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  1. #76
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    The only way to achieve that was for Amare and Boris to not break the rules.

    Stay near the bench.
    Ok, we can go back and forth Amare, Horry, Diaw, Stern. The question is are Spurs fans happy that this was the outcome? I dont think so. I know you love your Spurs. Im not asking for you to stick up for them.

  2. #77
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    I agree to some extent. Their whining is the reason for the contempt, at least in my case. If they had taken the loss with humility, and perhaps ed about the rule instead of insulting the Spurs' integrity, then I honestly would not hold any grudge. They are a great team, ing and whining aside.

    Mike, you really do seem like a stand up dude, but you're trying to excuse bull behavior. Its alright to feel like after losing a series like that, but Suns fans didn't have to crap all over the Spurs because of it.

    I still think your board is way too strict, you should really lighten up on the banning. Other than that, I hope you find it in yourself to stick around and discuss basketball here. Like someone before said, knowledgeable Suns fans are always welcome. I know you don't like all the profanity going around in this board, and thats understandable, it really is, but we have some insightful posters here that don't resort to insults to make their point. I for one have to work on that but some things get on my nerves, and the cursing just comes natural. Either way, hope you stay.

    I agree as well. But we crapped all over you guys because we feel something was stolen from us...it's so hard to wait all year for the playoffs with so much hope, and then to have it cruelly ripped from your grasp.

    I know you can understand that.

    We know deep down it's not your fault. Sure, we'll hate Robert Horry forever, but we did already We know Amare should sit down, the guy is a loose cannon and can't even stay out of freaking foul trouble.

    I'm not excusing our behavior...but there are a few things that were frustrating in this series which really brought it out.

    1. Bruce Bowen is a great defender, but he had his hands on Nash about 95% of the time and we all know hand checking was supposed to be a foul now, but they weren't calling it. It definitely hindered Nash and that's why he was so frustrated with calls sometimes, yelling at the refs.

    (yes, I know he can flop a bit, but half the time I think he flops on those charges so that he doesn't get severely injured )

    And also the kick on Amare's foot and the knee to Nash's groin. Ouch.

    2. The suspensions which never would have happened if Horry had just grabbed him like everyone else did. But, he didn't make our guys jump up.


    It was just a hard series. And even if the Suns would have never won it regardless of the suspensions, I just WISH I could have seen that series.

    Mike

  3. #78
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    So you just want sympathy? Understanding? Pity? For acting childish and pathetic? Tough. Grow up.
    I don't want it...I just was hoping you guys would at least get where we are coming from and not trash us like we're idiots (even though some of us are )

    I'm fine with all this, no growing up needed

  4. #79
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    Spurs fans, Spurs fans, Spurs fans, I have lived in Phoenix all of my life and am very much a SUNS fan. This is the hardest year I can remember being a fan. It just plain hurts, BECAUSE WE GOT SCREWED!!!
    Im not here to change your mind.(dont believe me) I love the NBA. I dont blame the Spurs(or their fans). I hate the double standard!! By now the SUNS fans are ready to overcome!
    I even like Stern. for the most part. I believe he makes a basketball first decision 98% of the time. If you wanna bash me for being a SUNS fan, I understand. Lets look at things the way they are. Because of a play that went after our MVP by Robert Horry. (who the SUNS hate any way) The SUNS got penalized more than called for. I wanted a sreies that was as pure as possible and I think the only way to achieve that was a game seven. If the SUNS lost in a game seven when all players were there, believe me or not we wouldnt feel as slighted.
    SUNS in 2008!!! I sound like a CARDS fan. GO SUNS!!!



    Like NASH said " NOW WE WILL NEVER KNOW"


    I'm so tired of the assumption that you guys would've won at "full strength".


    As much as Sun fan hates to admit it, the two people most responsible for their early offseason are (in no particular order)




  5. #80
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    i didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the new suns fans, outside of DirtMcGirt (if he was new, i can't remember). the older ones that stuck like xylus, jmark, billscarnage, azlouis, etc always brought something to the table. even RonMexico is good for humor most of the time.

  6. #81
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    hahahahah

    I'd ban you over there too for a post like this
    I know you would. You prove to be the you are painted as. If it wasn't for the baseball talk your site would be completely worthless. You better go ban some more people, right now you have a drunken idiot threatening to fight people. I find you to be a person of very low morality. Keep hiding behind your bible.

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    I hope the Suns have a productive offseason.

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    What's strange is how they jump all over Amare and Diaw for being stupid and immature. The spurs owe their victory to the stupidity and immaturity, oh, and Sterns heavily biased decision. Let it go.

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    Ok, we can go back and forth Amare, Horry, Diaw, Stern.
    Except you will never be able to explain why the rules shouldn't apply to your team.
    The question is are Spurs fans happy that this was the outcome? I dont think so.
    You're wrong. I'm quite happy.
    I know you love your Spurs. Im not asking for you to stick up for them.
    Stay near the bench.

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    What's strange is how they jump all over Amare and Diaw for being stupid and immature. The spurs owe their victory to the stupidity and immaturity, oh, and Sterns heavily biased decision. Let it go.
    You've never explained how it was "heavily biased."

    And acting like Stern made the decision is entertaining for conspiracists, but wholly inaccurate.

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    I'm so tired of the assumption that you guys would've won at "full strength".


    As much as Sun fan hates to admit it, the two people most responsible for their early offseason are (in no particular order)
    Now I never said that we would have won, You did. I just said I wanted to see a pure game.

  12. #87
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    I know you would. You prove to be the you are painted as. If it wasn't for the baseball talk your site would be completely worthless. You better go ban some more people, right now you have a drunken idiot threatening to fight people. I find you to be a person of very low morality. Keep hiding behind your bible.

    You seem to be someone over there who hasn't got the guts to tell me who you really are...throwing around insults like that.

    Step up...what's your username over there?

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    Except you will never be able to explain why the rules shouldn't apply to your team.You're wrong. I'm quite happy.Stay near the bench.
    All I can say is... Are you even in High school yet? Grow up.

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    Addendum:
    Not just blatant trolling, however, those who insist are claiming that us Suns fans do not have a illegitimate gripe and contest any remarks in that regards will be banned. We have every right to rant/vent. This ruling is emphatic expletive, expletive.....
    illegitimate????

    you got that right, it is a VERY VERY illegitimate gripe. Talk about a FREUDIAN slip

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    All I can say is... Are you even in High school yet? Grow up.
    You asked if I was happy with the outcome. I said yes.

    And my point that sunfan has never made a credible case why NBA rules shouldn't apply to their players is completely valid.

    Since you want to make this about me, I can only conclude that you have no real argument concerning the conference semifinal series.

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    You've never explained how it was "heavily biased."
    Because I can't. I wasn't on the inside.
    And acting like Stern made the decision is entertaining for conspiracists, but wholly inaccurate.
    Not likely to get to the bottom of the decision. I was just commenting on how sports fans and networks keep bringing it up. Why do they do that?

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    You asked if I was happy with the outcome. I said yes.

    And my point that sunfan has never made a credible case why NBA rules shouldn't apply to their players is completely valid.

    Since you want to make this about me, I can only conclude that you have no real argument concerning the conference semifinal series.
    What are you talking about? I never said that! All I said is I wanted to see as pure as a game as possible. Are you saying all of this because I am a SUNS fan? I know the SUNS will be back next year. I am just hurt on the outcomes of this season. Not just the suspensions.

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    Thank you for that admission.

    Not likely to get to the bottom of the decision.
    What is there to get to the bottom of? The action was reviewed and the folks that enforce the rules enforced them. Stern doesn't review tape.
    I was just commenting on how sports fans and networks keep bringing it up. Why do they do that?
    Everyone enjoys ing about something. Why not this?

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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wsupkid



    Ok, we can go back and forth Amare, Horry, Diaw, Stern.

    Except you will never be able to explain why the rules shouldn't apply to your team.
    Quote:



    The question is are Spurs fans happy that this was the outcome? I dont think so.

    You're wrong. I'm quite happy.
    Quote:



    I know you love your Spurs. Im not asking for you to stick up for them.

    Stay near the bench.

    The above is why I said grow up.

  20. #95
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    What are you talking about? I never said that! All I said is I wanted to see as pure as a game as possible.
    And your inference was that the game would have been "pure" had the bench rules that have been in effect for over a decade not applied to your team.
    Are you saying all of this because I am a SUNS fan?
    I say this to pretty much anyone who is still whining about the bench rule.
    I know the SUNS will be back next year.
    How do you KNOW?
    I am just hurt on the outcomes of this season. Not just the suspensions.
    What does that mean? What else "hurt" you?

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    Thank you for that admission.
    You're welcome. It's just that the question keeps coming up to Stern and me thinks he duth protest too much.
    Everyone enjoys ing about something. Why not this?
    How about "Why this"? Why has this become the focus from coast to coast?

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    No, that wasn't me.

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    Team: Atlanta Hawks.

    I can see that all you want is to start crap. Im done with you. I will give my view points and talk to someone less confrontational.

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    It's just that the question keeps coming up to Stern and me thinks he duth protest too much.
    He answers the questions. What else is he supposed to do?

    How about "Why this"? Why has this become the focus from coast to coast?
    Widespread ignorance of NBA rules and the reasons for their existence.

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    I can see that all you want is to start crap. Im done with you. I will give my view points and talk to someone less confrontational.
    Good luck with that.

    Try whining less.

  25. #100
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    I'm going to whine about this until someone on this board agrees with me, but since that isn't going to happen -- because I don't really have any sort of a rational or logical argument -- I'm going to complain about how I'm being treated by someone who makes a straightforward and consistent argument all the while dodging the question about why the league should treat my team and its players differently than every other team in the league.
    fixed.

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