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    Basicly the team changed from last year on center position. WHat would you give to have Nazr&Rasho here now? Im talking about the D and rebounding.

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    I think their main problem is 'desire'. They do not want it badly enough. If they want it badly enough, they will fight for that rebound, dive for the ball, drive the lane, etc. I just do not see the passion like I used to see in their eyes.

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    I said it before, and I'll say it again:

    When the Spurs got rid of Rasho and Nazr, fans assumed it was to bring in someone who could defend like Rasho and rebound like Nazr. Instead, they got players who defend like Nazr and rebound like Rasho.

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    I think their main problem is 'desire'. They do not want it badly enough. If they want it badly enough, they will fight for that rebound, dive for the ball, drive the lane, etc. I just do not see the passion like I used to see in their eyes.

    ONE man plays with desire and that's MANU. He may have off nights but he gives 100 %. I luv that dude. I'd trade Tim before him.

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    I would rather have Rasho then Oberto.
    Me too

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    Barry's analysis after the game on post game report was DEAD ON.

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    ONE man plays with desire and that's MANU. He may have off nights but he gives 100 %. I luv that dude. I'd trade Tim before him.
    This situation is poison for Manu. Is hard to see him play at 100%

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    "We're just not able to get over that hump when we need to,'' Duncan said. "The consistency is not there, offensively and defensively.''
    There you have it. Just about everything needs help. Defense, offense, and rebounding in general.

    Ah, getting over that hump. When presented by the challenge of beating a single team with a rather good record, the Spurs cannot get the job done on any given night.

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    Barry's analysis after the game on post game report was DEAD ON.
    What did he say-- anyone?

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    You folks still want to overreact? The Finals is between the 2 most proven teams in the league right now... San Antonio and Detroit! Yeah Dallas is gonna get lucky with the refs again! Suns dont play D! Houston/Lakers?

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    Spurs don't play D either

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    ONE man plays with desire and that's MANU. He may have off nights but he gives 100 %. I luv that dude. I'd trade Tim before him.
    You're insane.

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    Bowen is not working out because the lack of a center, the defensive scheme has shifted from taking players to the corners or post players for a block, to defending top ofensive players one on one. We need a legit post besides duncan

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    Can you imagine if Tim played with Manu's desire and urgency ? He'd be unstoppable.

    This team plays with way too much complacency. We are turning into the regular season version of Robert Horry. A little slow, a little inncaurate and a little too much chilling out instead of getting after it.

    Now, if the team can turn it up a notch like the "playoffs" Robert Horry, we'll be ok. I just don't see it.. Its borderline disgusting to watch these guys play nowadays.
    This roster doesn't have it or hasn't shown it.

    When we used to lose in the past years, you could check the box score and see that we attempted 15 or so 3 pointers. That's weak. We aren't the Suns. We don't shoot very well and its no secret. It's LAZY ball. No one wants to work for baskets anymore. No one moves on offense or cuts to the basket. This needs to stop.

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    ONE man plays with desire and that's MANU. He may have off nights but he gives 100 %. I luv that dude. I'd trade Tim before him.
    You're kidding, trading TD before Manu?

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    Can you imagine if Tim played with Manu's desire and urgency ? He'd be unstoppable.
    You're kidding, right? You don't think Tim plays w/ the same heart and sense of urgency that Manu does. OMG.

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    The main problem : we don't play 48 minutes ; the league should change the rules for us : 3 periods games

    Take our last game vs Suns : for the 3 1/2 quarters, we were controlling the tempo, and then Bam! okay it was the 2nd game of a back-to-back, bad exemple....

    Okay, our 2nd meeting with Dallas this season : the 1st quarter we weren't doing anything and we had to make a run to comeback ; we lost a close one ;

    At Orlando we blew a big lead ;

    Today vs Heat we stayed in the game for 3 periods ; then in the 4th...

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    On the road trip, the Spurs have been outrebounded 175-139 in the 4 losses.

    In the losses, opponents have shot 48%, while in the two wins the opponents have shot 37%.

    And it hasn't mattered what the Spurs themselves shot -- in both losses and wins, they shot about 43%.

    So obviously, it's about rebounding and D.

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    On the road trip, the Spurs have been outrebounded 175-139 in the 4 losses.

    In the losses, opponents have shot 48%, while in the two wins the opponents have shot 37%.

    And it hasn't mattered what the Spurs themselves shot -- in both losses and wins, they shot about 43%.

    So obviously, it's about rebounding and D.
    Those were our strength before
    We've been so focused on adjusting to Dallas and crappy small ball that we can't rebound and D-up anymore. Small ball must die

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    Those were our strength before
    We've been so focused on adjusting to Dallas and crappy small ball that we can't rebound and D-up anymore. Small ball must die
    The reason the Spurs can't rebound or D-up is not because they are trying to adjust to Dallas. It is because their centers are total crap, and most of the rest of the role players are AARP members. Style has nothing to do with it. Small ball is just a sign of resignation that, since rebounding and defense are lost causes, the best the Spurs can do is try to outscore people.

    But of course, that doesn't work either because other teams' perimeter players are younger and more athletic.

    Basically the Spurs are just screwed against the better teams, it isn't going to get any better this season, and it won't get better until the roster is rebuilt around the Big 3, which may not happen in full until Summer 2008.

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    It is because their centers are total crap
    The moves done in summer have made that possible ; we made some moves so we could adjust to the Mavs, but the results are not pretty

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    The moves done in summer have made that possible ; we made some moves so we could adjust to the Mavs, but the results are not pretty
    The Spurs didn't make moves to adjust to the Mavs; they made moves to dump long-term salary commitments.

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    The Spurs didn't make moves to adjust to the Mavs; they made moves to dump long-term salary commitments.
    mmm....didn't know that ; well, they are paying for it now

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    You're kidding, right? You don't think Tim plays w/ the same heart and sense of urgency that Manu does. OMG.

    No, I don't, and he doesn't. When was the last time you saw Tim crash the floor for a loose ball ? When was the last time you saw him give up his body to take a charge ?

    Look, Tim is a great player, a HOF player and the most talented guy on our team. But if you don't think he hangs his head or starts to feel sorry for himself on the court, then you are kidding yourself.

    Do you think Manu gives a crap if he misses a few shots ? no ! He doesnt mope around, he plays harder.

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    Basically the Spurs are just screwed against the better teams, it isn't going to get any better this season, and it won't get better until the roster is rebuilt around the Big 3, which may not happen in full until Summer 2008.
    Well it will likely be the BIG 2 by then. Manu will be 31 and likely past his prime. Duncan and Parker should be fine if healthy.

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