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[QUOTE=Kori Ellis]
Like I said earlier in this thread, I think he intentionally tried to create contact, but I don't think he maliciously was trying to hit Manu in the face/head as some here seem to think.[/QUOTE]
I just watched the replay and it looks like Kobe hits Manu with the back of his hand while flailing to try to draw contact.
This is probably the weakest suspension I've ever seen. If Kobe gets suspended for this, then any time that any player in the league is contacted above the shoulders, that should draw a suspension.
Is that a rule? Why wasn't Manu suspended last playoffs for his elbow on Artest? Same situation. This sucks big time. The NBA as a whole does not play by the same rules. Different strokes for different folks! I call bull !
TimVP I agree wholeheartedly....
I think it's somewhere between his hand and his elbow (like mid forearm), but I think the league considered it the same as elbow.
Anyway, if the supension leads to a Laker loss, then I'm all for it
Well given your avatar...
I kid. The same could be said about my opinion on the matter, if I weren't so right.
Here's the rule:
Officials have been instructed to eject a player who throws a punch, whether or not it connects, or an elbow which makes contact above shoulder level. If elbow contact is shoulder level or below, it shall be left to the discretion of the official as to whether the player is ejected. Even if a punch or an elbow goes undetected by the officials during the game, but is detected during a review of a videotape, that player will be penalized.
Yeah, that was the same exact play. Manu flailed to draw contact and elbowed Artest in the face.
Well actually, Kobe's wasn't as bad because he didn't hit him with his elbow.
Throwing an elbow means something different to me.
What Kobe did was worse than anything Stephen Jackson ever did so Indiana should get some money back or Kobe should get 30 games.
Man, I don't understand this at all.
There was a bunch of hits in that game that warranted a foul call, and MAYBE suspension, but not the Kobe hit on Manu, which looked entirely accidental.
Unless, it's as Kori says, it's simply a matter of "any blow to the head=suspension" regardless of whether it was an accident or not. Which I guess would make sense.
Because, really, if Kobe was so reckless with his body, even completely accidentally, as it clock Manu that hard in the head, that's really not OK. He could really hurt someone, even accidentally.
Which is the same thing say about Bowen, who I don't believe ever intentionally tries to hurt anyone. But then again, he's never accidentally hit anyone in the head.
Manu's got just about the deadliest elbows in the NBA...if you haven't seen him elbow anyone in the grill then you haven't been watching many Spurs games. In fact it's a pretty much guranteed that anyone that gets overly physical with Manu is going to catch a boney Argentine elbow upside they head at some point. There's a price to be paid for playing great D, and Manu generally makes players pay that price as much as any 2 guard in the league.
For purposes of not getting an elbow upside my face, I'd rather guard Kobe than Manu 7 days a week.
You can't be serious. I probably dislike Kobe as much as anyone could, but he doesn't deserve that kind of comment.
where should someone search to find a clip of the hit?
Except with his foot!
Wally right?
Yeah, did Bowen receive a suspension for kicking wally in the face...no, intentional or not...he deserved at least a game.
The league is trying to set an example. What can I do? I am a fly caught in this web.
It wasn't an elbow, it was the back of my hand. I was trying to draw a foul. Look at film of Miller, Manu, even Jordan. They all flared the arms out in order to draw attention, thus a foul.
Why would I hurt Manu? He is my favourate player in the world.
Okay you clearly DON'T remember how it went down. Manu wasn't even shooting, it was a loose ball and Manu was going forward toward the basket from the baseline after collecting the ball, while Artest was behind him trying to reach for it. I'm not saying it was totally unintentional, Manu might have been trying to send Artest a message early in the series, but the plays really weren't very similar at all.
Afterward, in the 3rd quarter when the game was a rout, Artest did indeed look for revenge. He looked behind him to see Manu chasing his guy off a screen, raised his elbow at just the right time, and turned his head away at the last second in a weak attempt to fool the refs into thinking he wasn't looking and it was an accident. It was like those no-look passes people throw where they're looking the whole time until the last nanosecond at their target.
kobe, shut up n go practice. You should get a divorce from that too. Hurry, cuz if you stay married for more than 10 years in cali you will be paying for life.
Mikejones99...you bring nothing to this forum...please leave.
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