I hear Nellie absolutely LOVES Barnes. His unexpected contribution explosion made Dunleavy expendable. Nice thought, but there's no way Nellie let's him go.
Regarding Golden State having too many swingmen. Unfortunately, our most tradeable commodity is Barry who is more of the same except for his outside shot and "experience". Bonner is hurt and Beno is Beno, I don't know if we got anything the Warriors would want for any of their small forwards. (Would you offer up Bruce?)
There's talk that they are going to buyout Stephen Jackson. So he'd be on the open market. But if they don't do that, then I would think they'd trade Barnes, because he'd be the odd man out, and he doesn't make much. It wouldn't take anything significant to get him.
He'd help with younger legs, defense, and athleticism off the bench as a backup swingman. But obviously he wouldn't fix the backup pg troubles or lack of a decent center. Sometimes I think the Spurs should upgrade their bigs before upgrading at the swingspots. I'm not sure.
to pick him up if bought out, we would have to waive someone which means a James White likely.
Does Nellie have any great affection for Finley since they were together in Dallas? It would seem the buy out would be our best shot at getting Jax, because a three way would be hard to swing.
Why would you waive James White (who is a project for next year) when you have a scrub like Erik Williams riding the pine? No, they waive Erik Williams way before they waive White.
I feel you.
In an ideal world Spurs would get a back-up PG, a long 3 and another inside threat. Problem is they'll have to chose IF they decide to make a trade and I'm not sure one single change could make a major difference. that's why the only solution could be to live or with the current roster.
Barnes is on record as stating he's prefer to stay on the West Coast. Obviously, he'd prefer to stay with G.S. too - but I guess you can't have everything. I've already read rumblings about him claiming that now that he's having a breakout year, he'll be looking for a BIG PAYDAY (can't blame him there)
All that said, my question is do you think he'll even consider coming here - assuming he's the odd man out?
If not, I'd prefer Jackson because I'm sure he'd want to come back to S.A.
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlot...s/16504735.htm
Bickerstaff confirmed to the Observer that he talked to the Los Angeles Clippers about Corey Maggette's availability, but there didn't seem to be a match.
Bickerstaff asked if the Clippers were interested in the first-round pick the Toronto Raptors owe the Bobcats.
The Clippers indicated they'd also want another small forward, and that seemed like too high a price.
The Raptors pick is a quite good pick (top 15 protected in the 2007 Draft, top 14 protected in the 2008 Draft, and unprotected in the 2009 Draft). Clippers asks a lot for Maggette, I'm not sure that Clipper were ready to do Barry+Udrih+Spurs' late 1st for Maggette.
Great job Spurs organisation.
with the loss of murphy,the warriors dont have too many big guys outside of beidrins and foyle. we might wanna ship scola's rights and someone else,like williams, for someone like beno
I think Golden State is talking to the Pistons about getting Nazr.
Neverending story :
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister...le_1553113.php
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
ART THOMPSON III
The Orange County Register
SIXTH BEST
Corey Maggette for sixth man of the year?
The Clippers’ swingman is not campaigning but his play off the bench has made him a viable candidate. Maggette is averaging 15.5 points.
Only Chicago’s Ben Gordon, at 21.3 points per game, has attained similar numbers, while performing primarily for his team’s second unit.
“I said from the beginning that could happen, when you have a guy like Corey coming off the bench, with his explosion and being able to take advantage of favorable matchups every night, that he could be very productive,’’ Dunleavy said.
Maggette has not entirely warmed to this role, which is why, through his agent Rob Pelinka, Maggette lobbied the Clippers to trade him. But although the Clippers contacted a number of teams, at Pelinka’s behest, Dunleavy has been reluctant to do make a trade, cognizant of what Maggette can do on the offensive end.
“He’s a high-energy guy that gives you a big boost,’’ Dunleavy said.
The league’s sixth man of the year award was an incentive that Dunleavy thought would get Maggette to readily accept coming off the bench.
“Any award you get from the NBA is a great accomplishment,’’ Maggette said. “But at the end of each day, I’m just striving to be the best player that I can.’’
ANOTHER NO-TRADE
Dunleavy dismissed as nonsense the latest trade rumor regarding Maggette. This one is a three-way deal involving the Clippers, Miami Heat and Philadelphia 76ers. It has Maggette going to the Heat, Miami trading forward James Posey and his expiring contract to the 76ers, with the Clippers receiving Philadelphia’s long-range shooting specialist Kyle Korver, who has Southern California roots.
It is no secret Miami has dangled Posey as trade bait. They tried to entice the Clippers into a Maggette for Posey trade earlier this season, but the Clippers declined.
Philadelphia trading Korver would be a shock. The 76ers signed him to a contract extension last summer.
It is likely, although not entirely certain, that the Clippers will let the Feb.22 trade deadline come and go.
“We threw our line in the water early and did not get any responses, at least none that were of any interest to us,’’ Dunleavy said.
paper clips want to much for maggs...so they're stuck with each other. they're winning now so it's not as tense. if they go on a losing streak before the deadline, maybe they'll get desperate and move him. but i still think the spurs offer won't be good enough.
i like the idea of matt barnes in a spurs uni...but i don't think nellie let's him go with S. Jax headed to the big house
That Phila-Miami-LAC trade would be nice, but the Sixers need something more than an expiring.
Clippers doing the right thing by them; their best move was in not making one.
I watched the Clippers game last night and Maggette didn't play in the third at all and didn't play too much period. He wasn't hurt, just didn't play. He played some fourth quarter minutes, but when he was in, he didn't look interested at all.
To be fair, Milwaukee wasn't terribly compe ive in that game.
That said, Maggette is hardly the cure-all panacea some people on this board make him out to be. If you look at the maligned '2008 Plan', you see how much money can be cleared under the cap to run at multiple free agents/take on salary, and Maggette junks up a lot of that space.
Not saying I wouldn't want him, but he only does one thing on the court well -- drive, get fouled, and go to the line, though his rebounding obviously helps. We need a multi-faceted wingman who can defend.
Last edited by Mr. Body; 01-24-2007 at 11:20 AM.
I agree with you. I'd rather have an athletic big man or long 3 and a dependable backup point before getting Maggette. I think Maggette gives the Spurs some good things, but not exactly what this team needs.
Thought I would let people know that he may be heading to jail long before the season is even over.
When Jackson, acquired by Golden State from the Indiana Pacers last week, appears in a Rochester Hills, Mich. courtroom on Friday, there is a chance that he could be immediately incarcerated for 93 days.
Even worse, if he's convicted of the three charges he faces in Indianapolis stemming from an early-morning Oct. 6 incident at an establishment called Club Rio, Jackson faces up to five more years of imprisonment.
"I worry about what I can control," Jackson said. "And the only thing I can control right now is living my life the right way and playing basketball."
Jackson's court appearance this week deals with the probation he's served since pleading no contest in September 2005 to misdemeanor assault charges from the infamous brawl between the Pacers and the Detroit Pistons in November 2004. Jackson went into the crowd after teammate Ron Artest and
become involved in a melee with fans...
Even though the criminal recklessness charge is a "D" class felony -- the lowest of four types in Indiana law it carries with it a sentence of six months to three years in prison. The additional misdemeanor charges he faces of battery and disorderly conduct can lead to up to a year each.
A conviction for a violent felony results in a minimum 10-game suspension by the NBA and it could leave the door open for the Warriors to try and void Jackson's contract.
LINK
I am open to the spurs getting help from where ever but it iz still upto POP to loosen up the reigns....I read somewhere that the SPURS might have exactly what they need as far as a 3 with ung legs and they got rebounders overseas and yet we are still here bickering about trades....
mssg to POP
"LET THEM PLAY" LET THEM PLAY!
i say stop calling plays on every possession and have the SPURS RUN and GUN more... who knows maybe that is the problem...they are so predictable....
I prefer watching TIM attempting an ALLEY oop rather than him holding the ball and Surveying !!! just go TIM!!!
GO!
If the Clips are considering VCarter, I doubt they are giving a second thought to Beno/Barry.
muah, goodbye Maggette
Aren't Al Harrington and Maggette comparible players?
What purpose does this serve? Other than unloading Dunleave. Maggette > Dunleavey, but you just gave up alot to get Dunleavy and Murphy...now you're turning around and giving Dunleavy away for a guy who plays just like the guy you traded for Dunleavy? Oooook.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...adlines-sports
Sterling wants Maggette to stay
By Jason Reid, Times Staff Writer
January 26, 2007
Clippers owner Donald T. Sterling wanted to send a message, so he summoned General Manager Elgin Baylor, Coach Mike Dunleavy and Corey Maggette to an impromptu meeting Saturday near the bottom of the entrance ramp at Staples Center.
The Clippers had just routed the Memphis Grizzlies and Sterling figured the time was right to make his position known on the team's trade discussions involving Maggette. Sterling said he wanted the seven-year veteran to remain with the team, Maggette said he hoped to stay and Baylor and Dunleavy agreed that few players available in trades could help the Clippers more than Maggette, according to Clippers officials familiar with the conversation
Although the owner left the door ajar to trade the Clippers' leading scorer off the bench, telling Maggette he would permit Baylor and Dunleavy to move him in a deal that might improve the team significantly, Sterling was firm in his message: He wants Maggette to be with the Clippers for a long time.
The productive sixth man played a key role again Thursday night for the Clippers, who got a go-ahead three-pointer from Cuttino Mobley with 0.6 of a second remaining in a 102-101 win over the New Jersey Nets at Staples.
Maggette scored 18 points, grabbed six rebounds and had five assists.
The Newark Star-Ledger on Thursday reported that the Clippers and Nets talked about possibly trading Maggette and Shaun Livingston for star swingman Vince Carter and rookie guard Marcus Williams.
The Clippers did speak with the Nets about the availability of Carter and star point guard Jason Kidd, and were told the players were not available. The Clippers are no longer pursing any deals involving Carter and Kidd, team sources said.
The Clippers had been in discussions with many teams about potential trades that could help them improve before the Feb. 22 trading deadline. Carter and Kidd were among the players the Clippers identified as potential difference-makers.
The team had shopped Maggette because his agent, Rob Pelinka, was concerned about Maggette's role and requested a trade.
Before Thursday's game, Dunleavy said he did not expect Maggette to be traded.
"In the role he's in, Corey is very valuable to our team," Dunleavy said. "In terms of coming in and giving us scoring, rebounding and energy, Corey has been a big contributor to what we're trying to do."
Goodbye Corey.
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