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    What debate?

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    Well, in this thread, the debate over whether or not Obama's past drug use is relevant to his bid for the presidency. Or, initially, the debate over whether his calling combat deaths in Iraq "wasted" lives was a show-stopper in his campaign.

    You brought up sexuality and Nbadan brought up racism.

    By the way, I kind of followed the Ford race and I don't recall his taste in women ever being raised.

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    By the way, I kind of followed the Ford race and I don't recall his taste in women ever being raised.
    You didn't follow it at all then.

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    You didn't follow it at all then.
    Oh, I can imagine there were things said in lefty blogs or suggested by the media that indicated Ford critics were critical because of who he was with; but, none of the coverage I saw or blogs I read ever mentioned this.

    Conservatives are regularly tagged with the racist or phobic tag in liberal discussions over why Democratic candidates are critized by the right.

    I didn't know he was with a white woman.

    From my recollection the criticism was mostly based on his associations with his crooked father and his silly campaign mistakes, like crashing his opponents news conference.

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    By the way, nice diversion from the discussion over you and Nbadan introducing the phobe and racist cards in this thread.

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    Oh, I can imagine there were things said in lefty blogs or suggested by the media that indicated Ford critics were critical because of who he was with; but, none of the coverage I saw or blogs I read ever mentioned this.


    You didn't follow it at all.

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    You didn't follow it at all.
    Really, who brought it up? Care to share a link that demonstrates this was made an issue by his critics or opponent?

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    You sure followed it closely, didn't you?

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    I'd love to help you Charles, but I don't want to bring up something like that in a political discussion. Apparently it's wrong to discuss anything like that.

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    Well, what do you know, I googled, "Harold Ford Jr. and white women," and presto, I found a bunch of lefty blogs making the claim that Harold Ford Jr. lost the Senate race because Corker was preying on the "he's coming for our women" tactic.

    I even watched one of the ads they said proved this. What I saw was criticism Ford attended a Playboy part (he's a playboy) and that he's into porn...among other criticisms in the ad. I didn't get the sense it was even suggesting he was "coming for our women."

    Like I said, I would imagine there were left blogs making this claim. But, I didn't see any of this in the news articles and blogs I read on the race. And, I took an interest when he crashed Corker's press conference that day.

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    How dare you talk about such things!

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    I'd love to help you Charles, but I don't want to bring up something like that in a political discussion. Apparently it's wrong to discuss anything like that.
    Not when it's the ing topic you idiot. Man, you are clueless.

    I know, you just can't produce a non-lefty source that claims that 1) Harold Ford, Jr. was "coming for our women" or that his seeing a white woman was something of an issue in the campaign or 2) a righty source that actually says that.

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    I see you don't have an answer.

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    How dare you bring this up!

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    It is verboten!

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    at you close following of the race.

    You were all over that commercial story three months later, Scoop!

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    at you close following of the race.

    You were all over that commercial story three months later, Scoop!
    I said I kind of followed the race.

    And, it was followed by many of the blogs I read. I never saw the topic come up.

    Again, I challenge you to produce something either from the media or the right that says Ford seeing white women was an issue in the campaign.

    I'm googling hard now, and, yes, I'm finding a bunch of lefty blogs making this claim but, when I read or view the material they say proves it out, it's about his playboy ways.

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    So, unless you're going to produce a link, let's get back to the original discussion.

    Why did you bring up sexuality in this thread? Do you have something against gay people?

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    If it's not in a right wing blog, why should I read it?

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    I'm googling hard now
    Did you find any pre-9/11 Afghanistan invasion plans?

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    Again, I challenge you to produce something either from the media or the right that says Ford seeing white women was an issue in the campaign.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/us...rssnyt&emc=rss

    You don't google as hard as you claim, Charles.

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    Why did you bring up sexuality in this thread?
    It was a joke.
    Do you have something against gay people?
    Nope.

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    A joke about President Lincoln's sexual orientation? Isn't that being more than a little insensitive to gays?

    I guess I'll have to take your word for it but, it sure appears to me you have some issue with it or you wouldn't have brought it up in comparison -- jokingly or not.

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    A joke about President Lincoln's sexual orientation? Isn't that being more than a little insensitive to gays?
    Why? Would they not not want Lincoln to be associated with gays?
    I guess I'll have to take your word for it but, it sure appears to me you have some issue with it or you wouldn't have brought it up in comparison -- jokingly or not.
    Since you can't let it go, I'll assume it's a huge issue with you.

    Are you gay?

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    Yoni must be a psychologist.

    People can't make a passing comment without being a closet racist/ phobe now a days. Apparently rabid accusation of such is the answer to eliminating these problems from society.

    Who's really playing the prejudice cards here?

    In real news Obama is still second in popularity behind Hillary.
    Hopefully that changes.

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