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It's hard to tell sometimes. Us Mavs fans tend to be a defensive bunch these days. Our team is getting shat upon constantly, and not exactly without merit.
Hey, I'm on your side in this case!
It's hard to tell sometimes. Us Mavs fans tend to be a defensive bunch these days. Our team is getting shat upon constantly, and not exactly without merit.
Since you repeats yourself every post...here's to you bag:
Your opinion is worth about as much as the I just took. You might be the dumbest mother er EVER...congrats
Hindsight, yes, very much so, but not for the reason you think. It was a defensible decision at the time. I don't think he would be a much different player than he was when he was here, which was a borderline All-Star, not a two-time MVP. That system in Phoenix is the perfect vehicle for him. Instead of penetrating and kicking it out to jumpshooters, he's running a fastbreak with forwards going to the basket like they were guards. And yes, caveats apply about how horrible Dirk was against Golden State, but he's a much better player now than he was with Nash. Without him, he's had to learn how to create for himself without Nash setting him up. Face it, our point guards are not good distributors. Dirk is the best passer on this team, and that's saying something.
Nash was 31 years old, he had a history of not being durable, and he had been repeatedly schooled by Mike Bibby and Tony Parker in the playoffs. What has come back to bite us in the ass is not his potential lost contributions to Dallas, but the fact that he strengthened a conference compe or from playoff bubble team to elite championship contender. And if the Suns fall short against San Antonio, their 3-year run will pale in comparison to ours, which of course will pale next to San Antonio's.
I'm beginning to think that the playoffs are all about matchups and a case of rock-paper-scissors. Golden State was put together specifically to beat a team like Dallas, whereas Dallas was engineered and put together to beat Detroit, San Antonio and Miami. I fear that the Mavs will do something rash and completely retool their roster to beat the Golden States of the NBA, when they need to keep in mind that the roster they had DID win 67 games and did what it was supposed to, which was beat San Antonio in a seven game series. Had we advanced to the conference finals, I think a series with the Spurs would've once again gone seven games and we stood a good chance of repeating last year.
Still, after what happened, we can't just stand pat.
So you don't want Kobe on your team? Kobe for Dirk. Kobe won't win with his current team, and Dirk won't win with his current team. It's an even trade.Since you repeats yourself every post...here's to you bag:
Your opinion is worth about as much as the I just took. You might be the dumbest mother er EVER...congrats
Kobe >>> Dirk genius...Kobe is a GUARD he can create his own shots. I want you to stop posting your garbage takes about the Mavs
Well... I think Stack plans to be in Dallas next year *at least another year*. He has voiced it in most media outlets and I see him really enjoyin' his playin time and what he brings to the court. *Plus, it makes him look a good the way he's comin off the bench and lightin it up like he does and that always makes other teams interested, smart of him*
Anyway - I agree with Mardi and Ponky on Harris. I think the dude could become something, but do the Mavs really want to wait for him to blow up? My only concern is that maybe it's Avery's system that he doesnt want to adjust to...? And maybe that is why he isnt developing like a #5 pick would. Jumpshot - unreliable at best. Defensively - yeah he picks up a needed charge here and there and sometimes gets ways with a steal, but for the most part he picks up more fouls in a smaller amount of time than any other player I have seen. And he needs to work on his brakin' bc he gets runnin and seems like he cant stop sometimes, needing another player to brace his fall. Just IMO tho. But I would still take him over Terry.
Honestly - both of them could go if you asked me. I could care less about gettin Kobe - I am not a fan, never have been, never will be. Even if he became a MAV, he still would not be a player I rooted for. While I'm not denyin his skills - I just plain dont like Kobe. So he can stay a Laker til the day he dies. But thass just me. Kidd - hey if the Mavs could get him, I'll take him as long as he doesnt bring all that drama from the wife with him *ha*. At least then we could have someone who could run down the lane, draw some defenders, and kick it back out... WHICH WE DONT HAVE AT ALL NOW!!!!! Terry plain sucks at passing, Harris is a turnover machine... so what do Mavfans really want done? Nothing? Outside of keeping Dirk, Howard, Stack... who else? I would keep Diop. Uhm, from there tho - everyone is tradeable in my book... but again, thass just me. And we still need someone who can get it done low post... But who am I?
SpursDynasty reaches new heights every day...
Nash probably would have been the guy that got the Mavs over the Warriors, but I'm not sure they ever would have won a le had he stayed.
Kobe >>> Dirk genius...Kobe is a GUARD he can create his own shots. I want you to stop posting your garbage takes about the Mavs
are you 8 years old?
Speaking of... is that the age of the boy in your avatar picture?
What do you think Nash was? The problem is Dirk. If he comes through and carries that team on his back like he should of, Golden St. does not win the series, and Miami doesnt win in the Finals.
They wanna PG? I hear Smush is available.
Dallas should sign Jason kidd and trade Jason Terry for Andrew Bynum, Jordan Farmar and a Snickers bar.
That's my only advice for Cuban. Kidd is old, but is still very good.
Okay... Nash obviously was not the player he is now for Dallas. I'm not certain Nash would have fit into the style they developed anyway and I doubt Dirk would have developed like he did if Nash was still here.
While Nash may be the perfect point guard NOW... who's to say he would have made those same changes in Dallas. Nobody. He's gone now. And I still say good riddance. Nash was always fallin apart at the end of the season in Dallas, he got to PHX and decided to fix himself to fit that system... And kudos to him for doin so - but I doubt he would have done the same in Dallas.
Maybe or maybe not. One thing is for sure, we don't have a decent point guard! Do you not remember how our turnovers were very low while Nash was here? How our assists were high? Our defense sucked but we have more defenders now and a coach who demands defense. Makes you wonder what could have been.
I don't like Stackhouse at all. He has the right at ude of wanting to take big shots and all, but he never hits them, and always makes dumb-ass plays that cost his team (for example, the flagrant on Shaq or the late travel in game 4 in Oakland). He's being overrated because he looked good in comparison to the star players who didn't show up, kind of like how we all overrated Antonio Daniels in 2001, when Duncan and Robinson laid down against the Lakers.
I don't get all the Terry bashing. He wasn't the problem in the GS series, and he's always shown up for Dallas in big games. He was a big part of them coming back from 0-2 against Houston in 2005. He iced game 4 of the series against the Spurs last year. He stepped up in a major way in game 5 of last year's Finals in a must-win when his boy Dirk was a no-show again. Terry's not the star player, so he's not expected to be great every night, but he's incredibly dangerous, and someone any team in the league would want in a supporting role.
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He absolutely sucked last night.
Dirk was always a big postseason guy when Nash was on Dallas. Nowitzki has disappeared at bad times every year since he's been gone. First, he didn't show up at the beginning of the Rockets series in 2005, and blamed Dampier for it. Then there was the Finals... and now, this was a pathetic choke against the Warriors. The guy played like a the whole series.
True, but he's had several really good playoff series during the same stretch.
The fact of the matter is that until/unless Dirk gets a low post game there are some matchups which will slow him down. He's 7ft tall and not good enough to create his own shots (other than shooting long jumpers over people). Some Spurs fans really struggle with this as they see him abuse their team most times they play. That's just because the Spurs are a good matchup for him. The Mavs either need to get a really good low post scorer to compliment Dirk or he needs to get a good low post game (which I don't see happening).
^I dont see that developin' either Mabber... altho - he might shock the world next season. *Might be a bit of wishful thinkin*
I'm not sayin Nash wouldnt make this team better - but if we had Nash *just for s*... do you think we would be the team we are? does anyone think the Mavs style of play would be the same? I don't. I don't think Nash fits into the system AJ wants. Maybe he would - you never know.
Of course I remember how low our turnovers were and how high our assists were - but again, were we playin the same offensive/defensive style then? You cant factor in what used to be into this system they play now - it wouldnt be the same. Who knows, it could be better, it could be worse.
Dirk still upped his game when Nash left. They both became two completely diff players. Makes me wonder were they hindering each other here in Dallas. He may disappear in the post season but... I would take Dirk still. He just needs to get some low post skills....
The Dallas "big three"
Nash era - Dirk, Nash, Finley
Today - Dirk, Terry, Howard
Who is the one person common to both big three's? I"m not blaming Dirk for this choke job, but they've put a variety of supporting cast around him and still zilch.
Winning 8 playoff series and going to the Finals isn't "zilch." If your goal is to win a le, then so far, it's ultimately a failure, but let's keep things in perspective here. He's been clutch in the postseason before. Dirk's record in Game 7/best of five Game 5: 5-0.
We have 18 million threads bashing Dirk and none bashing Zach Randolph, Stephon Marbury or Vince Carter. We're holding Dirk to a pretty high standard.
^ but do you compare Randolph, Carter, and Marbury to Dirk? Just askin... Not meant to be funny... =
I'm just stating that the amount of criticism and vitriol directed Dirk's way is a little out of proportion. He deserves plenty of criticism for his disappearing act against Golden State, but last I checked, he's humble, he works hard on his game, he's a good teammate, he doesn't demand all the credit when things go well, or throw his teammates under the bus when it doesn't, nor does he draw attention to himself or provide opposing teams with "bulletin board" material...maybe you need to be a bit of an asshole or have an "alpha dog" temperment to lead a team to a le, and Dirk is definitely a nice guy.
But the bash Dirk incessantly meme is getting a little tiresome, especially when you neglect his entire body of work.
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