Respect...

[dieman8686]

Can you read?

so a comment cant be an arguement? Your persuading someone that Davis qualifies as a good or great denfender in the Pg category when healty. Persuading=argumentation.

[Flight3107]

then by your "stats" harris has to be one of the top 3 defenders in the league

Where in the did this come from and how does that stat show harris is "one of the top 3 defenders in the league"

the mavs play team defense, thats what get the opp scoring so low, not harris shutting everyone down

Sure the Mavs play "team defense", im not sure what team does not play "team defense". It just so happens that the Mavs have the best defensive PG in the WC.

also, tony parker 3pt % wise is #2 on the spurs at 44%

Im not sure where the you are going with this?

oh, and devin harris isn't that good of a defender

You're just a hater

[dieman8686]

Wow I guess you did fall for it lol....
the "emoticon" is exactly what made ths special... no more for me

[THE SIXTH MAN]

so a comment cant be an arguement? Your persuading someone that Davis qualifies as a good or great denfender in the Pg category when healty. Persuading=argumentation.

Well I'll help you out on your spelling too then

Looks like you need help spelling.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

look, according to your stats when Harris is on the floor the mavs are at their best defensively


so I brought up the TP example because stats don't necessarily tell the whole story (unless your Hollinger) So if TP is the #2 3 point shooter on one of the five best 3 point shooting teams in the league, he therefore must be considered a 3 point threat. Now tell me honestly, do you think most teams look at the scouting report and go "man, I got TP tonight, I better keep up closely guarded at the 3 point line"

I didn't think so


By that same token, you think when Harris is on anyone they go " , i got Harris on me, I better change my offensive strategy or I"m not gonna get any buckets"

All teams play team defense, but there is absolutely no way the effect Harris has is on the same level as a Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan, Ben Wallace, or Ron Artest.


I'm not a hater, you're just a homer

[Flight3107]

"Emoticons" wont win an argument for you.

[dieman8686]

Four people, including me, commenting and arguing about non-sense...
When I win the lottery... sure got to Sixth Man , hey I was tired from work needed a bit cheering up, thx Sixth man!
and the densive of harris b/w Amuse and Flight

[dieman8686]

"Emoticons" wont win an argument for you.

Thank you man

[dieman8686]

Looks like you need help spelling.

I'll let the spelling sarcasm up to you to find, thx for pointing out my typo by the way

[THE SIXTH MAN]

That's it...okay..
Well I'll help you out on your spelling too then ...emoticons(icons? ).
you have used that word over and over, so it wasn't a typo, I guess thats how you see it
come come on respoond to this sarcasm (lol)

A smiley is a sequence of characters on your computer keyboard. If you don't see it, try tilting your head to the left -- the colon represents the eyes, the dash represents the nose and the right parenthesis represents the mouth. Smileys usually follow after the punctuation (or in place of the punctuation) at the end of a sentence. A smiley tells someone what you really mean when you make an offhand remark. They are also called emoticons because they intend to convey emotion!

http://www.netlingo.com/smiley.cfm

[THE SIXTH MAN]

"Emoticons" wont win an argument for you.

I guess the two of you cant read, because it wasn't an argument.

[dieman8686]

http://www.netlingo.com/smiley.cfm

dude don't you get it....and you went out and got the definition for me, how nice of you .
I know what emoticons are guess you don't understand things, I won't explain, I'm hungry, but keep reading it and after it : )
Go for you 1.3k post while you try to comprehend things
sarcasm was..
{edit}
bah you will take too long
your posts= that of emoticons[ input your definition link here] which was just a jerker since you get so riled up for nonsense...

FYI Im out

[Flight3107]

look, according to your stats when Harris is on the floor the mavs are at their best defensively

I ABSOLUTLEY said that

so I brought up the TP example because stats don't necessarily tell the whole story (unless your Hollinger) So if TP is the #2 3 point shooter on one of the five best 3 point shooting teams in the league, he therefore must be considered a 3 point threat. Now tell me honestly, do you think most teams look at the scouting report and go "man, I got TP tonight, I better keep up closely guarded at the 3 point line"

I didn't think so

I NEVER said that because Devin Harris is the best defender on the Mavs Who are one of the five best defensive teams he must be considered a top 3 defender.

Now you are putting words in my mouth.


I simply stated that Devin Harris is the best defensive PG in the WC

By that same token, you think when Harris is on anyone they go " , i got Harris on me, I better change my offensive strategy or I"m not gonna get any buckets"

I really dont remember typing that either


You are putting words in my mouth again

All teams play team defense, but there is absolutely no way the effect Harris has is on the same level as a Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan, Ben Wallace, or Ron Artest.

Did I say Harris was a better defender than Duncan, Wallace, or Artest?

I'm not a hater, you're just a homer

How so?

Who is a better defensive PG in the WC than Devin Harris

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I ABSOLUTLEY said that




I NEVER said that because Devin Harris is the best defender on the Mavs Who are one of the five best defensive teams he must be considered a top 3 defender.

Now you are putting words in my mouth.


I simply stated that Devin Harris is the best defensive PG in the WC




I really dont remember typing that either


You are putting words in my mouth again




How so?

Who is a better defensive PG in the WC than Devin Harris

Baron Davis

[THE SIXTH MAN]

dude don't you get it....and you went out and got the definition for me, how nice of you .
I know what emoticons are guess you don't understand things, I won't explain, I'm hungry, but keep reading it and after it : )
Go for you 1.3k post while you try to comprehend things

FYI Im out

You must be the kind of person that laughs at his own jokes when nobody else will. I got it, but I didn't think it was funny, just because your mom finds you amusing doesn't mean everybody else will. Keep on patrolling the Internets.

[Flight3107]

Baron Davis

What in the would make you think Baron Davis is a better defender than Devin Harris "Other than your hate toward the Mavs".

[Amuseddaysleeper]

What in the would make you think Baron Davis is a better defender than Devin Harris "Other than your hate toward the Mavs".

because he's much more phsyical and harder to score against


no one has problems scoring on harris


he fouls a lot

I've seen Davis harrass players whereas Harris does well drawing charges but isn't gonna truly bother anyone on his defensive end


plus, i'm not the only one who thinks Davis is a better defender, he's been mentione dbefore in this thread

take off the homer glasses

[Flight3107]

because he's much more phsyical and harder to score against

He is more physical, I will give you that.

no one has problems scoring on harris

I guess Hamilton going 5-13 today was a fluke

he fouls a lot

Devin Harris averages 3.0 PF's a game
Baron Davis averages 3.15 PF's a game

I've seen Davis harrass players whereas Harris does well drawing charges but isn't gonna truly bother anyone on his defensive end

I now know you dont watch many Mavs games

plus, i'm not the only one who thinks Davis is a better defender, he's been mentione dbefore in this thread

By one other person, and he really did not even say Davis was a better defender.

take off the homer glasses

Take off the hater glasses

[Amuseddaysleeper]

i watch a fair share of Mavs games as I have nba league pass


hamilton goin 5-13 was a fluke, he rarely shoots that poorly

I bet you're gonna give Harris credit for Rip missing those FT's since harris was obviously in is head so much


you almost never hear a player commenting on harris's defense from the opposing team

Also, in regards to the fouls scenario between Davis and Harris, Harris only plays 25.4 minutes per game. If his defense is so good, and is the reason for the team holding opp below 90 ppg, then send the word along to avery cuz I'd sure as would want that player on the court more......too bad he average 3 fouls per game on such a minutes per game total

on the other hand, Davis average 36.1 mpg and leads his team in minutes played. he plays nearly 11 minutes more, yet contributes only .15 more fouls per game than harris.


If harris played that many minutes in a game he'd probably have 4-5 fouls minimum sending him back to the bench and *shudder* ruining the Mavs defensive schemes

[Lp26]

I guess Hamilton going 5-13 today was a fluke

Hamilton has been shooting awful lately. Check the stats for his last few games. He was being guarded by Ray Allen and he shot even worse in the SEA game. He's in some sort of mini-slump, and has been for awhile . . .

Devin Harris isn't a Bruce Bowen level defender. I'd have a hard time even comparing him to Raja Bell . . .

And i'll cosign Baron Davis as being better.

A good defender understands angles, how to make a shot difficult, knows how to use his hands and feet, understands where the player's sweet spots are, fights for position, bothers and intimidates the shooter . . .

Harris falls down.

The two really can't be compared.

[Flight3107]

i watch a fair share of Mavs games as I have nba league pass

You obviously dont pay attention to Harris

hamilton goin 5-13 was a fluke, he rarely shoots that poorly

Somehow I expected you to say that

I bet you're gonna give Harris credit for Rip missing those FT's since harris was obviously in is head so much

you almost never hear a player commenting on harris's defense from the opposing team

Well then, I guess that seals it.

Also, in regards to the fouls scenario between Davis and Harris, Harris only plays 25.4 minutes per game. If his defense is so good, and is the reason for the team holding opp below 90 ppg, then send the word along to avery cuz I'd sure as would want that player on the court more......too bad he average 3 fouls per game on such a minutes per game total

Mind showing me where I said that? You sure like putting words in my mouth.

And if you watched the Mavs you would know that Avery likes going big.

If harris played that many minutes in a game he'd probably have 4-5 fouls minimum sending him back to the bench and *shudder* ruining the Mavs defensive schemes

Now you are assuming

[Flight3107]

Hamilton has been shooting awful lately. Check the stats for his last few games. He was being guarded by Ray Allen and he shot even worse in the SEA game. He's in some sort of mini-slump, and has been for awhile . . .

Devin Harris isn't a Bruce Bowen level defender. I'd have a hard time even comparing him to Raja Bell . . .

And i'll cosign Baron Davis as being better.

A good defender understands angles, how to make a shot difficult, knows how to use his hands and feet, understands where the player's sweet spots are, fights for position, bothers and intimidates the shooter . . .

Harris falls down.

The two really can't be compared.

I expected you to say that because Harris did just school your team yesterday.

[Lp26]

You won by 4, our SG who shoots near 90% missed 5FT's, and our best player was out. If that's called getting schooled; I wonder what a blowout would be like for your team . . .

And just look at the stats, they don't lie. Your a big stats guy right? Hamilton has been shooting awful. In fact along w/ stats i can post an article that was in the newspaper about Hamilton's recent shooting slump.

I love how when you have no response, you resort to just spouting nonsense

[himat]

This is just too funny.

Keep getting drunk dumbass. All you say is the same thing over and over again.

[monosylab1k]

This is enjoyable.

If you could read I said "today". I have not watched the whole Mavs season so I don't know if Harris plays defense like that all the time, but today he was.

So you admit you don't watch enough Mavs basketball to know how good of a defender Harris is...

I can name a lot of better defensive guards.

PG's: Jason Kidd, Chauncey Billups, Kirk Hinrich, Charlie Bell, Mike James, Sam Cassell, and Earl Watson.

I could name more too if I checked up some names.

....yet you can easily name a bunch of PG's better than Harris. Just one post after admitting you don't watch the Mavericks enough to know how good of a defender Harris is, you're creating a big ass list of better defenders. Talk out your ass much?