let me take a wild guess, whott supports the war in Iraq![]()
Um...I didn't start ripping Finley profoundly until we were up 2-0 against the Jazz..when he was playing prettty well.
I am bashing him and predicting failure based entirely on my historical view of him..
But seriously...you guys are so ing stupid that you don't see that no one plays well or consistently from that spot Pop has Barry in now...including Finley.
Now then...why don't you guys go bump some Devin Brown appreciation threads...and tell me who got owned.
Well Finley is shooting better and defending better, so.... How compelling.
That's excactly what he is right now...a choker who hasn't choked yet...this season.
That's the evil that is Michael Finley...he plays good enough to deserve to be on the court when it matters most...it's then he chokes.
See...Barry can choke and it will never register on the team's performance...
When Finley chokes, he's going to take enough shots to make it matter...at the worst possible time...Finley does not pass.
It's not hard to see Finley chokes when it matters most...all you have to do is watch his performances in the playoffs with the Mavs...he's a big reason they always choked.
Finley is the type of guy that will go 7-10 in a game 7...and all 3 of those misses will be in the final minute of the game...no passing...I don't care if Duncan is standing there screaming for the ball.
You didn't start this thread until we lost a game.
Right. Those 22 minutes per game are the only factor that could possibily determine victory or defeat. Nothing else.I am bashing him and predicting failure based entirely on my historical view of him..
So now we'll blame Pop too.But seriously...you guys are so ing stupid that you don't see that no one plays well or consistently from that spot Pop has Barry in now...including Finley.
Wow, whottt -- you must really be scurred. You've tried to change the subject four times now.Now then...why don't you guys go bump some Devin Brown appreciation threads...and tell me who got owned.
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Right. Since I wasn't asking about choking and you changed the subject to choking....
In summary...Finley is the worst kind of choker...he's one that wants to take the last shot.
He hasn't gotten his ring yet, but he is a class act as you say. I've had the pleasure of meeting him and he is a great guy. Anything but a " " as whottt tags him.
Sad around here.
I don't get why whottt is ing and insulting him. Pretty lame, but fans are en led to their opinions.
I love Michael Finley and am thrilled at the prospect of him getting a shot at a ring.
LMAO I am not even going to argue with you about whether or not he's a chucker...that's a silly argument.
That mother er is a bigger black hole than Malik with Duncan and Drob out of the game.
Just keep in mind...
timvp, Chump...
They had their tongues so far up Devin Brown's ass in 05, Devin's still smiling from it...
Meanwhile...
Devin Brown will never play for the Spurs again - Pop 2007.
2005 le won...I think Devin's only PT was because Beno had to tie his shoelaces.
whott don't make me you and embarrass you
So Pop's opinion matters to you now?
Finley plays and Barry doesn't - Pop 2007.
It's ok whottt, I thought we could win with either Barry or Devin playing those minutes.
I even think we could win this year with Barry playing Fin's minutes.
I don't hate Barry and I wouldn't wish the Spurs to lose if he played.
Mike Finley ed up my defending championship team and cost us a repeat last year.
Plus he's a Mav to the core to me.
Plus he cheapshooted Bowen...and whined like a about him.
Seriously...Smitty was a class guy...do a forum search sometime and see how these same Finley defenders viewed him.
Personally I like Smitty better...at least you know he's going to choke...
Devin plays and Barry doesn't - Pop 2005...prior to Devin getting injured.
I traded Stever Kerr away before I traded to bring him back - Pop 2003
His(Oberto's) coach was stupid - Pop 2006
So we should never listen to Pop.
It's easy for whottt to win an argument when he takes both sides.
Hey Pop has his moments(of agreeing with me)...they usually result in championships...
Your defending championship team? OUR defending championship team. Like many others here on this board, I also buy tickets to games, merchandise and support this team in many ways.
Finley worked his ass off in last year's playoffs. I thought he did a very good job.
Like I said, you're en led to your opinion, so I'll leave it at that.
Congratulations, coach.
Pop makes mistakes...but he eventually learns from them...unlike some.
Hedo was a class guy...didn't get him any slack.
Ditto Smitty
Were you even reading the forum earlier in the season when Finley was sucking, like, last month? Half these guys I am arguing with now were ripping him worse than I am.
Guys, guys, this is just an act.
As much as whottt's gonna deny it, he's just saying this so Finley doesn't choke, and whottt can take credit for it!
Book it.
I thought Finley played pretty well in the series against us as well.
Dallas 103, San Antonio 91
Miracle Mavs Pull Off Stunning Victory
With nothing to lose, the Dallas Mavericks figured they would try some defense.
Using constantly changing defensive schemes and an inspirational performance from Michael Finley, the Mavericks somehow stayed alive in the Western Conference Finals with a 103-91 Game 5 victory over the stunned San Antonio Spurs.
The Spurs-Nets rhetoric will have to wait at least two more days. Dallas closed to 3-2 with the fourth road win in the series and has Game 6 on its home floor Thursday.
Perhaps Mavs All-Star forward Dirk Nowitzki will be ready by then. Nowitzki went down with a sprained left knee late in Game 3 and was expected to miss at least 10 days.
"I would say we should call him doubtful," Mavs coach Don Nelson said. "The longer the series goes, the better chance he could play."
"If you have half a brain, you realize how important a game like this is," said Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, whose team will be looking for its third straight Game 6 road win.
Finley, who has become somewhat obscured by the star power of Nowitzki and All-Star guard Steve Nash, scored 15 of his 31 points in the third quarter, when the Mavs began their march back from a 17-point deficit.
"That's my role on this team," Finley said. "My stats might not be as good as they were a couple years ago (but) I still feel that I'm the leader of this team. Vocally, I may not be as expressive as some leaders are, but by example I think I can lead this team and they feed off of that."
In a terrific all-around game, Finley made 9-of-14 shots and 12-of-12 free throws. He also set a tone of toughness that his fellow Mavs followed with eight rebounds and five steals, both team highs.
But the key was Nelson's defense. Hiding his team's shortcomings -- height-wise and otherwise -- Nelson used an array of zones and switching man-to-man schemes that smothered Tim Duncan and put the pressure on his teammates to makes shots. They didn't.
"We couldn't seem to stop them man-to-man, so we went to zone and looked more effective," Nelson said. "In the fourth quarter, we stayed with it instead of going back to man-to-man."
"We've zoned them in previous games, but not as successfully," Finley said. "We weren't aggressive enough and seemed to relax a little. You can't do that against the league MVP. Tonight, we were more aggressive in our traps and our rotation."
The Spurs scored just one basket -- a dunk by Duncan off a great save by David Robinson -- in the first 9½ minutes of the fourth quarter. During that stretch, they watched an 81-74 advantage evaporate and become a 97-86 deficit.
"It sorta looked like we thought somebody was going to give us something," Popovich said. "That lack of maturity hurt us."
Duncan had 23 points, 15 rebounds and six assists but got very little help in the second half. The Spurs scored just 10 points in the fourth quarter.
"They dropped back into that zone," Duncan said. "You miss a couple of shots and they start to come back. You try to make it up in hurry."
"We see everything that you can see on Tim," Spurs forward Malik Rose said. "Maybe the timing and how hard they did it was a bit different. They really came at him hard in the fourth quarter and were not going to let him beat them."
Nick Van Exel scored 21 points and Nash added 14 for the Mavs, who made all 23 of their free throws and actually held a 42-38 edge on the boards, where they have been pounded all series.
"They never really put us away," Van Exel said. "They had lots of chances to put the nail in the coffin, but they never did."
In the first half, the Mavs looked as if they were holding the nail steady for the Spurs. They trailed 30-23 after one period and 44-25 early in the second quarter after the San Antonio put together a 12-0 run.
Dallas was so desperate it again began intentionally fouling Bruce Bowen, who again made them pay by sinking 4-of-6 free throws. In the series, the Mavs have hacked Bowen 10 times. The 40 percent foul shooter has made 14-of-20 free throws, while Dallas has scored on just one of the ensuing possessions.
"It's a ploy," Nelson said. "I thought he was shooting well -- even the two he missed, he shot well. It was a ploy I thought was useful at the time, because anything was better than what was happening."
But the change in tempo seemed to get the Spurs off their game. They made just one basket in the last six minutes of the first half, settling for a 58-47 lead -- which they rebuilt to 66-49 on consecutive baskets by Duncan early in the third period.
That's when Finley got going, and soon after his teammates got into the act. His 3-pointer made it 72-64 with 4:47 left, and two free throws by Eduardo Najera inched the Mavs within 78-72 with 1:12 to go.
"When their turns came, they were anxious to make something happen," Finley said. "They brought it home in the fourth quarter."
Nash made a clock-beating, running floater in the lane over Duncan and a 3-pointer in a 9-2 spurt that opened the final period and tied the game. A dunk by Najera at the 7:33 mark gave the Mavs their first lead at 85-84, and they never gave it back.
Van Exel made a runner and 3-pointer around Duncan's dunk, and Nash made another improbable shot, this time stepping back for a rainbow jumper and a 92-86 lead with 4:26 left.
Van Exel made two free throws, then dove to steal the inbounds pass and drew a foul while shooting an alleged 3-pointer. Three more from the line made it 97-86 with 2:32 to go and sent most of the SBC Center crowd of 18,797 heading for the exits.
Walt Williams had 12 points and eight boards and Najera added 11 and eight for Dallas, which shot 43 percent (36-of-83).
Stephen Jackson scored 20 points, Rose added 14 and Bowen 12 for the Spurs, who shot 44 percent (31-of-70). Tony Parker, who had been averaging nearly 23 points per game in the series, managed just seven.
"Coming into the second half, I took it upon myself defending Parker when he tries to be more aggressive," Finley said. "I wanted to pick him up full court and make him go against me more 1-on-1 and take them out of their flow."
Come now, he's had good AND bad performances in the playoffs. Did the Spurs and Manu specifically not "choke" up a 3 point lead in Game 7 last year?
Labeling guys like Kobe as "clutch" when he takes Game 7 off and Dirk and Finley "chokes" while ignoring their entire body of work is just stupid.
I think Finley's a choker...
I hope he proves me wrong...
I really do...
I am not rooting for the Spurs to lose....I am not rooting for Finley to choke. I hope I'm wrong...as it is much more rewarding see your team win a championship than being able to say you were right about them not winning it...if we don't win and he chokes...you guys will neve hear the end of it in future arguments...if he does win...I'll be a happy board idiot.
Unlike Fin...I am willing to take one for the team...no pout necessary.
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