Kobe's absolutely incredible. There's no denying it - he's the most talented player in the NBA by a wide margin. Lebron is a distant 2nd in my opinion.
But it doesn't mean he deserves MVP this year (though he should definitely get serious consideration now), and it doesn't even come close to meaning that he's better than Jordan.
I wasn't comparing him to Jordan, dumbass.Jordan averaged 53.8% for a season, which means he was shooting what when he was hot? 60%? 62%?
But if you can't appreciate the guy, that's on you.
It's not like he's doing nothing else, he's averaging 6rpg and 5 apg too.
Kobe's flop into T-Mac while shooting the three was LA's downfall. There was no reason to pull such a stupid tactic. T-Mac was building another wing on Staples with his bricks and to foul him on a 3 point attempt like that was just plain stupid. If Kobe had just played straight up defense instead of trying to bait the officials into a call on Yao the Lakers most likely have the "W".
Kobe should learn from T-Mac on how to shoot a high percentage ... T-Mac was 7-24 (29%) to get his 30 points.
Stop hating on the guy. He was incredible last night. He went on a personal 10-12 point run to get the Lakers back in the game and hit that ridiculous 3-pointer to tie it after that Kwame Brown miss. It wasn't like his teammates were on fire. They weren't Kobe may have shot 43% from the field, but the rest of the team shot 38% from the field.
Part of being a great player is accepting your shortcomings.
After his 5 step travel he looks at the ref like it was the most ridiculous call ever. Kobmes sense of en lement is gagging.
After the final horn he did his stupid leer at the ref, as if it was the ref who cost the mighty Kobe his chance to be the hero. Lame.
"I think he did travel," Jackson said. "They made the correct call. But a lot of times they don't make that call in that situation.'
Said Bryant: "They can make that call any time of the day."
^^^ Is this the Kobester owning up or is he being sarcastic?
Beyond his pamperedness he is incredible on some of those 3s. No way would i have let him have that final attempt. Foul before the shot all the way.
Last edited by Fabbs; 03-31-2007 at 10:40 AM.
Chill. I wasn't aiming my comments directly at you, either. I wasn't even attempting to argue with you. To be honest, I'm just sick of hearing about Kobe, how he's better than Jordan, how the Lakers have no shot unless he gets 50 a game, etc.
I appreciate his game to an extent. What he's doing is amazing. I just think it's a travesty that this little scoring binge has everyone putting him in the same category as the GoaT.
What T-Mac did was unimpressive, but then again T-Mac didn't bestow it upon himself to take 50% of his team's shots.
In regards to the second comment, why yes, his teammates did shoot a poor percentage. Do you know how many of them took more than 9 shots besides Kobe? Zero.
I don't know if you've ever played basketball, but when you shoot 9 or fewer times in a game, it's extremely hard to find your rhythm, especially if you're a very good player like Odom who's used to getting more touches.
Perhaps the most telling stat: Despite the fact that he had the ball nearly the entire game, Kobe didn't even take the most free throws: Yao did, then T-Mac. Who else? 9 shot man Lamar Odom. Kobe shot poorly -and- didn't make an effort to get to the line. Just a horrible game in my opinion on his part, yet we have another thread mostly praising how dominant he was, in a loss.
I KNOW some of you on these boards have played ball with a guy who thinks he needs to score every trip down the court. It isn't fun, it even makes you forget about the desire to win, at times. It's hard to make a good effort when you know you're just essentially watching offensive possessions. Luke took 6 shots tonight -- how is his confidence going to be come playoff time with that kind of opportunity?
Kobe's an incredible player, and what he's doing hasn't been done in a long, long time. But he's so good that his teammates are becoming spectators on the court, and (IMO) that can never be a good thing for a team, ever.
yes kobe traveled, no tmac shouldn't have gone to the line to shoot those 3 fts, not when a moving screen should've been called on yao before the foul on tmac by kobe
kobe's performance last night was much more impressive than tmac's...yao was great as well
kobe haters are hilarious when they try to *reason* and *argue* why his stats shouldn't be lauded
Kobe and T-Mac were off last night. Kobe though caught on fire just in time to take it to overtime. Otherwise it was a bad game for Kobe as he shot the lakers into a double digit deficit. 19-43 is respectable but I wouldn't say it was great. What Jordan did that was so great is he constantly shot at a high percentage. Also he was tenacious on defense. Kobe is not that way.
Yao's screen wasn't too bad as any other screen. Running into a seven foot six guy is bound to make you bounce a little. Kobe was looking for the bail out, and shouldn't have let Tmac draw contact from Kobe.
Kobe's arms were draped all over Tmac expecting a call to go his way, he shouldn't have expected the call to go his way.
and he definitely shouldn't have protested the travel call, which was about 4, 5 steps. Not just three.
I don't think you have to be a kobe hater to discount his performance from last night.
He didn't need to take 50 percent of the team's shots.
It was a subpar effort on his part. 43 percent to get to 50 isn't that impressive. The other times, at and above 50 percent, give him the damn ball.
Tmac was taking ty shots, but he also got 9 assists, even if he wasn't at ALL on. He was still looking for his open teammates. And easier baskets.
And Yao got enough touches. He still distributed the ball. Kobe didn't do that last night. Lamar (the second scorer) was playing aggressive, and he got nine shots as said above. All I saw last night, was a man thirsty for his. 2 rebounds, 2 assists??!
You can be a LAKER FAN and still kind of shake your head at his performance, from last night.
Try to not knock some posters next time, always assuming it's just plain hating, when sometimes if you look at the actual stats from this game alone, as something not to be "lauded" . Tonight's game has no bearing on his past 50 point games. Individually, it wasn't his most impressive 50 point game.
If this, if that. if is worth shiitt.
Had the last rebound of regulation NOT been a LONG one, the Roxs would have won in regulation, not OT.
Last edited by Roxsfan; 03-31-2007 at 11:14 PM.
Please. One of our key bench players dnp. Luther head.
I guess you think the are going to beat the roxs in the playoffs. Tune in Sunday to get your answer.
That was perfectly executed screen by Yao. Kobe performs well stat-wise b/c his team sux. They are D-league at best w/o him. T-Mac is a great facilitator and he helped bring a W to his team. What did Kobe do, oh yeah...they lost.
Roxsfan nice 4 posts in a row lol... there is an edit button and a quote button.
Lakers arent that bad... walton and odom are great role players their biggest weakness is their bench. Kobe is the only reason the game went to OT so dont sell him short at all.
And, Kobe was the reason they lost in OT. Not only did he clearly travel, he committed the foul on T-Mac's three-point attempt when the Lakers were up 104-100.
Justice has been served.
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