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  1. #76
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    Please enough with the Mavs! Enough with the Mavs vs Suns threads! Enough with anything Mavs related unless they have a game on! Everyone knows they are good. We don't need this forum with endless threads on them.

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    If Howard was the "ultimate team guy", why is he whining about being left off the West All-Star roster? I love Howard, but "team" guys say, "I'm not in this game for individual recognition. I'm in it to help my team win the championship."
    this is true but being named to the all-star game is more of an individual accomplishment which lots of guys aspire to throughout their careers. i don't think it should be a big distraction though and since that ONE interview, josh has pretty much been quiet. does arenas make his team better? definitely not...but should he be an all-star? i'd say yes.

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    Please enough with the Mavs! Enough with the Mavs vs Suns threads! Enough with anything Mavs related unless they have a game on! Everyone knows they are good. We don't need this forum with endless threads on them.
    But what about J-Ho????


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    Is that the first time you've used an emoticon in your post?

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    But Jordan's greatness as a basketball player wasn't a matter of debate. Amare's greatness as a teammate and player are still up for grabs. Likewise, the only people in that article who said Howard deserved an all-star berth were Avery Johnson and Josh Howard. Why didn't the "ultimate team guy" have anyone else come to his defense? Also, I've never seen him direct attention away from J-Ho himself. Just pointing that out...
    Are you really that dense?

    1. DALLAS MORNING NEWS article...thus, a local interview by a local guy getting two mavericks' perspective about the game

    2. look at some national media outlets, plenty of analysts have come out and said that josh should be an all-star

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    So, Dirk, Josh and Avery... it's ok - Stack probably thinks he should be an All-Star over Howard anyways.
    stack thought kobe should've been an mvp over dirk last year so wtf do you expect?!?!?! it's not like they went and did a poll of every single mavs player as to whether josh should be an all-star...you are ridiculous at times

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    Are you really that dense?

    1. DALLAS MORNING NEWS article...thus, a local interview by a local guy getting two mavericks' perspective about the game

    2. look at some national media outlets, plenty of analysts have come out and said that josh should be an all-star
    I know - I was just pointing out the irony of "Mavs vs. the World" when all he does is quote a local article. More extensive research would have provided those other links. I played as dumb as the thread creator.

    Btw, I even said Josh Howard should be in the All-Star game. So if you want me to modify it, then I can say, Josh, Dirk, Avery and RonMexico said he should be in it. Probably Josh's new baby said so too...

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    stack thought kobe should've been an mvp over dirk last year so wtf do you expect?!?!?! it's not like they went and did a poll of every single mavs player as to whether josh should be an all-star...you are ridiculous at times
    I just don't think Stack is as good a teammate as some people on this board try to make him out to be. I think there are certain moments where he's still in it for himself even though people think he's got his eyes on the prize by "coming off the bench." Doesn't mean he's not an ass behind closed doors.

    Ultimate show of selfishness was when he tried to back out and take that 3 last year against SA like an idiot and then proceeded to call it a "good look" in post-game interviews when Ginobili was clearly in his face. No apologies to his teammates for making a boneheaded decision. For all the stupidity of Tim Thomas, he at least admitted to making mistakes and thanking his teammates for bailing him out at times.

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    Please enough with the Mavs! Enough with the Mavs vs Suns threads! Enough with anything Mavs related unless they have a game on! Everyone knows they are good. We don't need this forum with endless threads on them.
    i *heart* you Amare_32 but not EVERYONE knows...RonMexico lives in a bubble of hot air

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    i *heart* you Amare_32 but not EVERYONE knows...RonMexico lives in a bubble of hot air
    With my posse of Shank, dirk4mvp, stretch, Dirk Nowitzki, mavsfan1000, Nashfan, and Fillmoe.

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    I know - I was just pointing out the irony of "Mavs vs. the World" when all he does is quote a local article. More extensive research would have provided those other links. I played as dumb as the thread creator.

    Btw, I even said Josh Howard should be in the All-Star game. So if you want me to modify it, then I can say, Josh, Dirk, Avery and RonMexico said he should be in it. Probably Josh's new baby said so too...
    i don't get you, amarelooms is like the least liked mavs fan around on ANY board, mavs included and yet you fall for the bait all the time and it just made you sound like you yourself don't know what you're talking about...anyway, ignore amarelooms, he goes into gametime mavs threads on other boards, cusses out the mavericks, talks about trades when we're down and calls the games for the other team at halftime

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    lol, true true

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    I just don't think Stack is as good a teammate as some people on this board try to make him out to be. I think there are certain moments where he's still in it for himself even though people think he's got his eyes on the prize by "coming off the bench." Doesn't mean he's not an ass behind closed doors.

    Ultimate show of selfishness was when he tried to back out and take that 3 last year against SA like an idiot and then proceeded to call it a "good look" in post-game interviews when Ginobili was clearly in his face. No apologies to his teammates for making a boneheaded decision. For all the stupidity of Tim Thomas, he at least admitted to making mistakes and thanking his teammates for bailing him out at times.
    I also think there have been plenty of Suns who weren't great teammates: Amare (until recently), Marion (when he gets self-conscious), Jim Jackson, Pat Burke is kind of surly at times, Stephon Marbury, Antonio McDyess, Penny Hardaway. I'm not just singling out Stack and Josh Howard - they're just the ones whose at udes I don't prefer and are magnified because they're on the Mavs.

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    i *heart* you Amare_32 but not EVERYONE knows...RonMexico lives in a bubble of hot air


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    I just don't think Stack is as good a teammate as some people on this board try to make him out to be. I think there are certain moments where he's still in it for himself even though people think he's got his eyes on the prize by "coming off the bench." Doesn't mean he's not an ass behind closed doors.

    Ultimate show of selfishness was when he tried to back out and take that 3 last year against SA like an idiot and then proceeded to call it a "good look" in post-game interviews when Ginobili was clearly in his face. No apologies to his teammates for making a boneheaded decision. For all the stupidity of Tim Thomas, he at least admitted to making mistakes and thanking his teammates for bailing him out at times.
    I think he's definitely a contributor who like every player has a flaw or two...his is that he tries to play one-on-one at the wrong time and too often but he's kept it in check a bit more this season so I haven't screamed at the tv as much when he has the ball. I don't think the mates think he's an ass behind closed doors and it's obvious that he gets along with Avery very well outside of the game. I'm not saying he's the perfect, ideal teammate but then I doubt the same could be said about guys like Marion or Raja who also seem to sometimes have a chip on their shoulders.

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    I'm not just singling out Stack and Josh Howard - they're just the ones whose at udes I don't prefer and are magnified because they're on the Mavs.
    don't talk about my boy jho, he's my favorite mavericks, makes me smile everytime he steps on the floor and i might have to drive to houston and throw a basketball at your head...i absolutely won't stand any crap about josh!

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    i don't get you, amarelooms is like the least liked mavs fan around on ANY board, mavs included and yet you fall for the bait all the time and it just made you sound like you yourself don't know what you're talking about...anyway, ignore amarelooms, he goes into gametime mavs threads on other boards, cusses out the mavericks, talks about trades when we're down and calls the games for the other team at halftime
    Hahaha you are as dumb as the rest of em....are you blonde? I call it like it is unlike you homers. The greatest people are often hated and misunderstood...who gives if some ass clowns on the internet don't like me.


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    I think he's definitely a contributor who like every player has a flaw or two...his is that he tries to play one-on-one at the wrong time and too often but he's kept it in check a bit more this season so I haven't screamed at the tv as much when he has the ball. I don't think the mates think he's an ass behind closed doors and it's obvious that he gets along with Avery very well outside of the game. I'm not saying he's the perfect, ideal teammate but then I doubt the same could be said about guys like Marion or Raja who also seem to sometimes have a chip on their shoulders.
    Above, I agreed about Marion, but I think Raja is a very good teammate overall. He has a little bit of a self-admitted anger problem and he once blew up at D'Antoni and Diaw last year in Toronto or something. Later, he apologized, but he's one guy I'd love to have out there because he's a "warrior" and someone who will stand by you at all times.

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    don't talk about my boy jho, he's my favorite mavericks, makes me smile everytime he steps on the floor and i might have to drive to houston and throw a basketball at your head...i absolutely won't stand any crap about josh!
    Haha - fair enough, but you realize you just gave me some excellent fodder. *wink*

    I still think he should be an all-star and I've been afraid of his ability to dismantle the Suns since the 2005 WCSF.

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    Above, I agreed about Marion, but I think Raja is a very good teammate overall. He has a little bit of a self-admitted anger problem and he once blew up at D'Antoni and Diaw last year in Toronto or something. Later, he apologized, but he's one guy I'd love to have out there because he's a "warrior" and someone who will stand by you at all times.
    Marion is too thin skinned for a basketball player. I agree that Raja is the better overall teammate. If it gets them to the Finals Bell can blow up at them all year long. Personally I would like to see Marion find an answer for Bowen's defense. Bowen has the ability to take him out of the game as well as AK-47. Notice in Saturday's close loss to the Jazz he had only 4 points and fouled out.
    Last edited by Amare_32; 02-05-2007 at 08:17 PM.

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    Mavs ain't all that. Wait til the playoffs- y'all go'n choke.

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    What the ?

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    Mavs choke? Are you insane.. what in world are you in?

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    Nah im pretty confident they won't choke this year, I mean look at the way they handled the pressure in the semifinals against the spurs.

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