Cuban gives Finley invite to return

[ponky]

I don't know about that. I was at Game 3 of the Mavs/Spurs series last year, sitting in the upper deck, and Mavs' fans were booing Finley pretty lustily all night long. That was well before any of the Terry stuff started. I thought it was a pretty bush move by those who were there.

lol, lots of those people aren't hardcore fans so who cares? i hear people screaming all kinds of crazy at the current mavs roster, guys who think that the only person who should ever be shooting is a white german dude wearing #41, people cussing out mavericks players when they make a mistake, etc. people can be pretty ing rude at games and even though i'm a season ticketholder, at times i just prefer watching games at home where i can tivo, drink cheaper beer and stare at a huge screen without the idiots around me. as for san antonio, the fans there at least don't diss their own guys so i'll give them credit for that but they have other problems which i could list, having gone to plenty of games at the att. san antonians love their spurs right now and it's easy to see why with all the success that franchise has had of late...dallasites like the mavs alright but they have lots of sports teams to choose from and it doesn't help in curbing such fickle *casual* fan ways.

[ashbeeigh]

Attention whoring yes. Tampering Yes.

Mark Cuban is so pissed that his team is out earlier that he feels he needs to get on the ball to get a better team together for next year. He sees what Pop has done with what his franchise had in Finley and he wants it back. Since he's Mark Cuban he's going to try to get Finley's attention in the most annoying and most illegal manner, by "text messaging" him. My god. What a bag. What a bag. That was my first response when I saw this thread. He's just angry. He and the Mavs need a crying corner. A time out in a sense.

Other teams have had their way with the coach of the year, the wonder boys, the MVP, the Dallas Mavericks, they did peak too soon and the owner is out to see that everyone sees that the Mavs still are the coach of the year, the wonder boys, and the MVP...oh and Findog...even if it does mean this whole tampering thing. I have no idea what the rules and regulations are for owners, GMs, coaches, etc for contacting other players about the next contract year, but this clearly is out of bounds...contacting him directly is unneccessary. Calling him out in the press is lame, and Cuban like. But, will it get to Finley and the Spurs? They're above that. Well above that.


The Spurs can weather all Mark Cuban's advances and seductive moves in all the same ways they have weathered the "tainted" talk, by playing the game and being in the moment.

Put on your big boy pants, Mark Cuban. It's going to be a of a June.

[MadDog73]

He sees what Pop has done with what his franchise had in Finley and he wants it back.

The sad thing is, Finley is not the answer to the Mavericks woes, IMO.

But that's a great question for Mavfans: Do the current Mavs win a Championship with the addition of Finley?

[ashbeeigh]

The sad thing is, Finley is not the answer to the Mavericks woes, IMO.

But that's a great question for Mavfans: Do the current Mavs win a Championship with the addition of Finley?

True, true. Does Cuban see AJ' coaching Finley in the same way Pop did so he can have the same type of player? I just don't see them getting the same type of response without the same type of "core around him, our "big 3," t this stage of his career. Is Finley just part of the puzzle to a championship for them? I'm not a Mavs fan, so I can't answer these questions.

[ponky]

Attention whoring yes. Tampering Yes.

Mark Cuban is so pissed that his team is out earlier that he feels he needs to get on the ball to get a better team together for next year. He sees what Pop has done with what his franchise had in Finley and he wants it back. Since he's Mark Cuban he's going to try to get Finley's attention in the most annoying and most illegal manner, by "text messaging" him. My god. What a bag. What a bag. That was my first response when I saw this thread. He's just angry. He and the Mavs need a crying corner. A time out in a sense.

The Warriors have had their way with the coach of the year, the wonder boys, the MVP, the Dallas Mavericks, they did peak too soon and the owner is out to see that everyone sees that the Mavs still are the coach of the year, the wonder boys, and the MVP...oh and Findog...even if it does mean this whole tampering thing. I have no idea what the rules and regulations are for owners, GMs, coaches, etc for contacting other players about the next contract year, but this clearly is out of bounds...contacting him directly is unneccessary. Calling him out in the press is lame, and Cuban like. But, will it get to Finley and the Spurs? They're above that. Well above that.


The Spurs can weather all Mark Cuban's advances and seductive moves in all the same ways they have weathered the "tainted" talk, by playing the game and being in the moment.

Put on your big boy pants, Mark Cuban. It's going to be a of a June.

ummm, as an owner, he probably should be working on getting the mavericks a better pg so yeah, i don't think there's much shock and awe that he's going to try and work on tweaking problems here and there. i'd be pissed if he was actually taking a time out and not trying to resolve the weaknesses that the mavericks have for next season. besides, it's not like this is on the front page (or even nba page) of any major sports media i've read so let's not exagerrate about the whole thing. this whole article is probably based on a quick question and answer with cuban about nash and finley and who he's rooting for, yadda yadda yadda.

[mabber]

"San Antone"

Many outsiders make this mistake, but in Cuban's case, I'm pretty sure he's aware of it and is being malicious.

I was unaware that saying or writing San Antone instead of San Antonio offended people that live there. I've always said San Antone as I thought it sounded cooler. Why does that bother people that live there?

[monosylab1k]

The sad thing is, Finley is not the answer to the Mavericks woes, IMO.

But that's a great question for Mavfans: Do the current Mavs win a Championship with the addition of Finley?

No. Finley would be nice to have but, if anything, he becomes part of the "jump shot happy" problem in Dallas.

His ability to hit a clutch shot would be a great addition though. And now he actually plays a little defense. He would be a significant improvement over devean george or greg buckner, but he's not the solution.

[GrandeDavid]

After the rude, low class reception he got in games at Dallas last season, I would hope he wouldn't consider a return. Those people booing must not be too smart since they evidently didn't get that it was the team who waived. It wasn't like he asked for a release or trade.

[FromWayDowntown]

lol, lots of those people aren't hardcore fans so who cares? i hear people screaming all kinds of crazy at the current mavs roster, guys who think that the only person who should ever be shooting is a white german dude wearing #41, people cussing out mavericks players when they make a mistake, etc. people can be pretty ing rude at games and even though i'm a season ticketholder, at times i just prefer watching games at home where i can tivo, drink cheaper beer and stare at a huge screen without the idiots around me. as for san antonio, the fans there at least don't diss their own guys so i'll give them credit for that but they have other problems which i could list, having gone to plenty of games at the att. san antonians love their spurs right now and it's easy to see why with all the success that franchise has had of late...dallasites like the mavs alright but they have lots of sports teams to choose from and it doesn't help in curbing such fickle *casual* fan ways.

I thought the booing for Finley was pretty pervasive, which suggests to me one of two possibilities: (1) I happened upon a playoff game that happened to be infiltrated by a lot of bandwagoners who don't have a clue about the NBA; or (2) Mavs' fans, by and large, don't get it. Either possibility casts Mavs fans in a pretty bad light.

I consider the situations, as a Spurs fan, that I've faced with old Spurs coming back to San Antonio. Almost universally, players who were on our great teams are greeted with loud applause when they return to San Antonio. Spurs fans, by and large, get the history and appreciate that things happen that cause players to move on. If Finley moves on at some point, I suspect that he'll still be applauded when he comes through San Antonio.

As for the "other problems" that you won't name, I'll be happy to get into a pissing match with you comparing Mavs fans in Dallas with Spurs fans in San Antonio. I'm almost 100% certain I'll win. My sole experience in Dallas was made miserable by boorish behavior (including some jackass spitting on the 13-year-old daughter of a friend of mine) and by epithets that would have made 's Angels blush. Given how poorly we were treated for having done nothing other than dare to watch a basketball game while wearing the colors of the opposing team, I wasn't at all suprised at the ridiculous manner in which Mavs' fans treated Michael Finley.

San Antonians have always loved their Spurs. In part, that's true because few franchises have had the kind of success that the Spurs have had since the merger. Save and except for a couple of seasons, the Spurs have been a playoff team on a consistent basis since 1976 (4 playoff misses since 1976: 1984, 1987, 1989, and 1997) and a le contender over long stretches of their existence (the late 70's in the East, the early 80's, the mid-90's, the Duncan era). And we've been undoubtedly fortunate that our down times have been rewarded with 2 of the greatest players and best human beings to ever play the game at this level. But even in lean years, Spurs fans have been there supporting their team. What looms in the near future -- what are almost certain to be some very lean years -- will be a test. But even if our franchise goes into a Warrior-like swoon, fans will still come to see the Spurs.

[ponky]

The sad thing is, Finley is not the answer to the Mavericks woes, IMO.

But that's a great question for Mavfans: Do the current Mavs win a Championship with the addition of Finley?

i don't think he ever posed the, imo, unreal possibility of finley's return, in those terms. sometimes players want to return to play for the team they spent most of their careers with just to retire with that franchise, not necessarily to be a make or break series turning baller. malone wanted to go back and play with the jazz before retiring, zo went back to the heat (that obviously worked out VERY well for him), Pippen returned to Chicago, but i don't really see finley returning to play for the mavs if the spurs go on to win a ring this year, and probably not even if they don't.

[Agloco]

Finleys only response should be..............

[ATXSPUR]

You gotta admit.. Cuban has got alot of balls making this offer in such a public way.

well, either he's got alot of balls or he's a complete ing re .

Re !

[monosylab1k]

as for san antonio, the fans there at least don't diss their own guys so i'll give them credit for that but they have other problems which i could list, having gone to plenty of games at the att. san antonians love their spurs right now and it's easy to see why with all the success that franchise has had of late

i really don't see how this is a problem. booing your own guys if they are playing like is completely justified in my opinion. when i go to games, i make it a point to boo erick dampier's useless money-sucking ass every time he checks in. if these guys are playing like they deserve nothing more. booing in itself is not wrong at all, and part of the fun of going to a game.

it only becomes a problem when people are disrespectful to other fans watching the game, and when they boo for completely wrong/ignorant reasons. booing Finley was completely classless and one of the most embarrassing moments in Mavericks history as far as i'm concerned.

[ponky]

As for the "other problems" that you won't name, I'll be happy to get into a pissing match with you comparing Mavs fans in Dallas with Spurs fans in San Antonio. I'm almost 100% certain I'll win. My sole experience in Dallas was made miserable by boorish behavior (including some jackass spitting on the 13-year-old daughter of a friend of mine) and by epithets that would have made 's Angels blush. Given how poorly we were treated for having done nothing other than dare to watch a basketball game while wearing the colors of the opposing team, I wasn't at all suprised at the ridiculous manner in which Mavs' fans treated Michael Finley.

Please, I've heard about the spitting incident a thousand times just like I'm sure you've heard of my numerous retellings of the Spurs fan calling Najera a "dumb " and not letting up about his ty play because well, what do you expect from a "dumb " Also, I'm sure you've heard of the incidents I went through last season during the Spurs/Mavs series when two drunk hicks spat in my face because they were so ing pissed off about a stupid loss...or getting stuck in an elevator with a bunch of Spurs fans cussing and screaming a couple of inches from my face on the way down. Oh, but I've heard the defensive response from some here: "Yeah, like those attacks were unprovoked." Heads up, it's not just Dallas, it's not just San Antonio. It may feel that way because the tension between both teams has heated up recently, but it really isn't "JUST the Mavs fans" just like I know it's not "JUST the Spurs fans" who h ave morons in their fanbase. I'm sure there are fans of every sports team that has gone to a different arena and experienced such crap, try not to let your distaste for the Mavs and their fans belie your judgment into thinking that it's only in the AAC where such incidents occur.

[monosylab1k]

i don't think hardly anything that goes on with fans in Dallas or San Antonio can really be considered "boorish" behavior. some of it may be unfortunate, but try going to a soccer match in Europe.

[ponky]

i really don't see how this is a problem. booing your own guys if they are playing like is completely justified in my opinion. when i go to games, i make it a point to boo erick dampier's useless money-sucking ass every time he checks in. if these guys are playing like they deserve nothing more. booing in itself is not wrong at all, and part of the fun of going to a game.

it only becomes a problem when people are disrespectful to other fans watching the game, and when they boo for completely wrong/ignorant reasons. booing Finley was completely classless and one of the most embarrassing moments in Mavericks history as far as i'm concerned.

because i don't want to hear the two big dudes next to me, who are also season ticketholders yelling "kobe, you ing rapist" or "pass the ball you ing re " or booing whenever stack enters the game all night AND all season long

and yeah, i agree, booing finley was classless, i felt so bad for him but then again, i'm not necessarily surprised because there are some asshole fans out there

[Agloco]

i don't think hardly anything that goes on with fans in Dallas or San Antonio can really be considered "boorish" behavior. some of it may be unfortunate, but try going to a soccer match in Europe.

Yeppers............ even the kids get in on the act over there.

[mabber]

Please, I've heard about the spitting incident a thousand times just like I'm sure you've heard of my numerous retellings of the Spurs fan calling Najera a "dumb " and not letting up about his ty play because well, what do you expect from a "dumb " Also, I'm sure you've heard of the incidents I went through last season during the Spurs/Mavs series when two drunk hicks spat in my face because they were so ing pissed off about a stupid loss...or getting stuck in an elevator with a bunch of Spurs fans cussing and screaming a couple of inches from my face on the way down. Oh, but I've heard the defensive response from some here: "Yeah, like those attacks were unprovoked." Heads up, it's not just Dallas, it's not just San Antonio. It may feel that way because the tension between both teams has heated up recently, but it really isn't "JUST the Mavs fans" just like I know it's not "JUST the Spurs fans" who h ave morons in their fanbase. I'm sure there are fans of every sports team that has gone to a different arena and experienced such crap, try not to let your distaste for the Mavs and their fans belie your judgment into thinking that it's only in the AAC where such incidents occur.

I agree. I've written this before but I find it amazing that people draw a conclusion on an entire fan base from one or even two unfortunate incidents. I've had stuff thrown at me in San Antonio at two separate games and I certainly didn't do anything to warrant those actions. I don't think Spurs fans are terrible because of a few morons at those particular games

[ponky]

i don't think hardly anything that goes on with fans in Dallas or San Antonio can really be considered "boorish" behavior. some of it may be unfortunate, but try going to a soccer match in Europe.

that's different though, it's expected of fans and they are way more drunk and buzzed before the game than american fans are at basketball games and they REALLY are all into the game, not just there for show and it's a much larger crowd of 100K so half the time you can't even tell what the is going on or hear anything coherent, at least i never could

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Is Finley expected to be the second best player on the team? If not, then YES expectations are lowered for Finley.

And after the first month of this season you're telling me that you thought Finley was making a great contribution to your team? I must have been watching alot more Spurs basketball than you.

Finley was already making a good contribution to the spurs last year. nothing has changed. Dallas made a mistake by letting him go. Hence, the reason Cuban wants him back.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Why? Because I'm right? you.

Mavs are gone for real. Whether you accept it or not. They can't have the same roster next year. Everybody knows that. And Dirk sucks. He can shoot 3s but have smaller players dictating what he's going to do next.

[Findog]

Dallas made a mistake by letting him go. Hence, the reason Cuban wants him back.

Mavericks saved $50 million in luxury tax and they had no control over his destination. And Finley hasn't helped the Spurs beat Dallas, nor would he have helped against Golden State, so I don't see how it was a mistake. And take it from me and my username, I'm the biggest Fin fan around.

[saporvida]

Oh that's right, Spurs fans don't go to their games or even sell out playoff games, my bad.

we might have a few empty seats in the house but yall got thousands...

how's that playoff run going for your mavs? oh wait... 8th seed, that's right i almost forgot.

People that boo Avery in San Antonio are the same kind of people that boo Finley in Dallas, casual fans who don't appreciate a guy for the time he played with the team.

i boo avery but then again i never liked his preaching ass to begin with. didn't like him as a spur so i don't know why i'd like him now. mediocre p.o.s. he was...

[Findog]

Mavs are gone for real. Whether you accept it or not.

Dirk is 29. Howard is 26. Harris is 25. Diop is 23 or 24. Golden State was a 4 or 5 seed after the trade, that series was NOT David vs. Goliath. Mavs window of opportunity with the current group is still open.

They can't have the same roster next year.

Well duh, every roster undergoes some turnover year to year. And like 28 other teams, Dallas has to figure out ways to get better.

And Dirk sucks. He can shoot 3s but have smaller players dictating what he's going to do next.

Jeez, he certainly sucked against Golden State, but I would think Spurs fans would know better than to write the guy off. He's owned your team.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Mavericks saved $50 million in luxury tax and they had no control over his destination. And Finley hasn't helped the Spurs beat Dallas, nor would he have helped against Golden State, so I don't see how it was a mistake. And take it from me and my username, I'm the biggest Fin fan around.

Granted. He didn't play well in that particular series.