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    Jay got waived because he got hurt on the NBDL doesnt have a injury list, he was having a pretty good begining of the season, so I wont give up on him
    He had a nagging groin injury -- at the same time I didn't see anything from him that would've suggested he'd help the Spurs this year. I'm still on the Will Conroy bandwagon, though I was really impressed by the debut of his former teammate Cheyne Gadson for the Toros yesterday. Pooh Jeter looked like crap in the same game. I've seen him look fantastic in other games -- it just looks like he needs more time to ensure a high level of consistency. It is his first year playing the point after all.

    For pure scoring, most of the NBA-caliber scorers have already been picked up. Jawad Williams is doing ok in scoring but plays zero defense and is a crappy rebounder for this size. Vincent Grier is probably the best all-around guard left. Von Wafer has been shooting very well this year though he sucked yesterday when I saw him. I'm still trying to figure out why Devin Green left a couple of weeks before the callup floodgates opened to play like seven games in Germany. He was getting alot of time at the point in Los Angeles and was on everyone's radar.

    For tweeners to pretend to be long SFs I still like Jamar Smith, who guarded TMac in preseason better than any Spur not named Bruce, and Mike Hall, who is a better outside shooter than Jamar this season, though he hasn't been playing as much perimeter defense.

    The Spurs might keep guys like this in mind if they send out more people in trade than they take back or waive anyone who isn't in their future plans after the trade deadline.

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    CD, why has White not been called up, his stats seem pretty decent, and I know he is active, has he not played well enough in the D league to get minutes with the Spurs?

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    The Spurs might keep guys like this in mind if they send out more people in trade than they take back or waive anyone who isn't in their future plans after the trade deadline.
    I'm certainly hoping that the Spurs will do a trade that will leave them with a roster spot to play with. I still suspect a Francis buyout is coming - it makes to much financial sense for the knicks, and I don't think he likes it there anyway. It would be nice to have a roster spot to catch a talent like him, or for a pick-up if someone in the D-league looks nice.

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    CD, why has White not been called up, his stats seem pretty decent, and I know he is active, has he not played well enough in the D league to get minutes with the Spurs?
    It's just two very different levels of play. Athletic players will always have their stats a bit inflated in the D-League because they can get away with alot of stuff they couldn't in the NBA, where defenses are better and opposing players are bigger and faster.

    Also, the Toros roster has been through some major changes, so he's just starting to play in something resembling a coherent halfcourt set. It'll be nice to see how he's used in a little more structured offense like the Spurs run now that there are a couple of guys on the team that can run the show.

    I hope the Spurs are watching D-League game tape and keeping tabs on what plays that work for White there may translate to the NBA. Personally I think his best offensive use on the Spurs would be as a off-the-ball cutter and occasional spot up shooter -- if that sounds like Jack to you, you're right, but don't expect prolific scoring like Jack. Defensively, he's the only guy we currently have who could follow in Bowen's footsteps as a versatile perimeter defender, and that alone may make him worth holding onto.

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    I'm certainly hoping that the Spurs will do a trade that will leave them with a roster spot to play with. I still suspect a Francis buyout is coming - it makes to much financial sense for the knicks
    It depens on the amount of the buyout.
    It would be nice to have a roster spot to catch a talent like him, or for a pick-up if someone in the D-league looks nice.
    I would take Francis over any D-Leaguer at this point provided he can function with his tendinitis.

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    One more thing about White -- I still really haven't seen what he can do off a decent pick. Those just don't seem to happen on the Toros (and less often on the Spurs these days, unfortunately). I would have more faith in him in that kind of play than most one-on-one situations in the NBA.

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    Can White even dribble, though? From what I saw he had bad handles and avoided contact at all costs.

    Then again, those two games I saw him play were supposedly his two worst games.

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    He can dribble ok, not a lock to dribble off his foot like Jack, but still much better in straight lines than changing direction -- like I said I'd just like to see him in that situation. He does avoid contact but was quick to follow shots when there was any opening and it would be nice having another guy who could keep up with Tony on a break. As I said before, I don't see his main role on the Spurs as a scorer.

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    More of a energy hustle guy? Sounds like what the Spurs need

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    No, more of a regular defender and option in offensive plays, not the primary scorer. The energy he would provide would be in transition.

    If you want a pure energy player, pick up Louis Amundson.

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    Hows Jawad Williams played? Always thought he would be a good pro when he was at NC, but I guess something didnt translate

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    Jawad is turning into Lee Nailon. Ok offense but nothing else.

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    Is Luke Jackson still in the D league, or was he called up yet? He is a great shooter and I could never understand why he couldnt catch on. Reminds me of Kapono a little bit

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    He got called up by the Clippers but went back to Idaho after his 10-day contract ran out. I think teams are still leery about his knee, but he'll probably get another contract next season if not this one.

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    a player from the D-LEAGUE what a joke,ELLIS

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    Can White even dribble, though? From what I saw he had bad handles and avoided contact at all costs.

    Then again, those two games I saw him play were supposedly his two worst games.
    I meant to tell you how much the Raptors commentators like Devin. Leo went so far as to say that they once miked Devin for an NBDL game and that he was impressed with how much knowledge Devin had even back then. He started the game last night at PG, but later played SF.

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