I am saying that your issue seems to be that he verbalized a prejudiced thought, not that he had the prejudiced thought to begin with.
I'm fairly confident that Tim Hardaway making a prejudiced comment is not going to undo any social gains and inroads made by the gay community over the last few decades. It will, however, have a marked impact on his future marketability. The only one hurt by this was Hardaway.
TiMmY Is RiGhT Ya DiG
It opened a lot a naive people's eyes about the types of people who can be racist. Who knows what crap Michael Richards was pulling in terms of inlufencing who was and wasn't getting jobs in the industry? Now he has about zero pull.
Maybe it made a few others like Michael Richards feel more assertive about themselves but in the long run having him expose will benefit society (assuming that his views are not in line with what most people secretly think).
Gay people are disgusting!
My issue is with what he believed in, and his expression. The same prejudices ingrained in society will show in time, and that is understandable. But prejudices of few people need to be kept quiet, because they serve no purpose.
Why would a man stick his wag inside of another mans @$$hole?
Why would he want to suck on another mans genitals?
This is why I hate gay people.
Their disgusting.
Interesting thought. Most high end estimates state that 10% of the US population self-identifies as sexual. Is it reasonable to assume that the remaining 90% would be tolerant of the 10%? Possibly. What about going beyond tolerant and being supportive? That is a big leap between the two ideals. Is it correct to take our current PC assumption that the majority not only tolerates but supports the gay community and it is only fringe, hate-mongering religious fanatics that don't? To me, that would be harder to accept than knowing that there are those like Hardaway out there who are willing to vocalize their extremism.
i haven't read the entire thread but i don't support hardaway, him
he was probably raised to hate gays and taught that it was wrong and immoral but this is no worse than the ignorant white southerner who was raised and taught that blacks are inferior...just because it's a belief system doesn't make it right when it comes to stuff as personal as who you get down with
Freedom of speech is an inherent right of citizenship. When we start determining who can speak freely and who can't, then we have lost our freedoms. Ronaldo, meet George Orwell.
Ha, Tim is such an idiot.
Andat people suppoting his opinions.
The KKK and Nazis have theirs too. How much public support would they get?
Say what you want, but Tim sounds like a level 3 guy on the Allport scale. That's bigotry no matter how you spin it.
Outside of the obvious trolls, who is supporting his opinions?Ha, Tim is such an idiot.
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The KKK and Nazis have theirs too. How much public support would they get?
Say what you want, but Tim sounds like a level 3 guy on the Allport scale. That's bigotry no matter how you spin it.
Shoogar Bear wtf are you talking about with regards to mavs fans supporting Tim hardaway? I see that two mavs fans called him out and then a Spurs fan (Ducks) made the first positive comment about Hardaway and all of one Mavs fan agreed and made a comment. The other two Mavs fans were basically reiterating what Amaechi stated, that a lot of players are thinking the same thing and that honesty is the first step.
ask a woman, many have often wondered the same thing when it comes to stuff like bjs and anal
Tim Hardaway: "I regret it"
NBA Commissioner David Stern, upon learning of the remarks Wednesday, removed Hardaway from subsequent league-related appearances. "It is inappropriate for him to be representing us given the disparity between his views and ours," Stern said in a statement to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.
Hardaway has been taking part in NBA festivities ahead of Sunday's All-Star Game in Las Vegas and attended an NBA Cares outreach event at a city YMCA with Knicks forward Jerome Williams on Tuesday.
Le Ba , who also writes for ESPN The Magazine, quoted Amaechi in a Miami Herald column saying the ex-NBA player was grateful for Hardaway's words.
"Finally, someone who is honest. It is ridiculous, absurd, petty, bigoted and shows a lack of empathy that is gargantuan and unfathomable. But it is honest. And it illustrates the problem better than any of the fuzzy language other people have used so far."
Thursday morning, on ESPN Radio's Mike & Mike in the Morning, Amaechi said although the reaction to his coming out has been "overwhelmingly positive," Hardaway's comments seemed to trigger similar statements from others.
"Every comment that [Hardaway] made is labeled with hate," Amaechi said. "The percentage of e-mails I've received overnight that are going to have to go into a little box somewhere just in case I end up dead are unbelievable. He's been a lightning rod for people to finally open the floodgates and decide that they can say some pretty awful stuff."
"I will say this about the Tim Hardaway comments and the comments of people like him ... these are the loud comments that pollute the air," Amaechi said. "These are the comments that create the atmosphere that allow some of the tragic incidents of phobia that we've seen. This is what makes the lives of gay and lesbian young people in schools miserable. It's what stops gay and lesbian people in the workplace from coming out as well as the fact they can be fined in 33 states for being gay. These are part of the problem."
Hardaway, later saying he regretted the remarks, apologized for the remarks during a telephone interview with Fox affiliate WSVN-TV in Miami.
"Yes, I regret it. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said I hate gay people or anything like that," he said. "That was my mistake."
Hardaway played for five NBA teams from 1990-2003 and was a five-time All-Star. He finished with averages of 17.7 points and 8.2 assists.
On Mike & Mike on Thursday morning, Amaechi also said he was heartened by the NBA's response to Hardaway's comments.
"I think Commissioner Stern is absolutely right. ... I've been in contact with the NBA offices and it is not the views of the NBA as an organization," he said. "I don't think that people give NBA players enough credit ... some of them definitely don't agree with those views"
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a) it wasn't meant to be a serious comment
b) there were two statements, one by Flight3107 and another by mavs>spurs which apparently was deleted but was quoted by 50 Cent
c) one Mav Fan = two Mav Fan = all part of The Borg
This is pretty much what I've been trying to say.
in that case, i see. just like a spurs fan to blow stuff out of proportion, like elson's future after last night's game!
I could see if it was a woman, but it's a man. WTF? That's disgusting no other way you put it.
Elson is the next Hakeem
Elson = Dirk-Stopper
elson's going to play that way again like amaechi's going to abstain from the hot carl.in that case, i see. just like a spurs fan to blow stuff out of proportion, like elson's future after last night's game!
Speaking of which, I hope nobody goes to get a quote from Francisco about Hardaway or Amaechi.
chris childs once had sex with patrick ewing and charles oakley. guess who the taker was?
umm, a is a is a and even to a woman, that thing is not pretty...wrinkly, pink and surrounded by hairs?!?!?!??! the stuff we put up with!
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