Manu quote on Fisher

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Manu is the best flopper in the NBA. He sells it so well it's hard to distinguish when he's doing it.

Obviously, guys like Sideshow Bob do it more, but no one does it better than Manu.

[The Truth #6]

Of course Manu is a huge flopper but when Fisher bumped was not one of those times. Manu moved out of the way to avoid an escalation. The flop was when Fisher mysteriously dove out of the way when he heard the whistle. It's like Pavlovian response with him. Hear whistle=flail, just to be safe. I wonder what its like when he goes to other sporting events? The ref blows the whistle at a football game and Fisher spills his beer all over his lap while going into a seizure?

Fisher was totally trying to bump Manu for cheap effect. Manu does lots of stuff but nothing I EVER remember after the play is over. Manu would never bump into someone while running down the court. No, Manu would elbow you in the face while taking it to the rim. I personally find a difference in that. Others, perhaps, don't.

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at pistons fans trying to get in their complaints now just in case Manu starts to own them in the Finals.

[timvp]

Manu is one of a flopper and uses that attribute well. I don't think any Spurs fan can say otherwise.

Although last night against the Jazz (outside of that Flop that led to the Fisher technical), Manu earned his free throws by getting hammered repeatedly. So yeah, one of his 13 second half free throws was because of flopping.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

at pistons fans trying to get in their complaints now just in case Manu starts to own them in the Finals.

It's not a complaint, it's the truth. Just like Chauncey palming the ball, Rip traveling and flopping as well, Sheed whining, etc.

The only call where I couldn't really tell if MG got hit was the on the first 3 shot foul. All the others looked like good calls, IMO.

And complaining about Manu doing it makes no sense. He isn't the one who blows the whistle...

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It's not a complaint, it's the truth. Just like Chauncey palming the ball, Rip traveling and flopping as well, Sheed whining, etc.

The only call where I couldn't really tell if MG got hit was the on the first 3 shot foul. All the others looked like good calls, IMO.

And complaining about Manu doing it makes no sense. He isn't the one who blows the whistle...

That one looked legit to me. The sixth Fisher foul looked like he anticipated the contact and fell, but someone said Fisher made contact with his head. I didn't see that part.

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Manu is one of a flopper and uses that attribute well. I don't think any Spurs fan can say otherwise.

Although last night against the Jazz (outside of that Flop that led to the Fisher technical), Manu earned his free throws by getting hammered repeatedly. So yeah, one of his 13 second half free throws was because of flopping.

Didn't he get four free throws for that one?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The flopping in the NBA is at an all-time high, but it still doesn't bug me as much as all the palming/carrying the ball and traveling they let go. It's horrible. I don't think I can remember a time where Chauncey or CP3 brought the ball up court without palming the ball, repeatedly.

It's such an easy call, much easier than flopping, yet they don't call it anymore.

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The problem with flopping is that some guys are doing it place of playing good defense. Devin Harris has become downright embarassing to watch. It's like someone told him to become a bad imitation of Duncan and Manu's worst traits. It's too bad because he's quick enough to draw real charges. Nash throws himself in front of a moving guy while he's already falling backwards and gets calls the league should never give him because he's a "superstar" now. It's no coincidence that when the league sent out the video of the proper way to draw a charge, that Manu was on it.

The only travelling that I see has nothing to do with the game. It's the same with palming. If you call Billups for palming the ball when he's bringing it upcourt, or if you call Duncan for travelling when he gets a pass at the top of the key, they don't really gain any advantage and suddenly calling it after letting it go so long is going to screw them up. They are real infractions, though, and the league should probably make it a point of emphasis this summer and call it tight during the preseason, but they'll probably be too busy fighting Sarver over the leaving the bench rule to give it any time.

[Cry Havoc]

Manu says a big " you" to Devin Harris, Dwyane Wade, Anderson Varejao, and the Phoenix Suns. Y'all still know who the biggest ing flopper in the league is.

Dude, you're one to talk. Do you not remember the 2005 Finals, when Tony Parker sent BEN WALLACE (along with several other Pistons) flying across the court? Repeatedly? Where were you then?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

That was a charge.

[greens]

I realize every team has a flopper. I hate when Jazz guys flop, I yell "play REAL defense." That said, Ginobli's flop during the timeout while running offcourt was amazingly ridiculous, and I believe, sets a whole new precident for flopping. And it resulted in a T for Fisher? Unreal.

It was obvious that Fisher was frustrated with Manu the whole fourth quarter. And he already had a bunch of fouls and Ts and then he shoved Manu for no reason...why risk any contact at all when you're already in a bad situation? Either way, Fisher lost his composure completely. He got his second T for pushing Manu...simple as that. All he had to do was "walk" but he decided to shove into him as he was walking, all on purpose.

And honestly, I think by this time, the refs were fed up with Fisher. He was complaining non stop the whole game. After every single foul, he came over to talk to the ref. He was whining and complaining like I've never seen him before. So I think the second T was just a combination of his at ude the entire game, especially the fourth quarter.

I have a lot of respect for Derek Fisher. He's a great player...and a good person, I think. I've always liked him. But he just really surprised me in the latest game. His whole at ude was just not like himself or as I've ever seen him. And I do feel bad for his family situation, it's a horrible ordeal. And I hope all goes well for his daughter. I just didn't like Fisher's constant complaining in Monday's game. It's like he completely lost his composure. And Manu did nothing to him all game. Yet, Fisher looked ready to fight him. And in the previous game, there was that elbow that he threw to Tony Parker...

I guess all players loose their cool once in a while. Nothing wrong with it. I was just a bit surprised that it was Fisher, that's all. But I don't think he is a horrible person, but someone who was frustrated the past few games.

[Man In Black]

That video needs to be slowed down, Manu does what he always does, he dribbles with a high off arm to protect the space he wants and Fish took a pointy elbow to the chest, not a shoulder like everyone surmises. That's why he took offense and sought out Manu as he was coming back up the court. That's why Fish got the T. Because he sought him out.

[greens]

That video needs to be slowed down, Manu does what he always does, he dribbles with a high off arm to protect the space he wants and Fish took a pointy elbow to the chest, not a shoulder like everyone surmises. That's why he took offense and sought out Manu as he was coming back up the court. That's why Fish got the T. Because he sought him out.

Fisher gave a quite an elbow to Tony Parker in the previous game...and I didn't see Tony seeking him out or getting frustrated or even looking like he wanted to fight him.

It's all about control and keeping your cool. The Spurs players (esp Tony/Tim/Manu) gotten pretty beaten up all game long by the physical play of Utah. And I saw no complaints from them. They didn't look like they wanted to fight anyone...

Either way, I think it's just wasn't Fisher's game. I still like the guy. He's a veteran and a champion. And not to mention, he's going through a lot right now with his family. I just didn't like his recent at ude, that's all...but overall, he's all right.

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You guys don't think that Baron Davis elbowed Fisher high for no reason, do you? Fish gives as good as he gets. There's no victim here. He lost his cool and gave the Spurs at least ten free throws in the fourth. The only thing he accomplished besides sealing the Spurs' win is gave the whiny loser portion of the Jazz fandom an opportunity to blame the officiating for the loss.

[SouthernFried]

oh, screw this...

Manu get's hit harder than anyone else in the league...night after night. People set out to take his head off. Jazz were beating the outta the guy, like most teams do...Manu takes it night after night. A more fearless driver in the league can't be found. The man takes some serious punishment out there...and comes back for more. A compe or's compe or.

If he flops occassionaly...he's ing earned the right. Man gets beaten up every time he takes the court.

Sometimes I worry if he hasn't been hit in the head too many times. But, as long as he keeps hitting FT's

[smeagol]

Manu is one of a flopper and uses that attribute well. I don't think any Spurs fan can say otherwise.

Although last night against the Jazz (outside of that Flop that led to the Fisher technical), Manu earned his free throws by getting hammered repeatedly. So yeah, one of his 13 second half free throws was because of flopping.

95% of Manu's flops are on D. He rearely flops on O.

[ArgSpursFan]

95% of Manu's flops are on D. He rearely flops on O.

true.He is the master of the Of. fouls.

[Jelly]

There is a difference between drawing a foul and flopping. The Spurs legitimately drew all those fouls in the fourth by taking it to the rim. Your guys only got two fouls because you played stupidly. Don't believe me? Ask Wilbon, S.A.Smith, Greg Anthony, Legler even Tony Rome. All have said those 4th qtr FTs were legit.

In any case, all this flopping hurts the integrity of the game and it never used to be this bad. I think in game 3 one of the announcers even said he'd had it with all the flopping going on. I think there is a of a lot more flopping going on now because of the influence of all these international players. Americans have picked up their bad habits. That's not to say that foreigners have not enhanced the game, but they've also hurt it by so much fakery. This is why I hate soccer (besides the fact that it's dead boring). I absolutely love Manu, but I wish he would leave his Euro flopping FIBA ways behind him. He's better than that.

[Jelly]

Also, if everyone would stop this girly flopping and get off the ing floor LIKE MEN we'd stop getting all these whistles every two seconds and we'd get back to nice, fluid exciting basketball.

[cherylsteele]

Manu and Derek slightly jostling each other was not a foul, so the tech was bogus. We'd all be pissed if it had gone the other way. Bad reffing, very inconsistent, 3 qtrs of rough housing permitted, then 4th qtr much more delicacy expected. weird.

If anything it was just a foul, and not much of one, but a tech.....what exactly did Fisher do to receive a tech anyways? My fisrt thought when I saw it was....a tech, for what? I don't remember him complaining any and in reality both Fisher and Manu tried to sell the foul to the ref.

[LilMissSPURfect]

oh, screw this...

Manu get's hit harder than anyone else in the league...night after night. People set out to take his head off. Jazz were beating the outta the guy, like most teams do...Manu takes it night after night. A more fearless driver in the league can't be found. The man takes some serious punishment out there...and comes back for more. A compe or's compe or.

If he flops occassionaly...he's ing earned the right. Man gets beaten up every time he takes the court.

Sometimes I worry if he hasn't been hit in the head too many times. But, as long as he keeps hitting FT's

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! talk about da BRUISE BROTHA!
not even KOME would dare enter! GO MANU BRING IT!

[ArgSpursFan]

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I absolutely love Manu, but I wish he would leave his Euro flopping FIBA ways behind him. He's better than that.

Euro flopping(like you call it)or taking advantage,and huge knowledge of BB rules(like I would reather call it)gave the spurs 2 championships rings,and have putted the spurs franchise on top of sports in the US.
But you have to be smart to play like that.It´s just another legal tool to play the game.

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If anything it was just a foul, and not much of one, but a tech.....what exactly did Fisher do to receive a tech anyways? My fisrt thought when I saw it was....a tech, for what? I don't remember him complaining any and in reality both Fisher and Manu tried to sell the foul to the ref.

Fisher lined him up and threw his shoulder into Manu as retribution. I told my wife it was going to happen before it happened, and I'm sure the officials saw it coming. Fisher wasn't fooling anyone that was paying attention. In the replay you can see Fisher find Manu, run into his path, turn his head, stiffen his shoulder and throw his arms up wildly after the whistle. It was blatant and badly acted.

[Findog]

Fisher just go tired of being owned once again by Manu Ginobili,that´s all,He tried to get him out of his zone and pushed and hited him the whole game.Another guy mentally outplayed by manu in a playoff series.

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