Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3

[monosylab1k]

Last season Stack shot 40% from the field and 34% from 3 during the playoffs, along with sub-80% free throw shooting. Finley? 48% and 38%, and 90% from the line.

The season before: 38%, 40%, 86% for Stack; 42%, 39%, 89% for Finley.

Neither of them plays any defense or creates anything for their teammates, so I'm taking into consideration their skill as finishers. And as a finisher, whenever the pressure is on, Stack is a guy opposing coaches have to love. That Avery Johnson also loves Stack is an ongoing mystery.

Again, spoken like a guy who didn't watch the playoffs. There's no doubt Stackhouse has his flaws (especially when he forgets he's a 6th man and thinks he's a star)....but to say that Finley is more clutch and could outplay Stack at this stage of their careers....well that's said by somebody who wants to look at shot percentages to base their beliefs.

[Dalhoop]

It's not so much about Tony not being clutch, it's about the fact that he had just started (and still is) improving as a shooter. Mavs took away his driving lanes and he can't do much. He's been much more consistent this year, so this postseason should be a good indicator of his actual clutchness.

The question was wether Parker was a "clutch" as Terry .... The answer was that Terry hit the shots that Parker didn't ... Now you can make excuses about defense and everything else, but clutch is clutch reguardless of defense.

Your reasoning that he is more clutch because "this postseason should be a good indicator" Means nothing, until it happens ... Or doesn't.

[Bob Lanier]

Again, spoken like a guy who didn't watch the playoffs.

I watched the playoffs. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've watched every NBA playoff game Jerry Stackhouse has ever played, and most of Finley's, as well.

For example, I distinctly remember watching Stack losing Game 1 of the Spurs series for you.

[monosylab1k]

I watched the playoffs. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've watched every NBA playoff game Jerry Stackhouse has ever played, and most of Finley's, as well.

For example, I distinctly remember watching Stack losing Game 2 of the Spurs series for you.

LOL the Mavs won game 2. Game Over. Enjoy your night.

[Dalhoop]

Stack is better the Finley. Many times this year when the Mavs were facing an opposing run, AJ would put in Stackhouse because if there is one thing that he WILL DO, its get to the rim for a hard shot AND FOUL. He not afread of contact in any way, shape, or form.

He has broken more opposing runs then any other Mav. Can you say that about Finley? This by the way is on top of everything else that he does.

[FromWayDowntown]

LOL the Mavs won game 2. Game Over. Enjoy your night.

He did make a horrendous decision at the end of Game 1.

[monosylab1k]

He did make a horrendous decision at the end of Game 1.

No doubt about that....but that guy DISTINCTLY remembered Stackhouse ing up to lose game TWO.

That is, before he decided to fix his mistake

[Dalhoop]

He did make a horrendous decision at the end of Game 1.

So I guess that puts him on the same level as Manu? Everyone has a bad moment, Stack has more good then bad, he hasn't vanished for weeks at a time like Finley has this year

[mardigan]

Well I think its pretty obvious that Stack definately has more in the tank than Fin, but I still trust Fin will make a couple of big shots in the playoffs for us. But Stack is definately the better player at this point of his career

[sprrs]

The question was wether Parker was a "clutch" as Terry .... The answer was that Terry hit the shots that Parker didn't ... Now you can make excuses about defense and everything else, but clutch is clutch reguardless of defense.

Your reasoning that he is more clutch because "this postseason should be a good indicator" Means nothing, until it happens ... Or doesn't.

Mavs fan.....living in the past? WTF?

[stretch]

It's not so much about Tony not being clutch, it's about the fact that he had just started (and still is) improving as a shooter. Mavs took away his driving lanes and he can't do much. He's been much more consistent this year, so this postseason should be a good indicator of his actual clutchness.

what the does that have to do with anything? if he cant shoot, then thats his problem. thats the stupidest excuse ive ever ing heard. its as stupid as saying something like, Shaq was great because he would have been greater if he knew how to shoot. makes no sense whatsoever.

[gilmor]

Dirk better than Duncan?

I mean I know Dirk makes his jump shots, but please. Matt Bonner has more basketball moves than Dirk.

Dirk made you all do this last June

Actually, that was Wade.

U are so full of .. why don't u just shut the up!

Dirk >>> Bonner

[itzsoweezee]

mavs don't have a "big 3." dirk and josh howard. that's it. the rest alright, but none are at the level of manu or tony.

[mardigan]

mavs don't have a "big 3." dirk and josh howard. that's it. the rest alright, but none are at the level of manu or tony.

Jason Terry averages just as many points as Manu, so how could manu be in a big 3 but not Terry?

[itzsoweezee]

Jason Terry averages just as many points as Manu, so how could manu be in a big 3 but not Terry?

1) terry plays 8 more minutes a game
2) manu is a much much bigger threat to the opposing team. terry would never get the kind of attention manu gets
3) manu's impact and brilliance on any game transcends any stats.
4) manu's been an all-star, chosen by the coaches. terry hasn't

[mardigan]

The only argument that holds weight is the minutes, the rest is just your opinion, except the all star, which is still just opinion. I think Terry can be just as dangerous as Manu, especially at the end of the game

[sprrs]

what the does that have to do with anything? if he cant shoot, then thats his problem. thats the stupidest excuse ive ever ing heard. its as stupid as saying something like, Shaq was great because he would have been greater if he knew how to shoot. makes no sense whatsoever.

When you focus your entire defense on stopping a point guard who's only strength is driving into the lane, saying he dissapears because he doesn't have the mental toughness to be a game finisher is ridiculous.

And to bring my argument down to your level:

[itzsoweezee]

The only argument that holds weight is the minutes, the rest is just your opinion, except the all star, which is still just opinion. I think Terry can be just as dangerous as Manu, especially at the end of the game

at the very least, terry isn't as good as manu for two reasons. of course, in reality, manu is better than terry for more than just two reasons. but at least we've established now that terry isn't on manu's level.

[mardigan]

at the very least, terry isn't as good as manu for two reasons. of course, in reality, manu is better than terry for more than just two reasons. but at least we've established now that terry isn't on manu's level.

I dont think that he is as good as Manu, Im a Spurs fan for s sake, Im just saying that Terry is a huge part of the mavs team, and to say that he isnt one of their big three doesnt make a lot of sense to me

[itzsoweezee]

I dont think that he is as good as Manu, Im a Spurs fan for s sake, Im just saying that Terry is a huge part of the mavs team, and to say that he isnt one of their big three doesnt make a lot of sense to me

the reason i say that is, if the mavs' big 3 are more consistent as a unit on offense, its more b/c they've got a big 2 and a good role player. it's a lot harder for three all-star caliber scorers to play well together on offense.

[Udrihlooms]

I mean I know Dirk makes his jump shots, but please. Matt Bonner has more basketball moves than Dirk.

This post truly deserves an outstanding award.

What's next? Udrih better than Harris?

So are you starting that "Bonner for MVP" chant?

[stretch]

When you focus your entire defense on stopping a point guard who's only strength is driving into the lane, saying he dissapears because he doesn't have the mental toughness to be a game finisher is ridiculous.

And to bring my argument down to your level:

i dont think that was the mavs entire defensive focus. all i said, and the fact is, is that Terry made big plays, while Parker did not.

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[SpursDynasty]

I NEVER SAID MATT BONNER WAS BETTER THAN DIRK.

I said he has more moves than just a fadeaway jump shot, which doesn't say a lot. Most players do more than just shoot. Having more moves doesn't make a player better. I just said that to emphasize that Dirk is boring to watch, except when he's losing.

[Udrihlooms]

I NEVER SAID MATT BONNER WAS BETTER THAN DIRK.

I said he has more moves than just a fadeaway jump shot, which doesn't say a lot. Most players do more than just shoot. Having more moves doesn't make a player better. I just said that to emphasize that Dirk is boring to watch, except when he's losing.

ah ok... but you know what? call me stupid, but i've always found Tim duncan more interesting to watch than any of Vince Carter's team. Carter has probably a million times more move than Tim's.

Be objective. If you really want an interesting team, root for Phoenix. Spurs may be too boring for most people. Actually Tim has fewer moves than Dirk, but that doesn't make Tim really boring.

[z0sa]

Actually Tim has fewer moves than Dirk