as evidenced by the Rasho trade, so they must have also been idiots for NOT doing to Rasho/Thomas trade.

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    Spurs Record 26-11
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    No one is comparing the Spurs and the Raptors (although the Raptors do have one of the BEST back-up point guards in the NBA.)

    The comparison is this year's Spurs with last year's Spurs.

    Last season after 37 games 28-9 and that was with an injured Tim Duncan.

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    Eh, the reality is that no one really cares Ploto. Rasho is not missed here because Rasho was not a piece that was needed for this team to win the le.

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    No one is comparing the Spurs and the Raptors (although the Raptors do have one of the BEST back-up point guards in the NBA.)

    The comparison is this year's Spurs with last year's Spurs.

    Last season after 37 games 28-9 and that was with an injured Tim Duncan.
    Wait, so your argument is that we've currently won two less games without Rasho? Weak.

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    without getting into details, rasho and nazr were mountains better than the current the spurs have signed or traded for within the last 9 months.

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    Nope.

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    Rasho blows.

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    Lame

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    But the front office is full of idiots as evidenced by the Rasho trade, so they must have also been idiots for NOT doing to Rasho/Thomas trade.
    Show me where I called them idiots. I have never said that.

    This thread was about Nazr losing his starting job- something that happens to him every team he goes to. Other people came in and started to insult Rasho when they have no clue what has even happened with him this season or what he has meant to the Raptors. They do not want to admit that some other team could value him and appreciate what he does for them. The Raptors sought out the trade for Rasho. They wanted him specifically and it has worked out well for them. I said the day the trade was made that it was a win-win trade-- both sides got what they wanted. Spurs fans like Bonner and the Spurs will gladly cut their payroll at the end of the season. Well, guess what-- the Raptors are very happy they made the trade, as well. Rasho has been an important part of a team that is trying very hard to turn things around. It is not necessary for people to make snide remarks about sincere compliments that are made about him. Sam Mitc really likes Rasho alot. Why should that be so hard to believe?

    And when you look at how some of the big prize free agent big men from the summer have done, it makes Bryan look even smarter-- Would you rather have the Nazr or Przbylla of this season for 5 seasons or the Rasho of this season for 3? Seems to me that the deal for Rasho was actually one of the better deals a team made this summer who was desperate for a center.

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    Wait, so your argument is that we've currently won two less games without Rasho? Weak.
    AND with a fully healthy Tim.

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    AND with a fully healthy Tim.
    Still weak.

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    Would you rather have the Nazr or Przbylla of this season for 5 seasons or the Rasho of this season for 3?
    If you can link to where you predicted Troy Murphy tap dancing on Joel's crotch, I'd love to see it.

    Rasho is a limited, overpaid player. There will always be pressure to dump his salary because he's simply not worth it. No amount of Nazr hate is going to change that.

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    Eh, the reality is that no one really cares Ploto. Rasho is not missed here because Rasho was not a piece that was needed for this team to win the le.
    If no one cares then why did people turn a thread about Nazr into a thread about Rasho? I was not the first or even the second or third person to mention Rasho in this thread. Actually, I was the eleventh. I only responded to what other people were saying about him.

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    If no one cares then why did people turn a thread about Nazr into a thread about Rasho?
    Because you are his agent or his mom or whatever and everything you have ever posted is about Rasho in some way.

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    INo amount of Nazr hate is going to change that.
    Again, I don't hate Nazr. Never have. I just know that he loses his starting job on every team he goes to and it happened again. No offense but are that many people really all that surprised that it happened again.

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    No one is suprised.

    He's not a Spur anymore.

    Huzzah.

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    Again, I don't hate Nazr. Never have. I just know that he loses his starting job on every team he goes to and it happened again. No offense but are that many people really all that surprised that it happened again.
    No offense? Why would we offended? We were glad to see him go.

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    No offense? Why would we offended? We were glad to see him go.
    See, that is the kind of reply I expected-- Spurs fans saying how right they were about Nazr. I thought it would make them happy because they want all ex-Spurs players to do horribly once they are gone. I am just sorry that Rasho has not been able to do the same for you. Although you should be happy tomorrow when the Raptors get killed by Dallas and Rasho doesn't play much.

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    I'm happy we're not the ones overpaying Rasho anymore.

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    I'm happy we're not the ones overpaying Rasho anymore.
    I am sorry- I was not aware that you own part of the team.

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    Overpaying means not being able to sign other players. Don't be stupid.

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