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Umm.. This thread isn't about bringing back DBrown. It's about how DBrown isn't that good but he might be better than what we have. It's a statement about our bench; it's not saying they should bring him back.
If the Warriors are keeping SJax, maybe Matt Barnes (I don't think GS is keeping five swingmen).
Maybe Travis Outlaw (there's a thread where a publication said the Spurs are talking to the Blazers about him).
Damien Wilkins in on the block in Seattle, but I don't think he's an upgrade really, other than younger legs.
Hmm.. I'll have to think.
Umm.. This thread isn't about bringing back DBrown. It's about how DBrown isn't that good but he might be better than what we have. It's a statement about our bench; it's not saying they should bring him back.
FWIW, Mullin sounds like he wants to keep Jax, so I don't think he's going to be available.
Maybe you don't know who Devin Brown is
I think he might be confusing him with Antonio Daniels.
Brown=Good D.
Finley=NO D. AT ALL
It is a great mystery why the Spurs did not sign him. Sometimes the best things to do are the easiest -- Brown was right there for the taking.
One thing's for sure -- he's quick enough to grab a long rebound and he can create some havoc out there (for which team sometimes varies).
Or I was thinking Alex Garcia.I think he might be confusing him with Antonio Daniels.
And for the record, I have never believed that the Spurs really had any concern about his back. I think that was a publicly acceptable excuse to placate the local fans.
The question I have is- if Beno has the same work habits as Devin, then why did the Spurs pick up his option but not want Devin for the minimum? Do they really think he makes good trade bait to package with another contract?
Sometimes I think that the Spurs get a player and have in their minds what they are going to turn him into. When that does not happen, they cut him loose, not really examining whether or not they used the guy properly. What I mean is- they have a system and plug players into it even if they are trying to put a square peg into a round hole. For example, the Spurs repeatedly bring in guys who they want to have camp out at the three-point line- even if that has not been their game. Hedo was always more of a slasher, and even though he tried really hard to fill that role because he was about the closest thing the Spurs had to a pure shooter, it really was not his strength at all. The same with Brent Barry. The guy is at his best with the ball in his hands, but they bring him in and want him to do the whole camping out at the three-point line bit. Again, he is probably the best pure shooter they have, but it has been apparent from day one that he plays his best with the ball in his hands and contributes more to the overall sucess of the team that way. But you saw how quickly Hedo was gotten rid off- and how soon they started trying to trade Barry- because neither became the next Steve Kerr. All I kept hearing about Devin was that he wasn't good enough to be the next Bruce Bowen, so I guess the Spurs thought they would move forward with that search- which for the record still hasn't produced anyone even close to Devin- yet alone Bruce.
I disagree with that statement.
Devin Brown FG% is 36% and he is playing for one of the worst team in the league (Hornets are 5-9 with Devin, that is to say 29 win on the season).
Barry is a better backup SG/SF than Brown.
With Elson and Bonner, Spurs need less to play small ball than last year. Spurs have mainly play small this year when big men were injured. Evne if Brown is a better small ball PF than Finley, he isn't a very good one.
Beno has ten times more upside than Brown who is a 6'3" SG.
Even if this year : Brown > Beno, Beno at 100% >>> Brown at 100%.
But the point of the article was that Devin grew up outside of SA and learned how to be a pro with the right work ethic... In reality, he had a lot of the same issues at Utah and that's why Sloan got rid of him.
He may be one of those players who takes a longer time to figure out how to be a pro and match his talents to the game and to a team. It happens occasionally with players like Bowen, but most often with marginal players they bounce around and wind up playing overseas or hopefully become gainfully employed elsewhere.
As far as his play goes, his stats at NO are padded because he's getting more time because of injuries. In fact, he's now shooting at career lows percentagewise (.364 and .305 vs .409 and .346) and his percentages were never good although he got a lot of layups.
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I don't really agree with the statement. I think Barry makes a better backup point than Devin and even though I don't have much data on Bonner, what I've seen from him tells me he'd make a better backup PF.
I will give you that our bench sucks though....
I call for Devin Brown the day he left UTSA, I call for Devin Brown when he won the USBL player of the year, I call for Devin Brown for the entire 05-06 year and now.. and then Timvp starts a thread like its his idea.....
Welcome to the bandwagon....
The question is: Will Beno ever be playing at anywhere near 100% ever again?
I've never looked at Devin Brown with the same homerism that some Spurs fans did. Perhaps, had I known his UTSA history I would have been a believer.
But I think Timvp's original point was a valid one. Even with my assessment of him being merely average as far as NBA talent goes, I think he's playing better than anyone else coming off our bench this year.
Our bench...in spite of having some big names on it (Finley, Horry, Barry) stinks this season, so far.
Only Beno knows
On thing is sure : it's less likely than four months ago when spurs picked his option.
I don't know if he'd be the team's best backup PG, though admittedly I've never seen him play the PG spot so I may be biased. I would think that if Pop gave Manu/Barry more backup time there when Parker rests, one of them would be the best back up PG.
I do know that Devin Brown would probably have been a bigger help against Dallas last series and perhaps even this season. I'd rather have him in there when Pop decides to go small than Michael Finley. Brown rebounds better and defends better and I think he has the speed to stay with Dirk.
I haven't seen many Hornets games this season. Have they played the Mavs yet? If so, how did Devin Brown fare against them?
I hope you would, considering you were the person most against bringing back Devin in the first place. I would hope that you stuck to your guns. But your love for Finley and Beno isn't looking so hot now, is it?
Take out his first two games when he walked off the street and into major minutes with the Hornets where he went 1-11 and he's shooting 40%. And the fact that it's for one of the worst teams in the league makes it more impressive. Imagine what percentage Bruce Bowen would shoot if he were the main offensive weapon ... or your boy Michael Finley for that matter
And coming into the game against the Spurs, Devin had led the team to three straight wins as the starting point guard. And this is a team without Chris Paul, Peja Stojakovic, David West and Bobby Jackson. Only a hater wouldn't be impressed.(Hornets are 5-9 with Devin, that is to say 29 win on the season).
Uh, yeah, then what happen in 2005? Brown beat out Barry for the backup job. The only reason Barry "won" it back was because Kevin Willis decided to pick up and throw Devin in the shower.
Other than Game 1 of the season, I can't remember a game in which the Spurs didn't play small ball for a part of the game. On paper the Spurs should be playing small ball less, but tell that to Pop.
So he's an improvement over what the Spurs have but you didn't want him for the minimum?
Maybe the Spurs can win the Upside Championship this year
I agree with the statement and I really didn't like it when the Spurs dropped him to Utah. Devin Brown was a young, solid role player.
But then again, even though Barry is no star himself, he has given the Spurs clutch shooting in the playoffs. He's shooting really well this season from behind the arc this year. He's not the best defensive player but you can't say that he doesn't help at all.
Barry, maybe. But I think LJ was excluding all starters by default. Manu isn't bad at all at dishing the rock but he's a starter and therefor not really a backup PG.
that's the most correct thing ever posted. He owned Barry in the rotation, and people forget just how good he was playing before the back injury. I believe in the 8 games including and prior to the injury he averaged 15 points and 6 rebounds off the bench, after having a very good year already.If a slacking Devin Brown beat out Brent Barry for a job in the rotation last time he was on the team, the Spurs should have at least taken a look at a post Jerry Sloan version of Devin.
I don't see the link with Devin Brown. I don't like Finley, I've jsut said that eh wasn't that bad in december. I like Udrih and the way he plays when he decides to play.
BTW, you can like a player even if he sucks, scrubs are likeable too. Remember Theron Smith.
So puting good stats on a bad team is harder than a good team.
It was before his back injury. He has been quite bad since it.
Spurs have played 3.3 min per game in a small ball configuration in November and 3.9 min in december. It's quite few.
I rather sign another player for the min if Spurs want to have a small ball PF. Some D leaguer are likely better small ball PF than Devin.So he's an improvement over what the Spurs have but you didn't want him for the minimum?
Like it or not but some of Spurs moves are based on upside and not on immediate help.
Maybe the Spurs can win the Upside Championship this year
That's why they have signed White over players like Brown.
Spurs spend money on Udrih and White because they have the upside to be good nba players.
I've just explained why Spurs have picked Beno option and not spend money on Brown without saying if I agree or not with that.
The organization doesn't have press releases to placate the fans, the fans just assume things on their own.
I must have missed the whole "kevin willis throwing devin in the shower" thing back in '05. What happened? A shower fight?
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