Al-Qaeda in Asia?

[ChumpDumper]

Chump, as stated by me before, "Bush at War" is an excellent book and paints the administration in a very positive light. "Plan of Attack" is also an excellent book and doesn't paint the administration in a very positive light.



My point being, that Woodward had absolutely zero intention of trying to make Bush look bad in the first book, therefore, why would he lie about the things this topic is discussing.

Whether or not his view changed since then and his "Plan of Attack" book was written with an agenda, that's a different topic. But the first book was written non-bias and if there was any agenda at all, it was to make Bush and company look awfully good.

Sure, but I don't know how the fact the Pentagon had no invasion plan for Afghanistan could be handled as anything but a fact, a fact that would be nonsensical to make up. If Woodward just made it up it would be easily disproven and his credibility would be nil.

[clambake]

Exactly. Everything is fine until Woodwards truth dug too deep. Woodward's agenda consisted of nothing more than fact gathering. Better find another route. Attacking Woodwards credibility will fail.

[ChumpDumper]

I just find it hilarious that someone thinks Woodward made up a fact that underpins an entire 300-page book and the entire Bush administration just played along.

[clambake]

He thinks that because it helps the medicine go down.

[ChumpDumper]

His thinks own perception of the Pentagon is a better source than the entire national security team of the Bush administration, including Bush.

[ChumpDumper]

Has Yoni found something other than post-invasion uncorroborated innuendo that proves Woodward's quote and the Bush administration wrong yet?

[Yonivore]

Has Yoni found something other than post-invasion uncorroborated innuendo that proves Woodward's quote and the Bush administration wrong yet?

Nah, I moved on. This is a dead thread.

[ChumpDumper]

I couldn't find anything and realized how stupid I looked disputing the entire Bush administration. I am much more interested in whining about not being able to use the "N" word because Chris Rock personally called me a cracker.

[Phenomanul]

Has Yoni found something other than post-invasion uncorroborated innuendo that proves Woodward's quote and the Bush administration wrong yet?

Did you find evidence that would prove with absolute certainty that military scenarios aren't developed at the Pentagon? Scenarios involving unstable countries in unstable regions - does Afghanistan not meet that mold? Does the Pentagon always tell all?

[ChumpDumper]

Did you find evidence that would prove with absolute certainty that military scenarios aren't developed at the Pentagon?

Read the quote. Scenarios are developed, they just didn't make one for an invasion of Afghanistan.

Does the Pentagon always tell all?

What do they gain by saying they had no plan? The entire book is about making a plan -- actually using the CIA's plan -- when they had none of their own to go on; unlike Iraq where they did have Op Plan 1003 to go on and talked about it in detail. Are you guys even familiar with the story?