Reasonable trade ideas

[FirebatMIV]

It's ignorant to look for a magic bullet to solve all of our problems.

But the fact is, Maggette addresses all of them but backup PG:

* Younger, athletic perimeter player who can be groomed as the Bowen replacement and help out on the wing

* Rebounding problems. Maggette's one of the best rebounding guards in the league, and would be #2 in rebounds on our team the moment he joined the roster

* Late in games can get into the lane and get to the FT line. And when he gets there he's a very good shooter

* Has some swagger. Let's face it. Our geriatric perimeter players don't bring any to this squad, Maggette's got some of that fire for the game that we used to see in Buckets.


The failure of this front office to address the perimeter with something other than senior citizen retreads on the down sloap of their careers is the greatest failure of this front office for what is now the third season running.

I agree on the 2nd one, but I think the other three are all examples of "the grass is greener" syndrome. Maggette is by all accounts a horrible perimeter defender. His footwork, focus and defensive instincts are just flat out terrible, not to mention his questionable work ethic. He is a nice option to have out there in crunch time, but our 4th quarter lineup already consists of Tony, Tim, Manu, Bruce and which ever center we wish to have. I don't think maggette does anything to improve that lineup. The only way we can integrate him into the crunch time lineup would be to play small ball, and I think that is the exact opposite of what this team needs - which is defensive toughness on the perimeter and in the paint.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Oberto+Williams+Barry+Beno+2 2nd rounders for Gerald Wallace and Sean May, then sign Will Conroy.
C DUNCAN/ELSON/BUTLER
PF MAY/BONNER/HORRY
SF WALLACE/BOWEN/WHITE
SG MANU/FINLEY
PG TONY/CONROY/VAUGHN

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Oberto+Williams+Barry+Beno+2nd rounder for Gerald Wallace and Sean May, then sign Will Conroy.

I'm sure the Bobcats can't wait to jump all over that trade.

[Kori Ellis]

Oberto+Williams+Barry+Beno+2nd rounder for Gerald Wallace and Sean May, then sign Will Conroy.
C DUNCAN/ELSON/BUTLER
PF MAY/BONNER/HORRY
SF WALLACE/BOWEN/WHITE
SG MANU/FINLEY
PG TONY/CONROY/VAUGHN

Why would the Bobcats do it?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I'm sure the Bobcats can't wait to jump all over that trade.

I know.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Why would the Bobcats do it?

I have no idea. I'm desperate.

[SoCal Lakeshow]

I have no idea. I'm desperate.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

j/k

[FirebatMIV]

I'm usually not one for fantasy trades, but heh, here is one anyways.

http://www2.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/
Trade ID: 3604213

[SoCal Lakeshow]

j/k

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

[gameFACE]

I like the idea of SJAX back in a Spurs uniform but i'm not sure if his remaining contract would be considered "reasonable". Three years after this one at approximately $7mil/yr.

Granger is more likely.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Maggette is by all accounts a horrible perimeter defender. His footwork, focus and defensive instincts are just flat out terrible, not to mention his questionable work ethic.

People said the same thing about Stephen Jackson and Glenn Robinson. Both left here with rings. 'Nuff said.

He is a nice option to have out there in crunch time, but our 4th quarter lineup already consists of Tony, Tim, Manu, Bruce and which ever center we wish to have. I don't think maggette does anything to improve that lineup. The only way we can integrate him into the crunch time lineup would be to play small ball, and I think that is the exact opposite of what this team needs - which is defensive toughness on the perimeter and in the paint.

Whether or not you feel it's the exact opposite of what this team needs, it's what Pop thinks it needs. So if he's going to play small ball, he needs to have the personnel for it. Maggette goes farther to fitting into that model than what we currently have out there.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I like the idea of SJAX back in a Spurs uniform but i'm not sure if his remaining contract would be considered "reasonable". Three years after this one at approximately $7mil/yr.

Granger is more likely.

Yeah, Indy is just bucking to trade one of their best players who happens to be on a rookie contract for our discards

Granger would cost you Manu or Tony. Come on people, at least apply some reality to your trade scenarios.

[FirebatMIV]

People said the same thing about Stephen Jackson and Glenn Robinson. Both left here with rings. 'Nuff said.



Whether or not you feel it's the exact opposite of what this team needs, it's what Pop thinks it needs. So if he's going to play small ball, he needs to have the personnel for it. Maggette goes farther to fitting into that model than what we currently have out there.

Posts like this makes me sad, for I know it's pretty much true.

Pop won't abandon small ball until a player calls him out on it. It's times like these that I wish Tim would just get up and say "hey, I need some help in the paint so stop sending out the midgets."

Like I said, I would have done the B+B+1st rd for Maggette trade, but I don't think it would help us all that much. I am angry that it looks like the Spurs got beat to another trade, but I'm not too broken-hearted about losing Maggette, if that makes any sense.

[wildbill2u]

I notice most of the trades proposed are with West teams, probably cause we see more of them and know them better. So far, none of the trades make me drool at the mouth. But what about the East?

Lots of teams there that will be at the top of the draft heap and picking up talent at high draft picks with high prices. Maybe some of them would be willing to trade someone off in preparation for the money room needed to sign a lottery pick.

Atlanta has a bunch of talented forwards. Could we package something for one of them? They are going to have another lottery pick and will have to pay out some big money for it like they did with Marvin Williams.

Sixers are obviously cleaning house to get into the lottery. Maybe they would like a short expiring or cheap contract or two to go with their lottery prospect dreams. Anyone there.?

Charlotte? Boston? N. Orleans?

[VaSpursFan]

Whether or not you feel it's the exact opposite of what this team needs, it's what Pop thinks it needs. So if he's going to play small ball, he needs to have the personnel for it. Maggette goes farther to fitting into that model than what we currently have out there.

exactly. we know pop isn't going away from small ball. we've seen that crap in every game this year even when there were no health issues. bowen simply can't rebound in the low post, he's too frail. if we have to sacrafice lockdown d and focus on boards off of misses, so be it. but we cannot continue to get play lock down d, get stops and then give up the offensive rebound. the defensive effort was in vain.

dallas is a capapble defensive team, not as good as us, but they rebound the ball well and that's what it takes to be effective in late game situations. i don't know how many games i watched where we gave up key offensive and defensive rebounds...

[Mr. Body]

People said the same thing about Stephen Jackson and Glenn Robinson. Both left here with rings. 'Nuff said.

Because Glenn Robinson was a huuuuuuu-uuuuge part of that championshpi. Give us a break.

[FirebatMIV]

I notice most of the trades proposed are with West teams, probably cause we see more of them and know them better. So far, none of the trades make me drool at the mouth. But what about the East?

Lots of teams there that will be at the top of the draft heap and picking up talent at high draft picks with high prices. Maybe some of them would be willing to trade someone off in preparation for the money room needed to sign a lottery pick.

Atlanta has a bunch of talented forwards. Could we package something for one of them? They are going to have another lottery pick and will have to pay out some big money for it like they did with Marvin Williams.

Sixers are obviously cleaning house to get into the lottery. Maybe they would like a short expiring or cheap contract or two to go with their lottery prospect dreams. Anyone there.?

Charlotte? Boston? N. Orleans?

One guy I really like is Boston's Delonte West. He's big enough and good enough defensively to guard 1s or 2s, and he's a good shooter, an unselfish player and someone that's generally good under pressure. He's also out of place in Boston, where they already have Rojan Rondo and Sebastian Telfair fighting for PT at PG and guys like Tony Allen (or at least, they will next year), Paul Pierce and Gerald Greene for the 2 guard spot. I think if we give them a conditional 2008 pick and something else, we can probably get West.

[gameFACE]

Granger would cost you Manu or Tony.

And you're asking people to apply reality.........................?

[Mr. Body]

Granger wouldn't cost as much as that, but we don't have what it would take. A guy like Jarrett Jack or Josh Childress would do it.

I'm sure the Pacers would look at Tinsley+Granger for Parker.

[VaSpursFan]

One guy I really like is Boston's Delonte West. He's big enough and good enough defensively to guard 1s or 2s, and he's a good shooter, an unselfish player and someone that's generally good under pressure. He's also out of place in Boston, where they already have Rojan Rondo and Sebastian Telfair fighting for PT at PG and guys like Tony Allen (or at least, they will next year), Paul Pierce and Gerald Greene for the 2 guard spot. I think if we give them a conditional 2008 pick and something else, we can probably get West.

delonte would be a solid back up to tony. i like that kid. he can pass, rebound and hit the occasional 3. his numbers are down this year but that would be a major coup if we could pull that off.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Duncan straight up, for Dwight Howard. My buddy mentioned this and I thought I'd put it out there.

[Mr. Body]

Duncan straight up, for Dwight Howard. My buddy mentioned this and I thought I'd put it out there.

Orlando wouldn't do it.

[BeerIsGood!]

Forget trades - if we lose every game for the rest of this year we can be in a position to land either Oden or Durant.


Tank it now. Rest Manu, TP, and TD on IR and gear up for a two year Championship run with a young gun coming in.