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Nobody in the UFC (or it's fans even) is saying that UFC fighters could hang in the boxing ring...
Mayweather is the one trashing the UFC and saying that MMA fighters get KO'd in seconds if a boxer got in their with them in an MMA match...
we're all missng a small point of why fm jr. will never step into the octagan, his hands are brittle and without boxing gloves his ability to strike would be seriously undermined. no tape, no padding equals not being able to do what he's famous for which is kicking ass with his fists. he might lay a combination but without his full strength (and while he's got some strength in his fists, everyone knows his true advantage is defense) he'd lose pretty quickly. this fight will never happen because of that one fact. maybe they could have to fights, one in the ring and one in the octogan. the athlete who wins faster in his respective sport wins the compe ion.
Nobody in the UFC (or it's fans even) is saying that UFC fighters could hang in the boxing ring...
Mayweather is the one trashing the UFC and saying that MMA fighters get KO'd in seconds if a boxer got in their with them in an MMA match...
No, they wouldn't.
Who made the claim that a MMA fighter would do well in boxing?
Mayweather was the one that started talking about a boxer getting into the octagon. Of course he knows he would get taken to the ground and get the beat out of him, so I don't expect him to ever grow a pair and back up his talk.
Last edited by IX_Equilibrium; 05-05-2007 at 05:02 PM.
A mid-level WEC or KOTC fighter would destroy Mayweather.
True, but this guy doesn't know what WEC or KOTC means...
Nor does he even have a decent base of knowledge concerning anything MMA to even have a valid opinion.
I know...
Maybe pussyface is Mike Freeman?? They sure sounds alike...and equally knowledgeable on MMA...
http://cbs.sportsline.com/columns/story/10162545/1
response articles
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mmaboxing/story/10164513
http://cbs.sportsline.com/columns/story/10164182
and the 2 authors go at it...I especially like the post by somebody on page 3 that references Freeman being fired from a job in 2004 for lying on his resume. OUCH...as if he wasn't being owned well enough on his MMA hot sports opinions...
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/2397849
...there are nothing but partisan ufc fanboys in this thread.
like i said, im by no means a ufc hater. it has its place in this world of ours.
...i just realize that, at the end of the day, its a sport that takes place in a metal cage and has been popularized by a trashy reality tv show on etv that has a little too much in common with "the real world" for my taste.
...it can be fun and all, but its not exactly classy stuff, guys. ill stick with boxing and leave it at that.
Yeah stick to it, because you obviously know -all about MMA.
Have fun hugging the nuts of the eloquent Mayweather (now he's classy
not a mayweather fan, just a fan of the sport.Have fun hugging the nuts of the eloquent Mayweather (now he's classy
....I know this will seem ridiculous to the fanboys out there, but at the end of the day i think its doubtful that a sport that made its name with an MTV-Real World style reality TV show on eTV will supplant boxing and gain the sort of traction in middle america that, for instance, the delahoya/mayweather fight has attained.
Last edited by pussyface; 05-05-2007 at 05:36 PM.
Boxing fans are about the last group of fans who should point the finger at any sport for lack of class, moron.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV8A7...elated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDudX...elated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuiVEJSTU6Y
the enthusiasm that you guys defend your gy little sport with is SO reminiscent of the way that poker fans reacted to the notion that their sport's popularity explosion was a fad whose status as the "it" game of the moment wasn't sustainable.
"this is the greatest game in the world and now everyone has finally caught on," they said. they thought they were right, just like you guys, because they are blinded by how much they enjoy the sport.
like poker, the hardcores will always be there for mma, but this thing is unlikely to sustain itself longterm much less continue to grow at its current impressive rate.
[QUOTE=IX_Equilibrium]Boxing fans are about the last group of fans who should point the finger at any sport for lack of class, moron.
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People who's favorite sport's popularity is attributed to a reality tv show on e TV are about the last group of fans who should point the finger at any sport for lack of class, moron.
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You say that like "The Contender" never existed
Well, after MMA being in the US for 14 years and continuing to grow, I think fans, fighters, and promoters alike are pretty happy by what has been accomplished so far.
And it is not only growing in the US but around the world, so there goes your asinine theory of the reality show.
it has (next to) nothing to do with the popularity of the sport of boxing.You say that like "The Contender" never existed
MMA was popularized by that "The Ultimate Fighter" giness. As it exists today, there was no UFC before reality tv.
Much has been written on the subject.
haha, you make it sound as if it was 14 years of steady growth. you are not being intelectually honest here.
the UFC thing had some traction early, wained in popularity dramitically to the point of near financial ruin, and then was reborn via its reality tv theatrics. Its popularity has increased 10-fold since that gay little show, and I'm not even exagerating.
....can you even spell RED?
Again, your ignorance shines through with each pathetic post. The UFC was reborn because of the rules implemented and the adherance to the state athletic commisions after Zuffa took it over from SEG. Ever since then, the UFC has increased its PPV revenues and attendance, way BEFORE TUF.
You keep bringing up TUF, like it is what it made MMA. You think PRIDE was massively popular in Japan because of TUF? There is no e TV in Japan, genius.
Your arguments are pathetic and weak and you are trying to cling onto anything you can to deny the fact that Boxing has been trending down, and MMA has been trending up.
If your arguments were valid, I'd be glad to listen. But from your 1st post of "no olympic caliber athletes in MAA", you are just plain ignorant and dead wrong concerning anything MMA. If you want to debate, learn your facts before you try to argue about anything.
Last edited by IX_Equilibrium; 05-05-2007 at 09:05 PM.
Another dead wrong post. You said 5 posts ago you were going to stick to boxing, yet you continue to embarrass yourself.
Right. Boxing would never have something to do with a "gay" reality show.
This very true. Vale Tudo events were selling out arenas in Japan long before "tuf" AND Pride.
Pussyface, for one of my favorite examples of mma in a movie you'll need to go back before "Rocky" to 1973. The opening scene of "Enter the Dragon" has Bruce Lee fighting in a mma fight. They use fingerless gloves, neutral attire and a neutral setting. The fight starts with some stand up and then ends up on the ground where Lee submits his opponent using an armbar.
Here's a few Olympic MMAers:
Randy Couture - 3 Time Olympic Alternate
Matt Lindland - Olympic Silver Medalist
Hideheko Yoshida - Olympic Gold Medalist
Rulon Gardner - Olympic Gold Medalist
Naoyo Ogawa - Olympic Silver Medalist
Isvan Majoros - Olympic Gold Medalist
Kid Yamamoto - 2008 Olympic Freestyle Wrestling Compe or
Mark Coleman - Olympic Compe or
How is Sherk only 155 lbs????
Those pics look like when he was at welterweight.
Edit: Yep, the 1st pic is from UFC 42 when he fought Matt Hughes.
Last edited by IX_Equilibrium; 05-06-2007 at 10:24 AM.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. Apologizes
“I apologize to the UFC, sometimes we say things that we shouldn’t have said and I’m man enough to admit that. I apologize to the Fer tas, Lorenzo and Dana White (UFC owners). I respect MMA fighters and what they do in the UFC. I have no plans of fighting in mixed martial arts.”
http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/05/07/floy...us-apologetic/
I'm glad he did that being that everyone knew he would not back up his talk.
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