Amare bitter at Gino even after game...

[Johnny RIngo]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but a couple of years ago against Phoenix in the playoffs did Stephen Hunter not extend his leg and kick Tim Duncan in the groin? I didn't see Tim going all ape like Amare did after getting hit.

Difference is Duncan's got class. Amare's just an overgrown . got should have stayed injured if he's too afraid to play some physical basketball.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

as an outside observer of this, i didnt think it was an intentional shot to the pills. but i did cringe when i saw it. and i would have been mad too, and im not surprised that he is angry.

yes, but he is a PROFESSIONAL. Pros don't get all temper-tantrum when they get hurt and scream obscenities at the other player, guaranteeing a technical foul and hurting their team. That's what children do on the playground. Amare shows zero professionalism, maturity, or team leadership.

Contrast his behavior with how Ginobili reacted to taking a shot to the face from Kobe. No yelling, no finger-pointing, no fake rushes at him (making sure teammates could "restrain" him before he got there), no anger. Just, hey, getting hit is part of the game, let's recover and get back in there and win this thing.

THAT is how a PRO handles it.

it is impossible to say if it was avoidable on manus part, as it was very well placed.

Get real. He was rising for a layup. He was jumping off his plant foot and raising his other leg -- that's how a one-footed jump works, watch any basketball player shooting a layup. He was going straight towards the basket. He was fouled by Amare jumping in front of him.

Was is "avoidable"? Well, Ginobili could have pulled back from his layup attempt when he saw Amare coming. But that's not what you do in basketball! He was trying to (a) get fouled and (b) make the bucket anyway. What was he supposed to do? He had the clear path to the basket and Amare was fouling him. Midair collisions on layups happen all the time.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Stephen Hunter doesn't exactly have a reputation as a flopper/injurer like Manu does...

Barbosa's injury last year caused by a Manu flop is still fresh in the minds of Suns fans and players. Seeing him go up and castrate Amare just fueled an already steady fire.

This "Barbosa was injured by a Manu flop" is a mythical narrative that is, when objectively viewed, FALSE. It's just used by Suns fans to whip themselves into some kind of childish frenzy about the evil Spurs.

If you actually view the videotape, Ginobili is not "flopping". He wasn't even really in the play. He was just standing in the paint, someone on the Suns nailed him and knocked him backwards into Barbosa. Ginobili was as surprised as anyone.

It's physics. Ginobili is pretty light and skinny. When one of these big guys nails him in the paint he's going to go flying.

[AZLouis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F5MznmWpSc

Check out Manu when goes in for a layup. Watch that left knee.

He always does his layups in that fashion.

Let's move on.

[TMTTRIO]

Watch how Amare shoves Manu in the face as he's going up for the layup first

[smeagol]

Amare and the Suns fans. Bunch of pussies.

[Amare_32]

Amare got up ready to fight, due to game contact. That's what the 'T' was for, and it shouldn't be rescinded. The league is GOING to get the fighting under control, and the first step is to stop all of this incessant, punk-ass posturing after game contact.

As for the Kobe comparisons, if Manu had kneed him ABOVE THE SHOULDERS, I'd agree with a suspension. Since that wasn't the case, there is very little likelihood of it happening. The league should suspend LeBron for that cheap-ass clothesline of Wade. I won't hold my breath waitng for the Golden Child to be suspended, though.

Mikki Moore of the Nets was in kind of the same thing when he got hit by Nocioni of the Bulls he got the tech but the leaque rescinded it when the saw the film. So it has been done.

[mabber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F5MznmWpSc

Check out Manu when goes in for a layup. Watch that left knee.

He always does his layups in that fashion.

Let's move on.

Yeah, I have no problem with that play. Manu goes to the hoop that way a lot. I think it's really to protect his own nads Plus, it will make the next guy that wants to get in his way to think twice. If I were a Spur's fan I'd have loved that play and if I were a Sun's fan I'd just tell Amare to suck it up.

With that said...CAN YOU IMAGINE if someone did that to Manu. There would be 10 threads-20+ pages long calling for the head of whoever did that to their beloved Manu

[YoMamaIsCallin]

With that said...CAN YOU IMAGINE if someone did that to Manu. There would be 10 threads-20+ pages long calling for the head of whoever did that to their beloved Manu

They have done this and worse to Manu, many times.

He gets up and goes to the foul line and makes his free throws.

He doesn't complain, much less be pseudo-aggressive towards the perpetrator. (This waiting-to-rush-him-until-your-teammates-can-restrain-you thing is pathetic.)

[nkdlunch]

With that said...CAN YOU IMAGINE if someone did that to Manu. There would be 10 threads-20+ pages long calling for the head of whoever did that to their beloved Manu

yup, they do worse to manu especially in the playoffs, we don't have a panic attack like Suns fans. Suns fans are pussies.

[LilMissSPURfect]

yup, they do worse to manu especially in the playoffs, we don't have a panic attack like Suns fans. Suns fans are pussies.

[5ToolMan]

Stephen Hunter doesn't exactly have a reputation as a flopper/injurer like Manu does...

Barbosa's injury last year caused by a Manu flop is still fresh in the minds of Suns fans and players. Seeing him go up and castrate Amare just fueled an already steady fire.

Sun's have a victim's mentality. If they would learn to man it up and play the physical game of hoops like men, they may grow to where they can make more of an impact in the playoffs.

Because being crying like little girls is woven in the fabric of players, coaches and fans expect the Suns post season to be another wimper and poof ... wait until next year ... bla ... bla ... bla.

[FromWayDowntown]

They have done this and worse to Manu, many times.

He gets up and goes to the foul line and makes his free throws.

He doesn't complain, much less be pseudo-aggressive towards the perpetrator. (This waiting-to-rush-him-until-your-teammates-can-restrain-you thing is pathetic.)

I'll never forget his effort in Games 3 and 4 of the Denver series in 2005, when he was getting pushed and shoved and hurled to the floor, even taking a clearly-deliberate flagrant foul, without ever saying a word of complaint about it. It doesn't matter how Manu is hit -- and he's hit a lot by opponents -- dude just gets off the floor, shoots his free throws and gets after it on the other end. I'm sure that's annoying as to fans of other teams, but nothing -- nothing -- seems to faze Manu at all.

[mabber]

I'll never forget his effort in Games 3 and 4 of the Denver series in 2005, when he was getting pushed and shoved and hurled to the floor, even taking a clearly-deliberate flagrant foul, without ever saying a word of complaint about it. It doesn't matter how Manu is hit -- and he's hit a lot by opponents -- dude just gets off the floor, shoots his free throws and gets after it on the other end. I'm sure that's annoying as to fans of other teams, but nothing -- nothing -- seems to faze Manu at all.

Doesn't annoy me at all. I respect the out of Ginobli. Too bad superstars like Duncan & Dirk can't learn from him. It would be nice if they didn't complain everytime they're touched.

[FromWayDowntown]

Doesn't annoy me at all. I respect the out of Ginobli. Too bad superstars like Duncan & Dirk can't learn from him. It would be nice if they didn't complain everytime they're touched.

On that point, I definitely agree with you.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Actually, I disagree. Manu does his share of complaining to the refs if the foul isn't called. But if the foul is called, he's good with it.

It seems that Euro-leaguers all are like this. I can't remember the last time a Euro-leaguer lashed out at the offender after a hard foul. Can you?

Maybe it's just the way they are coached and trained. Maybe that kind of behavior is looked down upon by Euro players. Any theories?

[Lady Marmalade]

Who cares????

[FromWayDowntown]

Actually, I disagree. Manu does his share of complaining to the refs if the foul isn't called. But if the foul is called, he's good with it.

It seems that Euro-leaguers all are like this. I can't remember the last time a Euro-leaguer lashed out at the offender after a hard foul. Can you?

Maybe it's just the way they are coached and trained. Maybe that kind of behavior is looked down upon by Euro players. Any theories?

My point is that Manu doesn't ever jump up and go after other players who get physical with him. He just continues to play.

I also think that Manu has a tendency to try to get clarifications early on, but eventually just shuts up and plays -- more so than perhaps any other Spur right now.

[PhxDog]

My point is that Manu doesn't ever jump up and go after other players who get physical with him.

Of course not. He prefers to wait for his chance, when the other player is vulnerable and Manu himself probably won't get suspended afterward.



But then, nobody's accusing Ginobili of being stupid, right?

[WalterBenitez]

Two Suns down unintentionally ... how good would be Manu doing on purpose?

[FromWayDowntown]

Of course not. He prefers to wait for his chance, when the other player is vulnerable and Manu himself probably won't get suspended afterward.



But then, nobody's accusing Ginobili of being stupid, right?

Yes, of all the things that he is, Manu without a doubt has the greatest body control in the history of mankind -- so good, in fact, that he can go full speed and manage to control his body into position where he deliberately injures opposing players. Even Jordan couldn't do that.

Manu is truly amazing.

[PhxDog]

Your hysterics aren't impressing me, .


I'm sure Manu was pleased as punch when Amare went after him--in addition to the free point, it made a pretty bald statement that there wouldn't be any real retaliation coming. (Not that he had much to worry about anyway, since the Suns' enforcers were both out with injuries at the time.)

[RonMexico]

Manu may have gotten hit before hard in that Denver series and he just took his licks. That doesn't mean he hasn't complained before and it also means he hasn't gotten hit as hard as he nailed Amare - especially in the "bad region." Show me the video where Manu is hit in the nuts and I'll give it to you, but as of right now, that's how he typically goes up.

Spurs fans seem to think that other teams are just " ing" when they call out their players. Manu might not be trying to intentionally hurt somebody, but that doesn't mean it's the cleanest play in the world when he lifts his leg high like that. Just like it isn't clean when Bowen supposedly puts his foot under other players' feet. Just like when Josh Howard would trip Shawn Marion every game of the WCF so he couldn't get out on the fast break. Just like Raja Bell when he pulls players into him, then flops and gets a charging call.

Still, stop with this "Amare hits him in the face" crap. Amare couldn't reach any farther because Manu's knee was 3 inches up his scrotum so obviously he's going to hit Manu (who is leaning back at the time - creating even more distance) in the face. Stop acting like someone is a pussy because he jumps up to yell at somebody - he wasn't charging him to hit him or anything, he was just telling Manu to cut that out. He got the tech after he kept jawing when he walked towards the Suns' bench - it seems like Bavetta gave him a couple of seconds to cool off and then when he went at it again, he got the whistle.

[washingtonwizard]

Yes, of all the things that he is, Manu without a doubt has the greatest body control in the history of mankind -- so good, in fact, that he can go full speed and manage to control his body into position where he deliberately injures opposing players. Even Jordan couldn't do that.

Manu is truly amazing.

[dave]

watch dunleavy
he gets sacked by his own teammate

then proceeds to get all angry but not knowing who did it
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lol, forgot to mention where to find the video

search youtube for "dunleavy"