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Do it.
But instead, trade Duncan for Kobe. Move Michael Finley to center and promote Beno to starting point guard.
Beno, Parker, Manu, Kobe and Finley would revolutionize the small-ball era.
Eat that Suns and Warriors!
damn i hope manu or the other spurs dont read this
Do it.
But instead, trade Duncan for Kobe. Move Michael Finley to center and promote Beno to starting point guard.
Beno, Parker, Manu, Kobe and Finley would revolutionize the small-ball era.
Eat that Suns and Warriors!
I get the feeling Kobe is past his prime, maybe he feels it too, in terms of being able to sustain enough of an offense for playoff duration, also it would be too big of a transition both on the court and off for him and his just trying to fit in, let alone having the necessary focus that would benefit the Spurs and the community/fans/neighbors, the list goes on.............
I'm not sure Kobe would be any good on the Spurs. But, the Spurs are shopping Beno and Barry, so why not, if LA will eat the salary.
But if he were good, man what a lineup!
And then imagine if Tony Parker could develop superhuman speed! Wow! Nobody could stop his penetration then! And maybe Manu could shoot laser beams from his eyes!
Kobe will not go anywhere he will have to play second fiddle to anyone .. He's much too selfish a player to be a member of the San Antonio Spurs....
the only player the lakers would take is parker......(besides duncan) if the lakers proposed the trade parker,barry and the rights for scola...give me walton in return and we got a deal
Kobe = Instant chemistry problems + ball-hogging + prima donna at ude
Screw him.
I know he's the single best talent in the NBA. However considering he's owed something like 88 mil over the next four years and has an opt-out clause after 2 years, why would anyone want to trade for him. He may easily up an walk.
Better yet - puleaze!
We have won 4 les in 9 years in the Duncan Era we do not need Kobe. He is a cancer in the lockeroom and a selfish player. Lakers will not give him up unless they rape your team in the process he is not worth the aggrevation.
Kobe is classless TRASH and the Spurs will NEVER put that TRASH on our ultra-classy team !! NEVER !! We don't want him and damn sure don't need his sorry worthless ass !!
No offense, but for anyone to suggest that the Spurs SHOULD go after Kobe, you've haven't been carefully observing how and what this franchise, the team and it's philosophy are all about.
You all are forgetting one thing when it comes to the Lakers wanting a lot for Kobe. The Spurs have probably the best GM in the league, and the Lakers have one of the worst. You're telling me RC couldn't figure out a way to fleece the Lakers in this deal the way Miami did with Shaq?
As for the type of team the franchise was building, we did have a nut case named Stephen Jackson on our team. And guess what, while he was here, he was a model citizen. That's due to the influence of Pop and Duncan. You're telling me that Kobe wouldn't respect Pop and Duncan. Pop doesn't play games. If Kobe was interested, Pop would tell him what he thinks, what Kobe's role would be, and how things are run. And if Kobe doesn't like it, then Pop would just say goodbye.
And if you're reading anything in Kobe's comments, it's that he's tired of the lying and the ring around. He'd love Pop's candor and brutal honesty. The Spurs organization has a system built within it that could withstand a person such as Kobe. Duncan is the man, but he doesn't need stats, on wins. Unlike Shaq, Duncan would make plays that will put Kobe in a position to succeed. Parker has shown he's about the team as well. Remember, while accepting the biggest award of his career, he talked about another teammate instead of himself.
Gino is the ultimate team player. I think he'd accept Kobe onto the team. And of course, there's Horry who could help with the transition.
Don't forget, the Spurs may free up some roster money. Nothing can be said until all of that shakes out after free agency. Should the Spurs lose a few players, maybe a trade of Beno, Barry, the rights to Scola, draft picks and what not could work because the Spurs may have the cap space to absorb the rest of the deal.
I'd imagine that if the Spurs wanted to, they could find a way to make it happen while sticking it to the Lakers.
Didn't you tell us that TP (1 Finals MVP) > Kobe (Zero), whottt?
If it ain't broke don't fix it. Don't forget Kobe is not just about winning les he is about being the man. That is why he and Shaq hated eachother at the end in LA. Kobe hated not being finals MVP during their 3 peat. You think Kobe would have been totally cool with Parker taking some of his glory in the finals this past year like Tim was not on your life. He needs to be loved and have all the attention winning is not enough it will never be enough for Kobe.
Lakers aren't going to trade Kobe to Western conference team, unless the team is surely going to be garbage after the trade.
Lakers will either keep Kobe or trade him to an Eastern team (remote possibility of trading him to a crap Western team, but Kobe won't allow this unless there are some extreme reasons).
While I would love kobe. Only a moron would trade one of the big 3 for him. We have a stable proven core and two of them are on the right side of 30. One of them will be for the next 5 years. Trading one of them for kobe...while without a doubt Kobe is better than parker or gino would be too big a risk. Not to mention that I have developed a connection with parker and gino. Kobe could blow our locker room up easily...not to mention his salary would eat us alive.
If we could get himi without letting go of one of the big 3 however...then I AM ALL FOR IT!!!
But this is an impossible thing to do anyway so this thread is nothing more than a way to have fun in the offseason.
We just won and some people want trade Manu team-is-everything Ginobili for Kobe-selfish-me-me-me Bryant
Let's just say the Spurs, hypothetically, did trade Manu for Kobe. If we lost in the playoffs, you'd all say we would have won with Manu. If Kobe torched teams for the playoffs and we repeated, you guys would be all up on his nuts.
In fact you'd be all up on his nuts the first time he drops 50 on a team in a Spurs uniform (2 better than Manu's career high), which would probably be the first game of the season. I hated Kobe as much as the next guy when the Lakers were good, but Kobe is a great basketball player, he wants to win, and he respects the Spurs, Popovich, and Bowen. I don't think he'd destroy this team, because Tim Duncan wouldn't let him come to his team and ruin it. If we could trade Manu to get Kobe, as much as I like Manu, I do that trade. I'd bet you Kobe plays a lot better when he doesn't have the pressure to carry the team. At this point in his career, Kobe enjoyed a 3-peat, which not many teams can say they've done, and wants back to the promised land. I think he'd accept a lesser role on the Spurs if it meant more rings.
If we could trade for Kobe without losing Manu or Parker, this team would win championships every year until TD retires.
But sadly, even if the Spurs dumped some contracts in a trade, I don't think they can afford Kobe. I could see the Lakers trading him to a west team this time, because with Shaq they had to get him East to protect Kobe from being eliminated by a Shaq-led team unless it was in the Finals. He could end up in SA if the right strings are pulled but it's probably not going to happen.
The franchise has been about winning, and having Kobe on your team along with the Big 3 is a definite le favorite, and a major upgrade in talent over years past. Plus, adding an otherwordly talent in his prime can't hurt a team that much considering how strong the foundation is to begin with.
As I said and someone else said as well, trade for Kobe, but not Parker, Duncan or Gino. Anyone but those 3 and you do that trade in a heartbeat.
Anyone who wouldn't want Kobe hasn't been paying attention to what this franchise has been about the past 10 years, winning more than any other team in the 4 major sports.
Lakers can get an all-star level player for kobe. Phoenix could give them Marion and either Barbosa or Diaw and not blink.
Do you think the Lakers would take our garbage for Kobe? They would likely want Manu AND Parker.
Don't forget Kobe is worth more than just the points; he sells jerseys. He is worth money for the organization he is with.
What did AI net? Andre Miller (good but no longer elite), Joe Smith (below average but servicable), and 2 first round draft picks. However, the difference being that Kobe is IN his prime, and AI is clearly on the down slope of his, to be honest...
Unless Spurs give up Either Manu or Parker, and most likely both, the Lakers have better offers from NY, Chicago, Phoenix, and other WINNERS besides us.
Please, I beg of you, stop thinking (and posting) otherwise.
Kobe to SA? Not in this lifetime.
Some spur funs want to prove spur still can win the le without Manu. Maybe because these years Manu save spurs too many times. Some fans just cannot tolerate this. In fact, maybe not just Manu, spur fans want to prove spur can win the le without any certain person, as long as this team is called San Antonio Spurs.
From history, this is why a hero's tragedy start!
Kobe wants to Win.
Get Rid of Manu! He'll be happy in LA.
KOBE! KOBE! KOBE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T64TQw4BUwA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb_BNQSjFyg
Last edited by TradeManu4Kobe; 06-18-2007 at 10:55 PM.
I assume you are a laker fun.
Make it happen R C:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...24~13~13~13~13
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