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    Iglauskus, the fruit with the hair, can't stop Duncan. They have nobody to stop Parker and Manu

    Parker and Manu>>>>>>anyone on the Cavs not named Lebron.

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    I'm the only one here really scared about the Pistons? They have their streaks (like the Spurs), but when they're on, their defense makes me my pants. Even worse, they seem to manage their own tempo really well, usually controlling adverse situations.

    I know that matchup-wise they might not look dangerous against the Spurs, but I think their D is *excellent* at moments.

    The Pistons are tough...it doesn't matter how they play against other teams or how weak we think they are...they're tough...

    But I am going to be honest...Flip Saunders + Chris Webber - Larry Brown and Ben Wallace = A team that doesn't scare me as much as the 05 Defending Champion Crew.

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    Will timvp ever post an opinion on this subject?

    Or will he reamin content to be a user currently browsing this thread?

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    Donyell Marshall has been pretty dismal these playoffs.

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    Donyell Marshall has been pretty dismal these playoffs.

    espn was right about one thing...Donyell Marshall has looked like for about 10 years now...but we still don't have anyone that can guard him...he's one of those guys that can do nothing...or he can go off and destroy you. Just sayin'...we don't have anyone that can guard him.

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    whottt is on point in this thread. If the Spurs get by Utah, they'll face their biggest challenge of the playoffs in the Finals -- whether Detroit or Cleveland wins.

    Detroit is scary and every Spurs fan should know why. The Spurs were one Rasheed double team from being eliminated in six games last time the two teams met in the Finals. And even though they've lost Big Ben, they have a deeper bench and a ton of bigmen who can step in and bang with Tim.

    I think out of the top six teams in the West, the one team the Cavaliers can conceivably beat is the Spurs. Bowen isn't a good matchup for LeBron and as whotttt noted, they know the Spurs inside and out. And as we saw with AJ last year, that's a huge advantage.

    Believe me, Mike Brown and Danny Ferry would know exactly what adjustments would be made before, during and after games ... just like AJ did. And they'd know all the weaknesses the Spurs have.

    They have the Spurs' corporate knowledge and will use it to their advantage.

    With all that said, Spurs need to take care of business tomorrow.

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    You people stress too much.

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    whottt is on point in this thread. If the Spurs get by Utah, they'll face their biggest challenge of the playoffs in the Finals -- whether Detroit or Cleveland wins.

    Detroit is scary and every Spurs fan should know why. The Spurs were one Rasheed double team from being eliminated in six games last time the two teams met in the Finals. And even though they've lost Big Ben, they have a deeper bench and a ton of bigmen who can step in and bang with Tim.

    I think out of the top six teams in the West, the one team the Cavaliers can conceivably beat is the Spurs. Bowen isn't a good matchup for LeBron and as whotttt noted, they know the Spurs inside and out. And as we saw with AJ last year, that's a huge advantage.

    Believe me, Mike Brown and Danny Ferry would know exactly what adjustments would be made before, during and after games ... just like AJ did. And they'd know all the weaknesses the Spurs have.

    They have the Spurs' corporate knowledge and will use it to their advantage.

    With all that said, Spurs need to take care of business tomorrow.

    What I want to ask you...

    How good is Mike Brown?

    Was there a reason Ferry went after him instead of the other assistants?

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    LMAO thanks...I was curious to see your opinion on this.

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    What I want to ask you...

    How good is Mike Brown?

    Was there a reason Ferry went after him instead of the other assistants?
    I wasn't overly impressed with him in the games at Detroit. Especially after he got that T late in Game 2.

    But in Games 3 and 4, I've started to think he might be one of the better coaches in the league. He basically has LeBron and 11 guys who sometimes show up and sometimes don't. He's very good at mixing and matching until he find a lineup that works.

    He's kinda like Pop in that he doesn't have a set rotation. He goes with who is playing well. No matter if it's a starter or the 12th man on the bench.

    He also has the Cavs playing damn good defense. They are undefeated in the playoffs when they score 86+ points. That's the sign of a well coached team.

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    The Spurs still have Utah to contend with. This is a different team, of course, but I just get cautious having lived through a 3-1 advantage in the conference finals and then losing in 7 games to the Bullets.

    But if I'm going to play along with tlong's thread here, nobody is mentioning Hank Egan.

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    I wasn't overly impressed with him in the games at Detroit. Especially after he got that T late in Game 2.

    But in Games 3 and 4, I've started to think he might be one of the better coaches in the league. He basically has LeBron and 11 guys who sometimes show up and sometimes don't. He's very good at mixing and matching until he find a lineup that works.

    He's kinda like Pop in that he doesn't have a set rotation. He goes with who is playing well. No matter if it's a starter or the 12th man on the bench.

    He also has the Cavs playing damn good defense. They are undefeated in the playoffs when they score 86+ points. That's the sign of a well coached team.

    As far as the 86+ point stat. They play in the east. It is not known for its explosive offense these days.

    The way this thread is sounding we are about to take a time machine back to face MJ and the Bulls.

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    The Cavs scare me..They know our system inside and out from the FO on down...

    How do the Cavs know so much about the Spurs FO on down? Please explain...

    Ummmm...never mind... I just had to keep reading the thread. LOL

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    The Spurs dispatch either team in no more than 6 games. Would be five except for the idiotic 2-3-2 finals schedule. Neither team has near the offensive firepower of the Suns and only the Pistons play much better defense. The Cavs have been turning to James jacking up fade away threes and clanking at the end of games, and the Pistons haven't even been good enough to take advantage because they're taking stupid shots as well. I swear the Pistons are playing like they've never been in a conference finals before. It appears taking away Larry and Ben from the '05 team and adding the soft ass Webber and goofy Flip really did a number on those guy's ability to close people out. If either team plays like they have in the PO so far against the Spurs they get bounced in 5 if the Spurs play at the same level they've been at.

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    How do the Cavs know so much about the Spurs FO on down? Please explain.

    Ex SPur Danny Ferry is their GM(He was on the 03 Championship Team and an exec with the Spurs the year after that) and the guy who hired Mike Brown...who was an assistant coach on the 03 and 05 teams.



    When the Cavs started building their team...they stole from the best. And as evidenced by the fact thay they have that team on the verge of the finals after 2 years...they aren't fools.

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    Damn, I know matchups make a series, but does anyone here actually think these two teams are even playing at the level the Suns were? Even the Nuggets or Jazz? I don't think it's close. No team is invincible or unbeatable, but in a 7 game series in which the Spurs have HCA - either one would have to raise their level of play tenfold to win that series.

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    Ex SPur Danny Ferry is their GM(He was on the 03 Championship Team and an exec with the Spurs the year after that) and the guy who hired Mike Brown...who was an assistant coach on the 03 and 05 teams.



    When the Cavs started building their team...they stole from the best. And as evidenced by the fact thay they have that team on the verge of the finals after 2 years...they aren't fools.
    I'm pretty sure Brown wasn't a part of the 05 team, he was in Indy before he was in Cle

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    Ex SPur Danny Ferry is their GM(He was on the 03 Championship Team and an exec with the Spurs the year after that) and the guy who hired Mike Brown...who was an assistant coach on the 03 and 05 teams.



    When the Cavs started building their team...they stole from the best. And as evidenced by the fact thay they have that team on the verge of the finals after 2 years...they aren't fools.
    You put the Cavs in the western conference and they don't get out of the 1st round. They likely get bounced by the Jazz or Nuggets. The eastern conference is so bad that the Cavs are actually in the finals of that conference. That says a lot about the conference, not the team.

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    I'm pretty sure Brown wasn't a part of the 05 team, he was in Indy before he was in Cle
    Now that you mention it...I think you're right, he was with the Pacers...damn for some reason I thought he got pulled straight from the Spurs by Ferry.

    Ok...so Ferry isn't as big of a traitor as I thought...

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    You put the Cavs in the western conference and they don't get out of the 1st round. They likely get bounced by the Jazz or Nuggets. The eastern conference is so bad that the Cavs are actually in the finals of that conference. That says a lot about the conference, not the team.

    I think the Cavs are a better team than the Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers and Warriors...and I think they match up with us better than Phoenix.


    I'd say they are, at worst, the 4th or 5th best team in the playoffs...

    Spurs
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    I think the Cavs are a better team than the Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, Lakers and Warriors...and I think they match up with us better than Phoenix.


    I'd say they are, at worst, the 4th or 5th best team in the playoffs...

    Spurs
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    I disagree. I think the Jazz and Nuggets could definitely beat them in a series and that the Mavs, Suns, and Spurs would deal with them in less than 7 with no issue. I've watched the team play many times over the season and here in the playoffs, but I'm not impressed with their ability to get it done against a quality opponent when it counts. I think this game tonight speaks more to how much the Pistons have fallen off than to where the Cavs are. We'll see over the next two - I fully expect the Pistons to protect HC and find a way to take a game 6 when the Cavs once again rely on James jacking up fade away threes in crunch time.

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    I think you guys are seriously underestimating that advantage a guy going to a new team has against his old organization...


    Sin,

    Us last year, the Mavs this year


    Hopefully Pop will send Nelly a ring....and the Cavs are a of a lot better team than the Warriors.

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    Like the Jazz and Warriors, the Cavs are a very weak road team, under .500, 20-21 on the season, a very good indication of the team's fundamental weakness.

    The two EC teams with the best season road records are now playing in the ECF (but neither has been able to win on the ECF road).

    Spurs had "no answer" for Amare, he got 37 PPG in 05 vs Spurs, but the Spurs took down the Suns 4-1.

    The "playoff Spurs" having no answer for LBJ, who's geting only 20 PPG vs Pistons and 25 PPG all playoffs, isn't a huge concern.

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    I think you guys are seriously underestimating that advantage a guy going to a new team has against his old organization...


    Sin,

    Us last year, the Mavs this year


    Hopefully Pop will send Nelly a ring....and the Cavs are a of a lot better team than the Warriors.
    The Mavs last year were a of a lot better than the Cavs this year. The matchup was worse for the Spurs and the opponent was far better. The Cavs don't have the shooters or offensive firepower of that Mav team, and it took 2 horrendously called 4th quarters to swing the balance to the Mavs. I'm not saying that it's a given against either team, but both the Cavs and Pistons would have to bring a of a lot more and get guys who have sucked royally all PO long to all of a sudden step up. Either that or the Spurs completely go to , but 3 Finals appearances say otherwise there.

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