Bowen kicked Amare in Achilles

[infinite styles]

Bingo!

Is it a warrior fan or a suns fan in disguised just to show that other teams talking how dirty spurs are.

Next!

I like how he added the part that Spurs are growing a reputation among fans on all teams forums for being dirty.

Really, Who Gives A

[Suck My Blurr]

I love the playoffs! The smack is too much fun.

Then don't be a and ask for people to be banned!

Take it like the that you are!

!

[Durruti]

I have no problem whatsoever with physical play and hard fouls. A little sneakiness never hurt either. It's just that the Spurs turn this kind of into an artform. If unbridled deviousness is what makes a great team, then so be it. But as a sportsfan I think it lowers the quality of play substantially. It turns what should be an exciting game between to worthy opponents into an exercise in frustration. You guys seem to rely entirely on suckering the refs and playing dirty, and what's an even bigger shame is that you don't need to. You have more than enough talent to play relatively straight-up.

As for the topic of this thread, Bowen is widely regarded as the dirtiest player in the game and should not be given the benefit of the doubt when he goes and kicks another player in the achilles heel. Suns fans are trying to play it "classy" by downplaying Bowen's shenanigans, but I guarantee you you won't be of the same mind if Nash or STAT gets injured by this clown.

The reason I'm making a big deal of it is because I do not want to "play the odds" and hope Bowen's disgraceful behavior does not wind up ending the Suns season. He should be called on it and punished before he does some real damage.

And honestly, I think Spurs fans should be saying the same thing. You may have a dirty team but you have the classiest fan base in the league. You should be calling out Bowen as well.

[Durruti]

"Is it a warrior fan or a suns fan in disguised just to show that other teams talking how dirty spurs are."

LOL. When you're a Warrior fan you generally have to find another team to root for in the playoffs. This year is a (probably temporary) exception, but I've been a Suns fan as well for years. And I'm a huge Nash fan. I would just hate to see his season ended by some bag like Bowen.

[cornbread]

Durruti,
Did your righteous quest for justice against the sneaky, poor sportsmen of the league include a campaign against this ?
dirty
I must have missed your thread about it.

[ambchang]

I have no problem whatsoever with physical play and hard fouls. A little sneakiness never hurt either. It's just that the Spurs turn this kind of into an artform. If unbridled deviousness is what makes a great team, then so be it. But as a sportsfan I think it lowers the quality of play substantially. It turns what should be an exciting game between to worthy opponents into an exercise in frustration. You guys seem to rely entirely on suckering the refs and playing dirty, and what's an even bigger shame is that you don't need to. You have more than enough talent to play relatively straight-up.

As for the topic of this thread, Bowen is widely regarded as the dirtiest player in the game and should not be given the benefit of the doubt when he goes and kicks another player in the achilles heel. Suns fans are trying to play it "classy" by downplaying Bowen's shenanigans, but I guarantee you you won't be of the same mind if Nash or STAT gets injured by this clown.

The reason I'm making a big deal of it is because I do not want to "play the odds" and hope Bowen's disgraceful behavior does not wind up ending the Suns season. He should be called on it and punished before he does some real damage.

And honestly, I think Spurs fans should be saying the same thing. You may have a dirty team but you have the classiest fan base in the league. You should be calling out Bowen as well.

Bowen was called out as being dirty by exactly 2 players and a coach. Ray Allen, Vince Carter and Isiah Thomas.
Allen's contention that Bowen tried to conciously injure him in the 2005 playoffs were disproved when replays showed that he twisted his ankle by himself, and Bowen wasn't even in physical contact with him.
Vince Carter earned nicknames such as Wince Carter and half man half a season because of his general wussiness.
Isiah Thomas was unhappy with Bowen's alleged intentions to injure Steve Francis. Fact is, Francis himself said he thought Bowen never intended to, it just happened. Also need to point out that aside from being one of the worst GMs in the history of the league, Thomas praised Bowen's defense a few days beforehand.
Fact also remains that Bowen does not have the number of flagrant fouls, technicals or suspensions to considered dirty.
Apparently, only unknowledgable and naive fans who believes everything they heard on other forums and ESPN thinks Bowen is dirty and that he should never be given the benefit of the doubt.

EDIT: I remember you, you are the guy who says Spurs are boring with nothing to back it up. Continue to regurgitate what others say, we need more non-thinking zombies in our world.

[Durruti]

Durruti,
Did your righteous quest for justice against the sneaky, poor sportsmen of the league include a campaign against this ?
dirty
I must have missed your thread about it.

Not a campaign, no, but I agree that that play was unnaceptable, just like Bowen's. I don't think homerism should even enter into it. Pure B-ball fans should condemn such thuggery regardless of the team.

Still, I don't think anyone can hold a candle to Bowen when it comes to dirty tricks, and it's time the league sent him a message before he seriously hurts someone. Why is that so controversial?

[judaspriestess]

The Spurs are quickly getting a reputation as the dirtiest team in the league. It's not just Suns fans, it's all over the NBA forums.

Here's what a Suns fan said after the game:

I saw some of the most ridiculous things tonight at the game.

There was...Ginobili grabbing on to Amare's leg, preventing him from rolling to the basket, no call by the refs, Suns turnover.

Bruce Bowen blatantly kicking Amare square in the leg when he went for a dunk. If you have the game tape, you can see Bowen leaning forward, not really jumping, just trying to stomp on Amare's ankle basically. They replayed it on the screen at the arena, in slow-mo, and people were pissed.

Bruce Bowen basically clotheslining Leandro Barbosa away from the ball.


Duncan grabbing on to Amare's leg to prevent him from running, while he was down on the ground, pretending to tie his shoe(what is it with grabbing Amare's leg????)

Bowen elbowing Nash in the back, away from the ball, so hard that Nash fell over.

Elson shoulder-blocking Diaw, basically knocking him out of bounds.

Duncan grabbing on to Bell's arm to prevent him from running down the court on a fast break.


None of this stuff was called, yet it was blatant, and clear as daylight."

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40720

It's a shame that your team is engaging in this disgraceful behavior. I honestly would not be surprised to see either Amare or Nash get seriously injured by one of your thugs. Actually, thug is the wrong word -- it implies toughness -- this is more like the guy who sucker punches someone or kicks them when they're down.

I hope the league will send a message to the Spurs that cannot try to injure other players with abandon and get away with it. Heavy penalties are in order.

It's time for the league to send a message.

The Spurs dirty?
I guess they never saw karl malone play, john stockton or the old pistons teams to name a few. bandwagon fans from other teams are so ing desperate to hate on the Spurs. Its kinda cool. You just validated we have fans all over the country. Even for a "small" market team.

[ca®lo]

anybody got a video of the "supposed" kick?

[dreamcastrocks]

The Spurs dirty?
I guess they never saw karl malone play, john stockton or the old pistons teams to name a few. bandwagon fans from other teams are so ing desperate to hate on the Spurs. Its kinda cool. You just validated we have fans all over the country. Even for a "small" market team.

I doubt that you have that many fans across the country. The way that the Spurs play, just isn't that exciting to the masses.

The Stockton/Malone days or the Bad Boy days should be long gone. The league is trying to repair its image.

[dreamcastrocks]

anybody got a video of the "supposed" kick?

It really is hard to see. I think the NBA replays on the ESPN website shows it a little.

It is hard to see, and is hard to tell if it is malicious. It is not as mad as some of the other plays that we have seen. You can tell that Amare did come down wrong after the play though.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270508021

I think they are talking about the play where Diaw had that awesome no-look behind the back pass.

[sunsbum]

Don't trust ESPN, insidehoops, or any other forum besides arizonasportsfans.

you are really starting to get on my nerves, ive been on plenty of suns forums, and while i like ASFN the best there are great posters on each one of those sites.

[judaspriestess]

I doubt that you have that many fans across the country. The way that the Spurs play, just isn't that exciting to the masses.

The Stockton/Malone days or the Bad Boy days should be long gone. The league is trying to repair its image.

don't kid yourself sweetie, the Spurs have plenty of fans. I don't live in San Antonio but in Vegas and there are plenty fans from all over the country and if you actually pay attention to the game other than being obsessed with a dunk, you can hear quite a bit of clapping in the crowd for the Spurs. The only other team I've seen with more fans is the Cavaliers. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[dreamcastrocks]

don't kid yourself sweetie, the Spurs have plenty of fans. I don't live in San Antonio but in Vegas and there are plenty fans from all over the country and if you actually pay attention to the game other than being obsessed with a dunk, you can hear quite a bit of clapping in the crowd for the Spurs. The only other team I've seen with more fans is the Cavaliers. Sorry to burst your bubble.

The Spurs have more fans that the Heat or the Lakers? Come on now? You seriously think that?

[dreamcastrocks]

you are really starting to get on my nerves, ive been on plenty of suns forums, and while i like ASFN the best there are great posters on each one of those sites.

I'm sure that there are diamonds in the rough everywhere. I don't like digging through to find it though.

I'm not going to lose any sleep if I get on your nerves. I call them like I see them. Always have, always will.

[mardigan]

Has anyone seen the play in question besides the Suns fans? If so that says a lot especially since there still hasnt been any video proof

[judaspriestess]

The Spurs have more fans that the Heat or the Lakers? Come on now? You seriously think that?

The Heat??? honey all those bandwagon fans are gone after their miserable flop. The lakers? all their "fans" are busy doing other things. When the lakers start winning again, they'll crop up again but in the meantime they are MIA except for the faithful. There are Spurs fans a plenty around the country, don't kid yourself. If they were so disliked no one would be talking about them good or bad.

[ambchang]

It really is hard to see. I think the NBA replays on the ESPN website shows it a little.

It is hard to see, and is hard to tell if it is malicious. It is not as mad as some of the other plays that we have seen. You can tell that Amare did come down wrong after the play though.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270508021

I think they are talking about the play where Diaw had that awesome no-look behind the back pass.

THAT was an intentional kick? Bowen should be suspended because of THAT? This is hilarious, it was barely even a scratch!
If you want to play non-contact sports, go play badminton or bowling.

[Pistons < Spurs]

It really is hard to see. I think the NBA replays on the ESPN website shows it a little.

It is hard to see, and is hard to tell if it is malicious. It is not as mad as some of the other plays that we have seen. You can tell that Amare did come down wrong after the play though.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270508021

I think they are talking about the play where Diaw had that awesome no-look behind the back pass.

Yep, that's the play in question....and I have to say this entire discussion is much to do about nothing. That's the kick that's got everyone so riled up? WOW. Sorry Suns fans, Bruce will not be getting suspended.

[cherylsteele]

THAT was an intentional kick? Bowen should be suspended because of THAT? This is hilarious, it was barely even a scratch!
If you want to play non-contact sports, go play badminton or bowling.

Those shuttle s can put an eye out.

[dreamcastrocks]

The Heat??? honey all those bandwagon fans are gone after their miserable flop. The lakers? all their "fans" are busy doing other things. When the lakers start winning again, they'll crop up again but in the meantime they are MIA except for the faithful. There are Spurs fans a plenty around the country, don't kid yourself. If they were so disliked no one would be talking about them good or bad.

Bandwagon fans or not, they have more than the Spurs. Kobe is a huge draw around the league. So are Wade and Shaq. So is LeBron. So is Carmelo and AI.

Them are the breaks. The Spurs are talked about because of how good the TEAM is, not how good their fanbase is. Major difference.

[mardigan]

If that was the play in question thats pathetic, Bruce didnt even do anything.

[dreamcastrocks]

THAT was an intentional kick? Bowen should be suspended because of THAT? This is hilarious, it was barely even a scratch!
If you want to play non-contact sports, go play badminton or bowling.

I'm with you. There is no way in you get suspended for stuff like that.

[Durruti]

THAT was an intentional kick? Bowen should be suspended because of THAT? This is hilarious, it was barely even a scratch!
If you want to play non-contact sports, go play badminton or bowling.

Huh? You can't even see the play in that video.

[Man of Steel]

Like I said before SUNS in 6.

Now that is not a slanderous take!

(Yawn)

Yeah yeah yeah.

Move over--

Denver fans patented that --you need something new.