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    I really don't have time to respond to your childish rants.
    Pot, meet kettle...

    You do realize that in the link with the "offending" photo, even they state it was a shooting, right?

    And even if you don't think so, I think the news value judgment questions about said photograph is a valid question.

    Just because you don't want to answer it doesn't mean you haven't shot yourself in the foot.

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    And I'm trying to stick to one subject here while continue to lob straw man after straw man on the fire hoping things warm up.

    You started the thread, Danny Boy, now finish it. Answer the simple questions posed before you.

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    Nbadan is a real super internets hero. lol

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    Nbadan is a real super internets hero. lol
    At least we can agree on something.

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    I can't answer your question without royally humiliating myself, so I'll offer a holier-than-thou non sequitur and lambaste everyone who has posted in this thread for not reducing his or her every political thought to writing in this forum because I get some perverse satisfaction in convincing myself that I'm smarter than and morally superior to a bunch of people whose backgrounds I don't really know and about whom I've formulated opinions at arms length.
    Fixed.

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    I simply must purchase a pint of your drink of choice for you one of these days.

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    You do realize that in the link with the "offending" photo, even they state it was a shooting, right?

    What are you smoking Johnny? My post wasn't about the VT shooting and you know it, it was about the readers who complained to the editors of a newspaper about a guy's penis sticking out of his shorts as they carried him away even though anyone it their right mind would know it wasn't a penis. Talk about streching the truth to promote a agenda.


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    What are you smoking Johnny? My post wasn't about the VT shooting and you know it, it was about the readers who complained to the editors of a newspaper about a guy's penis sticking out of his shorts as they carried him away even though anyone it their right mind would know it wasn't a penis. Talk about streching the truth to promote a agenda.

    Actually, I'm pointing out that the bad, bad MSM mentioned the "shooting" in your own post, which was posted before you brought out the Kehoe incident and chuckled at the ineptness of the media.

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    Nbadan is a real super internets hero. lol
    - 4 out 5 of your dead slovanian sniper friends agree.

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    Actually, I'm pointing out that the bad, bad MSM mentioned the "shooting" in your own post, which was posted before you brought out the Kehoe incident and chuckled at the ineptness of the media.
    Oh, your defending the M$M...


    ...good luck with that Johnny.

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    Oh, your defending the M$M...


    ...good luck with that Johnny.
    Am I wrong?

    Did they say the "worst school massacre" or did they say the "worst school shooting"?

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    A Shared Horror: Texans know the special grief Virginia Tech families feel
    04:34 PM CDT on Monday, April 16, 2007


    Imagine the horror. You’re a college kid who’s gotten up on a normal Monday morning, walked to class and sat down in your desk. Suddenly, pop, pop, pop. Your pals next to you fall to the ground, dead from an intruder’s bullets.


    More than 30 murdered. Dozens more wounded.

    Sadly, tragically, unfathomably, not since Charles Whitman took to the University of Texas tower 41 years ago, has an assassin reined so much horror on a college campus as a gunman did Monday. An eerie darkness fell over Austin and all of Texas on a sunny August 1, 1966 - a feeling akin to the Kennedy assassination in terms of shock, horror and disgrace
    Linky

    30 dead, many more than the gunman wounded Johnny.

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    Do you really want to start a tasteless poll about which school shooting was worse Johnny? Bet I'd win.

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    Ok, but..

    the biggest non-sequitor in this thread was by Johnny Blaze.

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    A Shared Horror: Texans know the special grief Virginia Tech families feel
    04:34 PM CDT on Monday, April 16, 2007




    Linky

    30 dead, many more than the gunman wounded Johnny.
    Talk about screwing up the facts, the M$M has been too busy playing this sad incident up as 'the worst school massacre in U.S. history', but according to Wikipedia, the actual worse school massacre occured in 1927 when Andrew Kehoe detonated explosives at a school in Bath, Michigan, killing 45 people and injuring 61. (the catholics got the blame that time)
    I would ask if you really want to get into an argument over the word "massacre" and "shooting," but you brought it up already.

    You said (posted above) that the M$M (how cute) screwed up the facts. I said you were incorrect because they haven't been calling it the "worst school massacre," they've been calling it the "worst school shooting."

    You can't be this dense, Dan, to miss the words and their meanings and admit that you've made a mistake when the evidence ( , stuff you posted) shows differently.

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    How is it a non-sequitur, Dan? You brought it up with trying to make the media look like they don't know their facts?

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    Dan, did the media refer to VT as the "worst school massacre" or the "worst school shooting"?

    There, one simple question. Can you answer it?

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    Give it up, JB. For Dan's world to work, the media has to be evil, controlled by the right, always willing to go along with conspiracies.

    Many of his conclusions are partially based this kind of concept of the media. And he will lie about it. He will lie you into submission until you say " it! I give up!".

    That is his modus operandi.

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    Ok, but..

    the biggest non-sequitor in this thread was by Johnny Blaze.
    How is that? You're the one who dedicated a post in this thread to lambasting the "MSM" for a perceived misstatement.

    Johnny Blaze called you on your facts and you refused to answer his very direct and clearly relevant question, given the fact that you assailed the media.

    I am, however, glad to see you readily acknowledge your own non-sequitur.

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    It's funny because everytime Dan posts, it comes off dumber and dumber.

    Boutons isn't even sticking up for him anymore.

    Good stuff.

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    You said (posted above) that the M$M (how cute) screwed up the facts. I said you were incorrect because they haven't been calling it the "worst school massacre," they've been calling it the "worst school shooting."

    You can't be this dense, Dan, to miss the words and their meanings and admit that you've made a mistake when the evidence ( , stuff you posted) shows differently.
    ..and I've already told you that online news sources regularly update their stories to correct incorrect facts, like whether this was truely the worst U.S. school massacre - it's not, or even whether this is the worst school shooting - again, it's likely not.

    Either way, their wrong.

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    How is it a non-sequitur, Dan? You brought it up with trying to make the media look like they don't know their facts?
    They don't always know the facts, or at least, rarely bother to get them right. Take the recent smear story about Diane Feinstein for instance, many online news sources ran with this story even though it's perfectly legal and ethical to have a spouse or family member have investment holdings in a company that contracts with the United States government.

    There wasn't ever a conflict of interest because Mr. Blum didn't and never has owned any defense contracting businesses. Richard Blum is a investment analyst, founder and senior partner of Blum Capital who once had investment holdings in two different defense contracting firms, Perini Corp. and URS. He divested himself of those holdings in 2005. The Committee and the Senate were both aware of Richard Blum's investment holdings because Diane Feinstein disclosed them to the Senate to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest when she was assigned to work on that committee years ago.

    And to make things even a little less ethical, Metroactive is a right wing blog in Santa Cruz CA with ties to the Republican National Committee, but whoever started this smear campaign only had to get out in the media before online source after online source ran with the same story, almost word for word, and magically, the illusions of some wing-nut are transformed into reality by your M$M. All you have to do is repeat it enough times.

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    ..and I've already told you that online news sources regularly update their stories to correct incorrect facts, like whether this was truely the worst U.S. school massacre - it's not, or even whether this is the worst school shooting - again, it's likely not.

    Either way, their wrong.
    Which American school shooting had more people killed than Monday's??

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    ..any way the worst part of all this is the M$M does this all the time and we're either to busy or to dumb to do anything about it. Then, to make things even worse, instead of issueing a retraction in as large a captions as they reported the original story, most of the time they just let the story just fade away.

    What additional bombs at Oklahoma City?
    What missile in Maine?
    What bombs going off in the WTC?
    Muhammed Atta had a girlfriend and his friends bragged to her and her friends that they were gonna blow up the WTC? Says who? Certainly not the M$M, those stories just don't exist anymore, or if they do, they must be conspiracy theories, yeah, that's it...

    ...reality is us.

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    They don't always know the facts, or at least, rarely bother to get them right. Take the recent smear story about Diane Feinstein for instance, many online news sources ran with this story even though it's perfectly legal and ethical to have a spouse or family member have investment holdings in a company that contracts with the United States government.

    There wasn't ever a conflict of interest because Mr. Blum didn't and never has owned any defense contracting businesses. Richard Blum is a investment analyst, founder and senior partner of Blum Capital who once had investment holdings in two different defense contracting firms, Perini Corp. and URS. He divested himself of those holdings in 2005. The Committee and the Senate were both aware of Richard Blum's investment holdings because Diane Feinstein disclosed them to the Senate to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest when she was assigned to work on that committee years ago.

    And to make things even a little less ethical, Metroactive is a right wing blog in Santa Cruz CA with ties to the Republican National Committee, but whoever started this smear campaign only had to get out in the media before online source after online source ran with the same story, almost word for word, and magically, the illusions of some wing-nut are transformed into reality by your M$M. All you have to do is repeat it enough times.
    Talk about your non-sequiturs.

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