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    I wouldn't trade Duncan for anybody even if it would make the Spurs better in the long run. You don't trade your franchise player that's a proven winner. Even if Greg Oden will play in the league for another 15 years and Duncan only 4-6 years. Duncan has given the city of San Antonio so much that even the thought of trading him is an insult to him and what he has accomplished.

    I would rather see the Spurs down for a few seasons after Duncan retires then to trade him in his last seasons for a "future" star. Like the Knicks did to Patrick Ewing, that was disrespectfull by the Knicks.
    The Knicks did this to Ewing? I always thought he retired after their run in 99.

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    And there was a report that the Blazers turned down the #1 pick for Melo

    I dont believe it was true at all but if it was, then the Blazers management must be kicking themselves for the offers they refused lol

    Oden is a good kid and this sucks for him but he is overhyped anyway

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    And there was a report that the Blazers turned down the #1 pick for Melo

    I dont believe it was true at all but if it was, then the Blazers management must be kicking themselves for the offers they refused lol

    Oden is a good kid and this sucks for him but he is overhyped anyway
    If i was Portland I'd still turn down Oden for Melo.

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    2003 - Duncan after game 4 loss to Nets:
    (Coming off Game 4, the Spurs' only loss in the series, in which he scored 15 points and was 3-for-12 from the free throw line, Duncan was determined not to be what he called "a hindrance" again.)
    "I knew I had to put together a better performance," he said. "I didn't want to have one of those (games) again. I wanted to put together a better game, give our team a chance to win. I just don't like playing bad games. And when I do, I love to have a bounce-back game and put a performance together. ... You get in situations where you are in a bad game, and I am as guilty as anyone (of) getting down on myself and not playing through the entire game. I do need to get better at that, but at the same time I am what I am."
    (The Spurs responded with a big quarter, building a 13-point lead, and never trailed after that.)
    Ummmmm...the 2003 series against the Nets went 6 games...they also lost Game 2...this loss put the series at 2-2 and there were a few ledge-jumpers out there.

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    If i was Portland I'd still turn down Oden for Melo.
    and thats why your not a GM. Portland will be a lottery team for the next few years with or without Oden.......

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    and thats why your not a GM. Portland will be a lottery team for the next few years with or without Oden.......
    ... and Nuggets will never be a real contender with Melo as the franchise player. Portland has dreams with Oden. Denver has illusions with Melo.

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    ... and Nuggets will never be a real contender with Melo as the franchise player. Portland has dreams with Oden. Denver has illusions with Melo.

    Naw man, Melo will be really good in a couple years and a perrennial MVP candidate. Give him a couple complimentary players and a couple scorers and he's set to make a championship run.

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    ... and Nuggets will never be a real contender with Melo as the franchise player. Portland has dreams with Oden. Denver has illusions with Melo.

    The only thing they are dreaming about is Durant.......

    Your disillusioned if you think Oden will ever have the same career as Melo. I feel sorry for Oden coz people overhyped him beyond a joke. He will never fulfill peoples expectations coz they were unrealistic to begin.
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    Oden is 19 and has ed up cartiledge in his knee. He won't last at a high level of performance.

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    The only thing they are dreaming about is Durant.......

    Your disillusioned if you think Oden will ever have the same career as Melo. I feel sorry for Oden coz people overhyped him beyond a joke. He will never fulfill peoples expectations coz they were unrealistic to begin.
    Real franchise players, not fugazzi franchise players, are two way players. Does Melo vaguely, remotely, in your wildest dreams remind you of a two way player?

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    No.

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    Lebron is to Jordan as Melo is to Dominique.

    Last I checked, He never won a le.

    Don't give me this rubbish about a supporting cast, he's got/had one. He's just not going to get it done.

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    Naw man, Melo will be really good in a couple years and a perrennial MVP candidate. Give him a couple complimentary players and a couple scorers and he's set to make a championship run.
    What are you talking abt? AI, Camby, Nene not good enough? Do u want Kobe too?

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    Oden was never going to be more than a 15 and 12 type guy anyway. His offensive game is sort of limited, he will most likely be like a Dikembe Mutumbo with a little less defense and slightly better offense.

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    Ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha...NO!

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    What are you talking abt? AI, Camby, Nene not good enough? Do u want Kobe too?
    That's really all they have. A great starting lineup won't get you anywhere unless you have some reliable bench players to help with the perimeter D and knock down critical shots. Give the Nuggs some vets(guys like Finley, Barry, Bowen, etc) and they'd be a rich man's Phoenix S0ns. That's definately enough to challenge for a le.

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    No way do you definately trade Duncan for Oden. I can easily see Duncan still being better than Oden for years to come, even after he's on the downside of his career. I see Oden being nothing more than a 15 and 12 kind of guy, but with pretty good defense somewhere like 2-3 blocks per game. Nothing too special, especially not worth being a traitor to the guy that made your franchise what it is.

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    Oden is 19 and has ed up cartiledge in his knee. He won't last at a high level of performance.

    How sure is everyone that he is even 19? My guess is that in the end, it will be known that he had a false birth certificate.

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    i want to see oden for 2 years first, then i will tell you that
    Love your sig. I'd hit it...er, them...er...never mind.

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    We would not trade Oden for Duncan. Maybe LeBron, but it's debatable whether we would do that deal too.


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    This summer if you could?

    trading for Oden makes Spurs a dynasty most likely for 10+ years. With Duncan the Spurs will remain this good for at least 3 to 4.

    Any thoughts?


    Oden is among the worst #1 picks of all time...If you had asked about Durant, that would actually make sense. And the answer would still be a definitive no.

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    Great bump

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    Maybe three years from now!

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    Honestly the trailblazers medical staff is the problem in my mind far more than the guys evaluating talent that got them Roy, Oden and Aldridge. That said I hope in the future that Oden can rehab himself into a halfway decent NBA career, though he won't ever fulfill number 1 overall potential.

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    C'mon man. What is the point in all this?

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