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Duncan will get this year MVP..
But this playoffs has been a revelation about the games that Parker can play.. He will only get better.. This year Parker has been so >> Last year Parker
This looks like reasonable to me, but please, please, please, please, for the love of god, don't tell me is because he scores more than anyone else. He IS supposed to shoot 20+ times a game and at least come out with half of it made.If Parker gets it that means he will have been huge in the closeout game. I'm fine with that
I'm just saying 1) I think Duncan still gets it and 2) if you're going to consider Parker for his PPG, you've gotta consider Bowen for his all-around contributions.
Duncan will get this year MVP..
But this playoffs has been a revelation about the games that Parker can play.. He will only get better.. This year Parker has been so >> Last year Parker
It would seriously bring a tear to my eye if Bruce Bowen is hoisting the finals mvp trophy (given that we actually win this series)
yeah he better but other spur players do not have to be held to that standard right
Ok first I'll stop crying got all time and try to tell you why TP deserves it .
1) All the got who works in the media(journalist,announcer,specialist...) are still going for TP.
2)You're arguing That TP is shooting more blablabla...but if he doesn't shoot who scores???????????????????????????WHO????????????? Manu? he chokes tonight.
Barry?he isnt consistent
Fin? he sucks!!!!! he's like 3/20 or something like that.
Bowen?do you think because he knocked down 4 3's tonight that he is ray allen and he gonna do again and again?
And Tony is 7/17 tonight then he's the best ouf our big 3 in this exercise.
And he's 12/23 in the 1st game and 13/20 in the 2nd.
How can you do better than that? Give him a break.he's like 60% fg and I'm saying give him a break!!! isn't it ironic?
3)Plus we knew a better duncan in the finals and what Parker is doing is kinda surprising so this could be one of the reason too.
4)He's simply the second natural leader on the floor during these 3 first games: driving,kicking,being mature, not forcing,be clutch,spectucular,efficient, running the team with his agressiveness...I think it's enough to deserve MVP, if you think bowen deserves it too
Right, that's why you argued earlier in the thread that Parker should get it because Duncan didn't go off for 40 tonight.
Where did I argue TP is shooting more? Don't get me confused with anyone else on this thread.ou're arguing That TP is shooting more blablabla...but if he doesn't shoot who scores???????????????????????????WHO?????????????
TP scoring, which you argue should be why he gets MVP, is 4 PPG higher than TD.
Meanwhile, TD's got much higher numbers in boards, blocks, and is basically right there with him on assists.
Like I said, TP gets it, that means he has a huge close out game, and I won't complain at all.
End Of Trhead got!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
dude stop replying to that guy, he's a 12 year old who thinks points = greatness
1. Manu, Oberto and Finley all shot 7 times, I don't think they are supposed to shoot more than that. If they were to shoot as many as 20, maybe they would make some shots and get 20 pts a game.2)You're arguing That TP is shooting more blablabla...but if he doesn't shoot who scores???????????????????????????WHO????????????? Manu? he chokes tonight.
Barry?he isnt consistent
Fin? he sucks!!!!! he's like 3/20 or something like that.
Bowen?do you think because he knocked down 4 3's tonight that he is ray allen and he gonna do again and again?
And Tony is 7/17 tonight then he's the best ouf our big 3 in this exercise.
And he's 12/23 in the 1st game and 13/20 in the 2nd.
How can you do better than that? Give him a break.
3)Plus we knew a better duncan in the finals and what Parker is doing is kinda surprising so this could be one of the reason too.
4)He's simply the second natural leader on the floor during these 3 first games: driving,kicking,being mature, not forcing,be clutch,spectucular,efficient, running the team with his agressiveness...I think it's enough to deserve MVP, if you think bowen deserves it too
2. If you say he is the second natural leader on the floor, then who is the first in your opinion?
ducks contradicts himself. He confused me on his statement so I don't know what to respond.
I'm talking to outofTown and the other got I don't remember the name,not you aggie but the hater with a got picture...
yeah the got named TDMVPDPOY
Aggies.. Question for you.. If parker gets even better next year onwards.. will you please tame your parker bashing? Because one trend is going to be pretty obvious from now onwards.. Parker is getting better and better and Manu is not going to be the Mr do-it-all from this year onwards..
too much got going on in your posts. I think you might have a problem, houston.
I don't think Manu can do any of that starting in the bench IMO. But he is still one of the best players around.
I thought I was 12 so you are not supposed to respond me...
It's MANU!!!!
That's not a problem. I think he'll get to the point where he's the best point guard in the league. That's a lot of my frustration with him. He'll go out and score 30 with 7 assists one night, then come out and go for 10 points and 7 turnovers the next. That's brutal.
I just want him to do it really soon so that we can win a few more rings before TD hangs them up
I've got two autographed jerseys hanging in my place - one signed by Manu, one signed by Tony. 'Nuff said.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know somebody called you out already. 12 years old they said?
Duncan should get it. His numbers are over all better. Tony has had to take 64 shots to get his points. Too bad it can't be Bowen. That would be so sweet for him.
Last edited by rob5; 06-13-2007 at 12:45 AM.
Oh soory I'm confused...I thought you were one of those got who said 12, yeah,12...
Parker deserves it. I do believe just most of the Spurs fans here want Duncan to get it so that we can make the case that Duncan > Shaq.
One of the things that makes it hard is that we have had a different MVP in each game.
Game One - Tony Parker was at his absolute best. He ran the pick-and-roll to perfection, getting Duncan several dunks in the process. He was typically great in transition, converting his share of layups and threading the needle to Elson for an And-1 jam. Tim was right near him, getting his numbers and turning back the Cavs at the rim with those five blocks.
Game Two - Tim was the master, putting himself in the center of everything with his near triple-double. Tony's assists dropped off but for the second straight game he posted a new personal best in NBA Finals scoring.
Game three - Bruce Bowen made the King work his ass off and gave him some on the other end too. Tony was a lot shakier in this game, but he hit that massive three with a minute to go to extend the lead to five. It turned out to be bigger than expected as Sasha Pavlovic answered it with a three of his own. Tim also hit two big shots - back-to-back free throws to extend the lead to four.
So to my mind, Tony (Gm. 1), Tim (Gm. 2), and Bruce (Gm. 3) have been the MVP's of each game.
Why is it such a shock for TP to win the Finals MVP? Was Cedric Maxwell a more valuable player than Larry Bird in 1981? James Worthy more valuable than Magic in 1988? Tony has nicely elevated his game. Tim is incredible, one of the ten best players of all time, but he's playing at an old hat level for him.
Force me to vote for someone, and I'd have to vote for Tim. But Tony is very, very deserving this time around. It kind of resembles the 2005 situation.
Tony's pretty much playing like Manu in '05. He's been really impressive and clutch so far, and, I think, as steady as Tim has been. But as much as he has been brilliant, I'd still pick Timmy over him. TD's play is just more complete and it would be more devastating for the Spurs if Timmy were taken out of the equation than if Tony were. Same can be said for Bruce. Take him out and James explodes for 50.
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