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    Here's a question.

    Which stat line is better?

    16.3 points and 6.9 rebounds in 29 minutes

    18 points and 6.6 rebounds in 30 minutes.

    How much better and why?
    they´re about the same.i´d take the second one,but I´d look at the fg % , apg% and spg also ,to get to see the whole picture

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    The first is 61% -- all two pointers.

    The second is 53% two ponters and 28% three pointers.

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    The first is 61% -- all two pointers.

    The second is 53% two ponters and 28% three pointers.
    I take the second one.but give me the apg and spg averages

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    is his buyout still above 10mill?

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    Here's a question.

    Which stat line is better?

    16.3 points and 6.9 rebounds in 29 minutes

    18 points and 6.6 rebounds in 30 minutes.

    How much better and why?
    Marcus stat line is better.

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    Here is the player with the first stat line:



    This is the player with the second stat line in the same league:


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    Damn you Bruno!

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    I seriously doubt that the Spurs are willing to give him $3.5 million a season.
    If guys like Elson (who was waaaaay below Scola in Europe), Garbajosa and Oberto (both less athletic and slower than Scola, with Scola having a CLEAR edge on the offensive end) or even Nocioni (who, despite being a year older than Scola, was behind Scola in performance, when they were teammates in Tau Ceramica)...have had different level of success....

    What would make you think that a guy with so much talent and proven leadership (captain and MVP of Tau Ceramica, one of the best teams of Euroleague year after year, practically co-MVP of the 2004 olympics side by side with manu, second best argentinian player despite being injured in the last world cup, behind Manu and ahead Nocioni) wouldn't be a SURE BET for ANY NBA franchise?

    For succesful FIBA players, sometimes lack of athleticism is a handicap, but, as I said, Scola, 6'9" 240 lbs, is faster and more athletic than Oberto and Garbajosa, for instance, just more talented and fundamentally skilled.

    His buyout was the HUGE barrier, it was 14.5 million euro until the end of this season, once this 06/07 season in over, his contract (a 10-year contract signed when he was 17) says that the buyout will be only 800 K euros, and then it would be quite possible for him to come into NBA.

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    If guys like Elson (who was waaaaay below Scola in Europe), Garbajosa and Oberto (both less athletic and slower than Scola, with Scola having a CLEAR edge on the offensive end) or even Nocioni (who, despite being a year older than Scola, was behind Scola in performance, when they were teammates in Tau Ceramica)...have had different level of success....

    What would make you think that a guy with so much talent and proven leadership (captain and MVP of Tau Ceramica, one of the best teams of Euroleague year after year, practically co-MVP of the 2004 olympics side by side with manu, second best argentinian player despite being injured in the last world cup, behind Manu and ahead Nocioni) wouldn't be a SURE BET for ANY NBA franchise?

    For succesful FIBA players, sometimes lack of athleticism is a handicap, but, as I said, Scola, 6'9" 240 lbs, is faster and more athletic than Oberto and Garbajosa, for instance, just more talented and fundamentally skilled.

    His buyout was the HUGE barrier, it was 14.5 million euro until the end of this season, once this 06/07 season in over, his contract (a 10-year contract signed when he was 17) says that the buyout will be only 800 K euros, and then it would be quite possible for him to come into NBA.
    800 k euros is like 1600 k Dollars,Scola is gonna have to give up like 1100k dollars to come to the NBA ,in order pay 500k dollars on the spurs part.

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    Having great stats in another league than nba (like in europe, Dleague or NCAA) doens't mean that you will be a good player in nba.

    Saying that a player like Scola will be a good nba player because he has great stats and a lot of success in europe isn't a solid argument. People too should ask themselves how his game will translate in nba and with Spurs.

    BTW, I can put too euro stats from another PF (it wasn't in Spain but in another great european league with a crappy team) : 19.2 pts (54.3 FG%), 9.3 rbds, 2.3 stls in 36.8min.

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    Having great stats in another league than nba (like in europe, Dleague or NCAA) doens't mean that you will be a good player in nba.

    Saying that a player like Scola will be a good nba player because he has great stats and a lot of success in europe isn't a solid argument. People too should ask themselves how his game will translate in nba and with Spurs.

    BTW, I can put too euro stats from another PF (it wasn't in Spain but in another great european league with a crappy team) : 19.2 pts (54.3 FG%), 9.3 rbds, 2.3 stls in 36.8min.
    sure thing,there´s a bunch of guys with good stats in europe playing for good leagues,but If you wanna have a good idea of how their performance is gonna be playing against NBA players just go to the world championships and Olympics Stats.
    There you´ll see that Scola guarded players like Duncan,Dirk,Raho,Milicic, etc,and he won most of the times, and got about 16 to 20 pts and 9 to 12 rebounds.
    Not bud for a Non american Euroleague player,huh?

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    Having great stats in another league than nba (like in europe, Dleague or NCAA) doens't mean that you will be a good player in nba.

    Saying that a player like Scola will be a good nba player because he has great stats and a lot of success in europe isn't a solid argument. People too should ask themselves how his game will translate in nba and with Spurs.

    BTW, I can put too euro stats from another PF (it wasn't in Spain but in another great european league with a crappy team) : 19.2 pts (54.3 FG%), 9.3 rbds, 2.3 stls in 36.8min.
    Good point. But from what I read, Scola is a smart low-post player (doesn't just bully his way to the basket) and he is capable of hitting the 15-18ft shot. Both qualities translate well to the NBA. Is that an accurate statement of his play, or am I totally off-base? Is he a "banger" that won't be able to bang in the NBA due to his lack of size?

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    So Duncan would suck in the NBA because he did badly in the Olympics.

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    So Duncan would suck in the NBA because he did badly in the Olympics.
    Duncan did good,so did Scola
    That´s all

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    To piggyback on my earlier statement...

    I also read that he's a very aggressive, active player. Does he draw alot of fouls and have a decent FT %?

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    Duncan did good,so did Scola
    That´s all
    You call what Duncan did good?

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    Good point. But from what I read, Scola is a smart low-post player (doesn't just bully his way to the basket) and he is capable of hitting the 15-18ft shot. Both qualities translate well to the NBA. Is that an accurate statement of his play, or am I totally off-base? Is he a "banger" that won't be able to bang in the NBA due to his lack of size?
    He aint too tall,that´s true.So isn´t Malik Rose
    And i still remember a guy called Charles barkley.

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    You call what Duncan did good?
    In the Olympics?yes
    In the NBA,he made history

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    I just don't have enough proof that Scola is going to be all that in the NBA. I've said before that I think at best he would be Corliss Williamson in his prime with some Argentinian intangible mojo -- that might be good for the Spurs. What's the going rate for that?

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    To piggyback on my earlier statement...

    I also read that he's a very aggressive, active player. Does he draw alot of fouls and have a decent FT %?
    61%

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    In the Olympics?yes
    In the NBA,he made history
    So Scola will be better than Duncan in the NBA.

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    Good point. But from what I read, Scola is a smart low-post player (doesn't just bully his way to the basket) and he is capable of hitting the 15-18ft shot. Both qualities translate well to the NBA. Is that an accurate statement of his play, or am I totally off-base? Is he a "banger" that won't be able to bang in the NBA due to his lack of size?
    I son't think that Scola will be able to score in the post against nba players who are bigger and/or more athletic than european players. Being smart and versatile is what can save him in nba.

    My POV about Scola and the nba is that I don't know if he can succeed. On the on hand he will have to change a lot of things to succeed in nba but on the other hand he is smart, versatile and plays with a lot of heart so the translation can work.

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    So Scola will be better than Duncan in the NBA.
    Not even close.But he always did ok guarding Duncan or DIRK, and many other NBA players.
    And right now the spurs need another option to get to hold DIRK not to play out of his mind all the time

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    I son't think that Scola will be able to score in the post against nba players who are bigger and/or more athletic than european players. Being smart and versatile is what can save him in nba.

    My POV about Scola and the nba is that I don't know if he can succeed. On the on hand he will have to change a lot of things to succeed in nba but on the other hand he is smart, versatile and plays with a lot of heart so the translation can work.

    He seems to have that heart/determination from what I've seen. That has to be encouraging.

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    BTW, I can put too euro stats from another PF (it wasn't in Spain but in another great european league with a crappy team) : 19.2 pts (54.3 FG%), 9.3 rbds, 2.3 stls in 36.8min.
    And this PF is Matt Bonner.

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