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  1. #76
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    Amare is more than a dunker, if you bothered to watch any of the Suns games.
    Dunking - the foundation of every good basketball player.

    The Suns are on TNT 6 days a week - i can't help but watch every game. ESPN does a daily show called "Recapping the day for the legendary Phoenix Suns" in place of Sportscenter. I have yet to see evidence of him being able to do anything without a perfect pass from Nash putting him in perfect position.

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    I would take Amare over Dirk any day. Amare is more than a dunker, if you bothered to watch any of the Suns games. He has developed quite a nice jumpshot and can take people off the dribble. He is back and your team had trouble with him two years ago and he is a much more well rounded player than then.
    If your argument earlier was that the mavs wouldn't win many games without Dirk and now you're saying that you'd pick Amare over Dirk any day, then where does that leave you with all those games that the Suns lost with Amare in the game? If he's more valuable than Dirk then why not a win for the Suns? Or is he only valuable when Nash is holding his hand? Which is it?

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    you really think the suns would make it to the playoffs without nash?!?!?! am i reading this correctly?

    About the same as the Mavs would without Dirk. Do you really think the Mavs could make it to the playoffs without Dirk?? If so, both teams would probably be and 7th or 8th seed as your fellow Mavs fan pointed out. Don't think your team could be anymore dominate than the Suns without having
    Dirk since your team is also centered around him the same way we are with Nash.

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    I suppose Harold Miner is on your all-time greats team?
    I think you mean "Baby Jordan"

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    ok right, yeah, the Suns would be JUST FINE without Nash. They've proven it time and time again by getting their ass kicked when Nash is out. They prove it each time Nash comes out of the game and the other team immediately goes on a 9-0 run. They proved it with that blistering 29 win season the year before Nash came to Phoenix.

    We had a different coach at that time. Have you had to go too many games without Dirk? If so, how has your team done?

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    About the same as the Mavs would without Dirk. Do you really think the Mavs could make it to the playoffs without Dirk?? If so, both teams would probably be and 7th or 8th seed as your fellow Mavs fan pointed out. Don't think your team could be anymore dominate than the Suns without having
    Dirk since your team is also centered around him the same way we are with Nash.
    post #77

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    I think you mean "Baby Jordan"
    haha oh yeah. i forgot that nickname.

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    We had a different coach at that time. Have you had to go too many games without Dirk? If so, how has your team done?
    Not too many games without him, but this season he's been out one game and had two games where he played only 10 minutes (which i think even you'd agree is limited enough to consider him as not being a real factor in the game)....and the mavs are 3-0 in those games.

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    Back on topic, though - Amare has gotten much better at creating his own shots especially since the All-Star break. He's getting more lift on his jumper and that quick first step is back so all the onus isn't on Nash. In fact, Nash's assists have increased as a result of Amare's overall athletic improvement (i.e. defenders might cheat to Amare leaving others open or Amare is hitting more shots on passes from Nash).

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    If your argument earlier was that the mavs wouldn't win many games without Dirk and now you're saying that you'd pick Amare over Dirk any day, then where does that leave you with all those games that the Suns lost with Amare in the game? If he's more valuable than Dirk then why not a win for the Suns? Or is he only valuable when Nash is holding his hand? Which is it?

    I just prefer Amare over Dirk, plain and simple. I like power players like Amare more than Dirk type players. At least he doesn't flop his way to the freethrow line like Dirk. It is almost like watching the Kings in the past with Vlade. It is pretty pathetic the way he has to throw his arms out like he is being killed. If you are down on floppers you have no further to look than your own team.

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    Not too many games without him, but this season he's been out one game and had two games where he played only 10 minutes (which i think even you'd agree is limited enough to consider him as not being a real factor in the game)....and the mavs are 3-0 in those games.

    What teams did you play besides the depleted Nuggets?

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    Back on topic, though - Amare has gotten much better at creating his own shots especially since the All-Star break. He's getting more lift on his jumper and that quick first step is back so all the onus isn't on Nash. In fact, Nash's assists have increased as a result of Amare's overall athletic improvement (i.e. defenders might cheat to Amare leaving others open or Amare is hitting more shots on passes from Nash).

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    What teams did you play besides the depleted Nuggets?
    you mean like the Hawks?

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    Oh, and Amare is starting to get assists which makes him even more dangerous than in the past. He is turning into a well rounded player as of late.

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    you mean like the Hawks?

    Don't think Dirk was injured when you played the Hawks, so which teams were they?

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    I really want the Hawks to finish with the 12th best record in the east or something, so that leaves them with a decent chance of getting a 6-14 pick, but rare possibility of being in the top 3. In fact, I salivate with every college game I watch for who might be added next year.

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    I love how Mexico says "back on topic" and starts sucking on Amare in a thread re: Reggie Miller and the Mavs.

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    I just prefer Amare over Dirk, plain and simple. I like power players like Amare more than Dirk type players. At least he doesn't flop his way to the freethrow line like Dirk. It is almost like watching the Kings in the past with Vlade. It is pretty pathetic the way he has to throw his arms out like he is being killed. If you are down on floppers you have no further to look than your own team.
    As long as it's rewarded, all good players do that...it's why Amare got to the line 17 times the other night. It's called being demonstrative to insure that you get the call, doesn't mean the call was necessarily bad...look at those fouls in slo-mo and you'll see that in most (of course not all) instances, the call was good. The only superstar who doesn't do this much is Nash, which is something I've already discussed with RonMexico.

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    I really want the Hawks to finish with the 12th best record in the east or something, so that leaves them with a decent chance of getting a 6-14 pick, but rare possibility of being in the top 3. In fact, I salivate with every college game I watch for who might be added next year.

    Me too!

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    What teams did you play besides the depleted Nuggets?
    They beat Toronto and Seattle when Dirk played almost none of the game. Oh yeah, the same Seattle team that beat the Suns by 24 when Nash was out.

    Funny how now the Nuggets become "depleted". Although having both Camby and the "superstar" Iverson in the game would hardly mean that they were depleted. I'm sure every time Nash was out, the other team played the best game in the history of their franchise. I'm sure those Atlanta Hawks all coincidentally played the game of their lives in order to win. That's why the Suns lost.

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    Don't think Dirk was injured when you played the Hawks, so which teams were they?
    omfg, you didn't get that? mavs w/o dirk playing the nuggets (with AI) is basically a wash when compared to suns w/o nash playing the hawks

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    As long as it's rewarded, all good players do that...it's why Amare got to the line 17 times the other night. It's called being demonstrative to insure that you get the call, doesn't mean the call was necessarily bad...look at those fouls in slo-mo and you'll see that in most (of course not all) instances, the call was good. The only superstar who doesn't do this much is Nash, which is something I've already discussed with RonMexico.

    Amare doesn't act like Dirk at all. He doesn't flop to the ground and throw out his arms like he is being killed. He just powers it up and makes the shot and doesn't hope the refs bail him out. In reference to Nash, he is probably the only player that doesn't get to the freethrow line much, even though he drives to the basket more often than one might think. He doesn't get the same respect as some other players in this area.

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    You Mavs fans probably saw a good example of what the Suns are missing last night: Joe Johnson - he played decent defense, but was able to create his own shot, which is missing on this team right now.

    Diaw has the capability if he comes back with a vengance but not when he is passive.

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    Amare is sensitive in the balls

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    You Mavs fans probably saw a good example of what the Suns are missing last night: Joe Johnson - he played decent defense, but was able to create his own shot, which is missing on this team right now.

    Diaw has the capability if he comes back with a vengance but not when he is passive.

    IMO, Joe Johnson > Diaw....i think it was a mistake to give him up

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