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    Proud Silver Medalist Doug Collins's Avatar
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    Aren't A&M's hoop facilities fairly new?
    Brand new, with renovation plans already approved and a new $20 million practice facility that has already broke ground.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Aren't A&M's hoop facilities fairly new?
    Didn't mean ATM's sucked, just saying ours are better.

    Like, my car is cooler than yours type thing.

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    Proud Silver Medalist Doug Collins's Avatar
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    Man you have some sort of physco-babble mixed with deep love for ATM.

    I won't go off on that simply because you seem to love your school like I mine and see your coach is being considered only you are close to the wrong scool. I would physco mute the world too..

    Anyways. You have to understand Arkansas politics before you make rash judgements on it's school. No matter what magni ued your state is to us you can't base your facts off assumptions. This state is like one huge city. We have crackheads and crackhouses like everyone else but people here are true to their roots. Not like 'sippi where they bread with it. Johnny Cash said Arkansas is a family, and if you're not in it you don't get it (born here) but my point is we have a world dominating booster in Walmart, beautiful facilities, tradional deep rooted fans and loads of respect in the south. Only one things matters in this type of situation and that's A&M vs UA sports programs. History we have had more success in a wider span and both suffer from 2nd place diseases under Texas. We basically came from the same exsistance, fought many similiar wars on the field but we have more on the court, by far. And specifically Bud Walton Arena, 40 mintues of , although dead still stand head and shoulders above anything A&M basketball has accomplished on the court. Point is you guys are good now, but haven't 'been there' before. We offer more of everything for the most part for Billy Gilly in the basketball ranks and no matter how corrups or biased our school is currently money talks louder than rumors and ultimately it doesn't matter what he chooses, it's the fact Arkansas does have the power to come in and take him.

    From my perspective we will not get Bill. He is as subject as A&M basketball itself. The fans of their basketball program have been around how long? I mean I understand there's dedication but a lot of it might be a cover and bandwagon like in basketball since it hasn't exsisted long. Law should be in the NBA just like Brewer did, Johnson, Williamson, Moncrief, Brewer Sr. My thoughts are we can land a top name with what we offer no matter what.

    People have to understand though right now, even names like Nolan Richardson and Roy Williams are rumored. The whole thing is ludacris and most of it is a laugh or a dream. Bill is something like the median, Arkansas is simply extended the tenticles it has in landing who they want cause ultimately, no matter what the majority of Arkansas fans want the university will get who THEY want, period. After Nolan, taking Heath was like a snap decision to me, he just put Kent State in the final four off of pure lucky March crap when he hadn't proven any consistancy at all. Given he is young and needs time we should have let him stay at Kent or whatever smaller school to build a better resume cause despite how good he talks and our recruiting classes kicking ass, he cannot bench coach. And that's what you're getting paid to do right?

    Arkansas is indefinetly corrupt until Broyles is gone. Right now I think he is trying to produce a good thing for us by obviously talking to Bill about the job. Cause that has happened. Before Frank leaves on Dec. 31st and 50 years in cardinal red and white, he is leaving. He wants to do something good for us, and firing Heath was a start, and he will do everything he can to land a big time coach for us before he leaves to win back the fans. It has a good chance of not even happening, but he is trying at least. He could go further by firing Nutt but you don't mix stories like basketball in football, that's why there's different coaches and players obviously. Boosters are biased, they like who they like and sometimes not what the fans agree with either.

    Right now anything is possible to be honest, you don't know what to expect from the UA right now other than traditionalism hahahahahaha til Frank is gone.
    I'm sorry the whole situation just pisses me off, and living here and hearing it 24/7 is making me go crazy.

    I still cant stand the amount of pro-Razorback propaganda that proliferates this state.

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    Proud Silver Medalist Doug Collins's Avatar
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    Didn't mean ATM's sucked, just saying ours are better.

    Like, my car is cooler than yours type thing.

    I love that the Waltons will build a basketball arena yet not provide their employees adequate health benefits.
    Last edited by Doug Collins; 03-26-2007 at 06:31 PM.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I'm sorry the whole situation just pisses me off, and living here and hearing it 24/7 is making me go crazy.

    I still cant stand the amount of pro-Razorback propaganda that proliferates this state.
    I could talk about it all day haha. Hogs tradition is rich and deep. Right now half of UA fans are in ' it' mode so try not to listen to our media, they're just as corrupt right now.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I love that the Waltons will build a basketall arena yet not give their employees adequate health benefits.
    yeah it's called big business, and 90% of them you over. what's new? seems like employee's here are happy ironically

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I think no matter what happens Texas A&M Aggies .....

    know that Arkansas Razorbacks' thank you. We are not looked at as Texas' anymore. (even though you have beat them in fb/bb lately)

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    I could talk about it all day haha. Hogs tradition is rich and deep. Right now half of UA fans are in ' it' mode so try not to listen to our media, they're just as corrupt right now.

    Whats with that Wally guy who writes for the Fayetteville paper? I've never seen a more biased sports journalist in my life. I almost wanted to write him when he was ing about how Ark deserved to be in the tourney a couple weeks ago.

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    Well, j-6, I have a feeling that A&M thinks Billy can bring some glory to this program... and apparently, so does Arkansas. Just because Alford and Smith jumped ship for less pay and maybe a more inviting fanbase doesn't mean you have to rip on A&M and Gillespie and act like that's a ridiculous amount of money.
    The only way A&M pays Gillispie that much money is to beat an Arkansas (or for all I ing know, Kentucky) offer along the same lines. Why double the man's salary when a raise, some added incentives, and a visible commitment to the program will do?

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Whats with that Wally guy who writes for the Fayetteville paper? I've never seen a more biased sports journalist in my life. I almost wanted to write him when he was ing about how Ark deserved to be in the tourney a couple weeks ago.
    Wally Hall is a crazy man. He has seen it all at this school and switches sides all the time. He is hypocritical and a very stupid person in general. No real Hogs fan takes him seriously with praise or with insult.

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    That's more than Tubby was making at UK (and more than Coach K, Pitino, or Donovan), or put another way, more than Franchione's current salary.
    Tubby was making 2.5 million a year, and with other perks it was north of 3 million per.

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    Well I keep hearing "insiders" saying BCG is going to Arkansas for sure.
    Then I hear other "insiders" saying BCG is going to stay at A&M for sure.

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    Proud Silver Medalist Doug Collins's Avatar
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    Well I keep hearing "insiders" saying BCG is going to Arkansas for sure.
    Then I hear other "insiders" saying BCG is going to stay at A&M for sure.
    Basically no one knows. Check out the article that was just posted

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    Basically no one knows. Check out the article that was just posted
    ah ok thanks
    if BCG leaves though
    i might just jump off a bridge

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    One thing's for sure. He wasn't in Arkansas today. And neither was his agent.

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    Proud Silver Medalist Doug Collins's Avatar
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    One thing's for sure. He wasn't in Arkansas today. And neither was his agent.

    Yeah. I just think this state (arkansas) is full of idiots.

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    HAHA - I'm slightly relieved and I want to laugh in Brutalis's face... but I guess that would make me too "arrogant" to believe he'd stay at A&M...

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    It's like this: If he leaves you shouldn't be surprised. If he stays, I won't be. Try to understand.

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    It's like this: If he leaves you shouldn't be surprised. If he stays, I won't be. Try to understand.
    Way to go out on a limb.

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    I have it figured out. Seriously.

    Who is Arky's big rival? UK.

    Who is UK going after? bcg

    If they jump on board 1st and put out all kinds of silly poop about bcg, then atm will obviously step up even before it goes down with UK and make his package bigger.

    Thus writes him out of the picture for UK and he will stay at atm.

    This was all a ploy by arKy to keep bcg from going to UK.

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    HAHA - I'm slightly relieved and I want to laugh in Brutalis's face... but I guess that would make me too "arrogant" to believe he'd stay at A&M...
    The more I think about it, the more I believe that Gillispie should stay. From a legacy standpoint, wouldn't Billy rather establish a program where he created whatever expectations are there rahter than a bunch of artificially inflated ones brought on by a unforgiving fanbase?

    When (and if, you overzealous Ags) Gillispie reaches the Elite Eight or the Final Four while coaching the Aggies, it will mean something. Arkansas has witnessed that kind of success and feels en led to more of it. It's not fair, but watch what a meltdown this place would turn into if the Spurs tanked against some random skidmark int he NBA's opening round of the playoffs.

    They'd be calling for his head in Fayetteville if he managed to bring his team into the tournament the last two years and lost twice in the first round. The Ags could lose in the first round the next two seasons and the powers that be in College Station would still forgive him.


    it, I'd stay put.

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    The more I think about it, the more I believe that Gillispie should stay. From a legacy standpoint, wouldn't Billy rather establish a program where he created whatever expectations are there rahter than a bunch of artificially inflated ones brought on by a unforgiving fanbase?

    When (and if, you overzealous Ags) Gillispie reaches the Elite Eight or the Final Four while coaching the Aggies, it will mean something. Arkansas has witnessed that kind of success and feels en led to more of it. It's not fair, but watch what a meltdown this place would turn into if the Spurs tanked against some random skidmark int he NBA's opening round of the playoffs.

    They'd be calling for his head in Fayetteville if he managed to bring his team into the tournament the last two years and lost twice in the first round. The Ags could lose in the first round the next two seasons and the powers that be in College Station would still forgive him.


    it, I'd stay put.
    Exactly, you said it perfectly. Not only that, I think he really believes in his kids (or at least I hope he does) and he'd want to go down as a Lute Olsen type of coach... a guy who built a program from the ground up and has done so by grabbing guys who weren't all 4-and-5 star recruits, but guys whose heart, determination, and will mirror his own.

    Bottom line: Acie Law is an outstanding talent and a great guy, but Billy Gillispie turned him into an All-American. Look at that AA list from this year and you have 2 of the most hyped freshmen of all time (Durant and Oden), two guys who were probably 4 star recruits at least (Afflalo and Tucker), and then the wiry guy with a weird shot from Dallas (a 3-star recruit, btw).

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    The more I think about it, the more I believe that Gillispie should stay. From a legacy standpoint, wouldn't Billy rather establish a program where he created whatever expectations are there rahter than a bunch of artificially inflated ones brought on by a unforgiving fanbase?

    When (and if, you overzealous Ags) Gillispie reaches the Elite Eight or the Final Four while coaching the Aggies, it will mean something. Arkansas has witnessed that kind of success and feels en led to more of it. It's not fair, but watch what a meltdown this place would turn into if the Spurs tanked against some random skidmark int he NBA's opening round of the playoffs.

    They'd be calling for his head in Fayetteville if he managed to bring his team into the tournament the last two years and lost twice in the first round. The Ags could lose in the first round the next two seasons and the powers that be in College Station would still forgive him.


    it, I'd stay put.
    Agreed....plus he would have to live in Arkansas....


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    The Ags could lose in the first round the next two seasons and the powers that be in College Station would still forgive him.
    I wouldn't be so sure about that. They are getting a taste now, and are slowly building an expectation as well. Don't underestimate how quickly a fanbase can become spoiled.

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    I wouldn't be so sure about that. They are getting a taste now, and are slowly building an expectation as well. Don't underestimate how quickly a fanbase can become spoiled.
    Well, not exactly... while a lot of us thought this year's team had Final 4 potential (and , they outplayed Memphis for 39 mins of that game), in no way do we think they "underachieved." They came up short and this will go down as one of the greatest and best-loved teams in A&M history. We won't be satisfied with first round exits for multiple years, but we won't be calling for BCG's head either.

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