Amare sticks to his guns: Spurs dirty, Suns should be in finals

[Johnny RIngo]

Suns Suspensions Bring '97 Knicks to Mind

The Phoenix Suns have only themselves to blame after Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw were suspended last night for leaving the bench during the final seconds of the Suns' Game 4 win over San Antonio.

Ten years ago, the Knicks had their season ruined when Patrick Ewing was suspended one game in a second round playoff series against Miami for leaving the bench. Larry Johnson, Allan Houston and John Starks raced off the bench to break up the fight between Charlie Ward and P.J. Brown, while Ewing wandered just a few feet from the bench before being told by Buck Williams to get off the court.

The rule was established to prevent players from escalating an altercation. Rather than three referees having to possibly worry about 30 players on the court at one time, the officials and the respective coaches have a chance to control 10 players.

During his weekly appearance on NBA TV Tuesday night, Ewing said he was "pissed" when the league ruled him ineligible for Game 6 against Miami, along with Ward and Houston, while Johnson and Starks served their suspensions in Game 7.

I still believe had Starks and Ewing had the chance to play together in either Game 6 or 7, the Knicks would have defeated an inferior Miami Heat team. Starks, you may remember, was the league's Sixth Man of the Year in 1996-97.

The Ewing suspension cost the Knicks a chance to face Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls in the Eastern Conference Finals. It would have been an epic series since both teams were clearly the best in the East. (I think the Knicks would have won in six games.)

Does the rule need to be altered? It seems only logical that as long as the player in question never comes close to being involved in the fracas a suspension is not necessary. Ewing, Stoudemire and Diaw all moved toward the scrum but all three quickly retreated and avoided contact with the players currently on the floor.

The Knicks and Ewing were burned by the letter of the law. The Suns had 10 years to get it right and one moment in a great playoff series may have cost them their best chance at an NBA le. Ewing and the Knicks know the feeling.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Shred,

What other NBA rules do you think the league should exercise discretion on when it comes to star players?

[Shred]

Suns Suspensions Bring '97 Knicks to Mind

The Phoenix Suns have only themselves to blame after Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw were suspended last night for leaving the bench during the final seconds of the Suns' Game 4 win over San Antonio.

Ten years ago, the Knicks had their season ruined when Patrick Ewing was suspended one game in a second round playoff series against Miami for leaving the bench. Larry Johnson, Allan Houston and John Starks raced off the bench to break up the fight between Charlie Ward and P.J. Brown, while Ewing wandered just a few feet from the bench before being told by Buck Williams to get off the court.

The rule was established to prevent players from escalating an altercation. Rather than three referees having to possibly worry about 30 players on the court at one time, the officials and the respective coaches have a chance to control 10 players.

During his weekly appearance on NBA TV Tuesday night, Ewing said he was "pissed" when the league ruled him ineligible for Game 6 against Miami, along with Ward and Houston, while Johnson and Starks served their suspensions in Game 7.

I still believe had Starks and Ewing had the chance to play together in either Game 6 or 7, the Knicks would have defeated an inferior Miami Heat team. Starks, you may remember, was the league's Sixth Man of the Year in 1996-97.

The Ewing suspension cost the Knicks a chance to face Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls in the Eastern Conference Finals. It would have been an epic series since both teams were clearly the best in the East. (I think the Knicks would have won in six games.)

Does the rule need to be altered? It seems only logical that as long as the player in question never comes close to being involved in the fracas a suspension is not necessary. Ewing, Stoudemire and Diaw all moved toward the scrum but all three quickly retreated and avoided contact with the players currently on the floor.

The Knicks and Ewing were burned by the letter of the law. The Suns had 10 years to get it right and one moment in a great playoff series may have cost them their best chance at an NBA le. Ewing and the Knicks know the feeling.

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[jbspurs]

Excuse is not valid! the suspension happened game5 of the series. He played game 6 and still didn't win!!! By the way, game 5 and last season proved that Suns is more dangerous without him!!!

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Amare must be out of bait....

[Shred]

Shred,

What other NBA rules do you think the league should exercise discretion on when it comes to star players?

All rules, for all players. Otherwise, what's the point in having a commissioner?

[ShoogarBear]

Went right over your head...2 time.

Is that your standard answer when you don't have anything else?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

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[ChumpDumper]

What do state laws have to do with a child's game?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

All rules, for all players. Otherwise, what's the point in having a commissioner?

Oh, I don't know...keep the league's integrity and financial standing intact.

[Marcus Bryant]

What a difference Stoudemire made in Game 6.

[Shred]

That's a good one. It can replace the old "Mack Brown holding all his championship trophies" pic.

[exstatic]

Spoken like a man who's never complained about a speeding ticket in his life.

NBA did not suspend any members of Sacramento Kings who left the bench

Several Sacramento players left the bench area and raced down a tunnel leading to the locker rooms.

Thank you, Captain Stupid. They weren't on the court.

[O-Factor]

I disagree. I think if someone from the Suns had cheap-shotted Tony Parker in front of the Spurs bench then Duncan would have been on the floor. , he went on the floor during the potential or non-altercation earlier in the game (Bowen had to pull him back), so obviously he would have done it during the real deal and especially for a top player. It's just a natural human reaction. The point of the rule is to prevent fights, so it succeeded; flexibility should be applied to its enforcement, as it was with Duncan, taking into account whether the player actually joined the altercation or caught himself after the initial, instinctual response. These aren't robots they're human beings.

I'm surprised you guys are arguing this. I would have thought you'd have liked to beat the Suns full strength rather than have an asterix next to your le.

A Boston Celtic fan! I think you have bigger problems than to throw your two ing cents in here, lol. Thats what you get for tanking games. Getting set back 10-12 years.
Typical of a loser.

[Shred]

Journal Entry, June 6, 2007

Our interesting study in group psychology continues, with the asterisk-obsession of Spurs fan showing no signs of abating. Even on the eve of the Finals, they are starting threads about Amare. It doesn't appear anything can shake this monkey off their collective back.

[ClingingMars]

Spoken like a man who's never complained about a speeding ticket in his life.

NBA did not suspend any members of Sacramento Kings who left the bench

IT WAS A ING EXIBITION GAME FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! WILL YOU STOP YOUR ING WHINING, IT'S SO PATHETIC!

-Mars

[O-Factor]

Amare WILL NEVER win a championship with a whinny at ude like that. Once Nash breaks down, there goes Amares career.

[duncanchick21]

Amare you little

[Shred]

Several Sacramento players left the bench area and raced down a tunnel leading to the locker rooms.

Thank you, captain stupid. They weren't on the court.

I missed the "leaving the bench area and going on to the court" part of the rule. Can you point that out for me? thx

[ShoogarBear]

Journal Entry, June 6, 2007

Our interesting study in group psychology continues, with the asterisk-obsession of Spurs fan showing no signs of abating. Even on the eve of the Finals, they are starting threads about Amare. It doesn't appear anything can shake this monkey off their collective back.

You don't ever even have the vaguest acquaintence with facts, do you?

[ChumpDumper]

Journal Entry, June 6, 2007

I'm still a . Even douchier than before. I never knew this level of douchiousness could be attained. I must on, and fulfill my y destiny.

[Shred]

IT WAS A ING EXIBITION GAME FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! WILL YOU STOP YOUR ING WHINING, IT'S SO PATHETIC!

-Mars

I missed the part about the rules applying only in non-exhibition games. Can you point that out for me? thx

[FromWayDowntown]

Spoken like a man who's never complained about a speeding ticket in his life.

NBA did not suspend any members of Sacramento Kings who left the bench

Curiously, the Sacramento players didn't come within the ambit of the rule that Amare and Boris violated. The rule is intended to keep altercations on the floor from escalating into brawls by keeping extra players off the floor. The Sacramento situation didn't involve an altercation on the floor -- the Suns poor choices occurred during an altercation on the floor.

That, and obviously, the league likes the Kings more than it likes the Suns. Perhaps because Kings organziation and its fans aren't whiny es like Suns organization and fans are.

And you're right, I've never complained about a speeding ticket, because every time that I've gotten one, I broke the rule and got caught. Even if I had complained about those tickets, though, getting caught breaking the rule doesn't en le me to an exception if I complain enough about it -- it compels me to pay the no-exceptions penalty for breaking the rule.

[picnroll]

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Went right over your head didn't it.

[ClingingMars]

Journal Entry, June 6, 2007

Our interesting study in group psychology continues, with the asterisk-obsession of Spurs fan showing no signs of abating. Even on the eve of the Finals, they are starting threads about Amare. It doesn't appear anything can shake this monkey off their collective back.

ARE YOU THAT ING RE ED? LOOK AT WHO STARTED THIS THREAD. IT WAS THE 'SUPPOSSED' BOSTON CELTICS FAN!

-Mars