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  1. #76
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    I like Bosh. But more rebounds and blocks for him would be nice.

    Yup, I've noticed that about Kobe. He doesn't have that all-around game like Lebron and Wade do.
    Not sure about Lebron yet. Wade yes. But nobody is near MJ. MJ could have a piss poor shooting game, and he would decide to shut down the players he was guarding and set up teammates with passes (and drive a lot more to get freethrows).

    You want more than 11 rebounds a game?
    Only 3 NBA players average in the 12s in rebounds a game.
    Nobody averages 13.

    KG adds some garbage rebounds to his totals (defensive rebounds teammates could have grabbed but KG made an effort to grab it anyways). Someone like Duncan doesn't bother with this.

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    Not sure about Lebron yet. Wade yes. But nobody is near MJ. MJ could have a piss poor shooting game, and he would decide to shut down the players he was guarding and set up teammates with passes (and drive a lot more to get freethrows).

    You want more than 11 rebounds a game?
    Only 3 NBA players average in the 12s in rebounds a game.
    Nobody averages 13.

    KG adds some garbage rebounds to his totals (defensive rebounds teammates could have grabbed but KG made an effort to grab it anyways). Someone like Duncan doesn't bother with this.
    Lebron will be better than MJ.

  3. #78
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    Lebron will be better than MJ.
    Offensively? Maybe.

    Offensively and Defensively as a package? Doubt it.

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    Offensively? Maybe.

    Offensively and Defensively as a package? Doubt it.
    Well, yeah, I guess it will be debatable, but its just hard to overlook Brons stats that he has put up this far in his career, 27 points, 7 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals and 1 block a game, ridiculous

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    I like Bosh. But more rebounds and blocks for him would be nice.
    I don't know why so many people think that Bosh is a bad rebounder, I hear it all the time. He is amongst top rebounders in the league. His last 13 games are:
    13-11-13-10-11-16-14-18-11-5-16-7-19 rebounds. I don't think that's bad at all. His average is lower because of the first part of the season when the whole team played bad. He was averaging like 5 rebounds per game.

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    I don't know why so many people think that Bosh is a bad rebounder, I hear it all the time. He is amongst top rebounders in the league. His last 13 games are:
    13-11-13-10-11-16-14-18-11-5-16-7-19 rebounds. I don't think that's bad at all. His average is lower because of the first part of the season when the whole team played bad. He was averaging like 5 rebounds per game.
    He's averaging damn near 11, what more to people want from him? Give the Texas boy a break

  7. #82
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    I don't know why so many people think that Bosh is a bad rebounder, I hear it all the time. He is amongst top rebounders in the league. His last 13 games are:
    13-11-13-10-11-16-14-18-11-5-16-7-19 rebounds. I don't think that's bad at all. His average is lower because of the first part of the season when the whole team played bad. He was averaging like 5 rebounds per game.

    That's because Bosh had plantar fascitis during the start of the season but kept playing through it. But *luckily* he later injured his knee and was forced to rest and during the rest period they treated BOTH his injuries and his plantar fascitis was cured even before the knee. When he came back his knee was still sore so it took him another month to really get the knee healthy. It was worth it since that rest period cured his p.f. fully.

    Another topic: I am still wondering why Spurs didn't rest Duncan for a month or so to get rid of his plantar fascitis last season. Everyone knows that a month or so rest is what's needed, there is no other cure. They(Pop) should have rested Duncan earlier in the season - Spurs would have 4 rings right now. Stubborn Duncan (who doesn't have a med degree) wouldn't allow them to rest him, and they (Pop) listened.

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    Everyone knows that a month or so rest is what's needed, there is no other cure. Stubborn Duncan (who doesn't have a med degree) wouldn't allow them to rest him, and they (Pop) listened.
    So you have a med degree now? Because otherwise, how could you make such a general statement like, "everyone knoooows P.F. can heal in a month." And then you chastise Duncan in the same paragraph for making assumptions about the medical field.

    Hogwash. That's like saying all dislocated shoulders can heal in 6 weeks. There were numerous reports last year stating that Duncan's P.F. was the sort that would take a minimum of 3 months to heal, if not most of the regular season. Pop would have LOVED to sit him merely a month and had Duncan at full strength, but he didnt' have that option.

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    I don't have a med degree (but someone in my home does, which doesn't matter since I never consulted anyone before forming opinoins on this matter). Anyways, it doesn't matter because the fact is: they never rested Duncan. Another fact is: Duncan refused to be kept out of games. Another fact is: Pop listened to Duncan. Another fact is: rest heals p.f.

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    Another fact is: rest heals p.f.
    You cleverly avoid the exact issue at hand. Duncan is healthy now, so it's obvious that rest has benefitted him. However, that was not my counterpoint. It was that there were numerous articles and reports about Duncan's particular case of p.f. that made it impossible to heal in a short time. I even recall threads arguing about the logistics of resting him for a month prior to the playoffs, but it was concluded by many that it would do him little to no good according to his doctors, so he played through it. You think Pop is stupid enough to let the best post player in the league go out there on one good leg if there's a better option? Come on now. It would have taken months to heal. Any Spurs fan with a decent memory will tell you the same.

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    So Marion guards Paul Pierce, Dwyane Wade, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Michael Redd, etc. ? Does he shut them down too?

    Yes, he does guard these guys and he also guards point guards such as Tony Parker and Sam Cassell. He does a pretty damn good job on limiting their scoring, depends on what you mean by shutting them down. He is a mutli-tasker on our team.

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    Lebron will be better than MJ.
    um......hold on, lets count

    Jordan 6 rings

    Lebron

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    um......hold on, lets count

    Jordan 6 rings

    Lebron
    He said "WILL" be better. Future tense. LeBron isn't even into his mid-20s yet. Lay off.

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    Lebron isnt even the best player on his own team. give me zydrunas instead

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    He said "WILL" be better. Future tense. LeBron isn't even into his mid-20s yet. Lay off.
    Thank you

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    He will not be better than Jordan.

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    He said "WILL" be better. Future tense. LeBron isn't even into his mid-20s yet. Lay off.
    its a Skip Bayless troll. Lay off

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    its a Skip Bayless troll. Lay off
    Wow, really? Thanks. Didn't know that.

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