If the team feels that a trade for Nocioni is going to happen then the roster turnover can be quite minimal while also filling our needs and bringing in some youth.
Trade Beno + Barry + Scola for Andrés Nocioni (toss in our 08 first rounder if need be)
Sign your pick of either Theodoras Papaloukas or Aaron Miles to be our backup PG. Resign Vaughn to be the 3rd PG.
Sign Ian Mahinmi and bring him over to play mostly in Austin.
Resign Finley or Oberto if they opt out of their contracts (which I feel is unlikely at the moment anyways).
Draft foreign players with all 3 picks:
28: Koponen
33: Belinelli
58: Yue
Sign an undrafted FA like DJ Strawberry (most likely won't be drafted) to fill out the roster. I like Strawberry because hes an athletic defensive minded wing. With a year in the system he might be a decent role player...especially with Finley and Bowen a question mark for the future.
Tony Parker/Theodoras Papaloukas or Aaron Miles/Jacque Vaughn
Michael Finley/Manu Ginobili/DJ Strawberry
Andrés Nocioni/Bruce Bowen/James White
Tim Duncan/Robert Horry/Ian Mahinmi
Fabricio Oberto/Jackie Butler/Francisco Elson
Voila. We just got younger through the draft, but didn't have to lose our already quality roster. Plus we resolved our needs of a backup PG and a long 3/4. Not to mention we handled the Scola situation.
Last edited by Darkwaters; 06-17-2007 at 04:09 PM.
The game that impressed me was against the Grizzlies. The Spurs deactivated pretty much of everybody and let White and Butler start. The Grizzlies were actually trying and were playing with their usual rotation(although I think Miller was injured), so Butler had to go up against Gasol, Warrick, Johnson, and Swift. He finished with around 14pts and 10rebs.
It must suck to be you. How bitter you've become because the Spurs dumped Rasho.
The Spurs front office sees EVERY transaction as important, if not now, then down the road. The cleared caproom by making those transactions to allow them to make move in the future that WILL impact championships.
Darkwaters knows his .
Props to meDarkwaters knows his .
So let's recap ploto's recent takes:
Javtokas > Butler
Scola > Elson
Beno > Vaughn
Barry > Finley
Rasho > Williams + Ely
Ginobili > Parker
Nash > Horry
Pavlovic is a stud
Ilgauskas is unguardable
A pattern might be developing but I can't put my finger on it . . .
did spurs win it all?
The only thing I would've changed is not signing Strawberry and putting Belinelli in his spot.Props to me
Spurs dominated on their way to a championship so that means their offseason was a success. I don't care if the Spurs had given Elson a max contract to make it happen.
It happened. Spurs win. Haters lose.
Michelson > Woods ?
Belinelli has a sizeable buyout this year and he has said in the past that he wants to come to the NBA as an established player. That being said, if we could get him here next season I'd be all for it. I just don't see it happening.
If the Spurs followed this plan we would be talking about drafting Corey Brewer instead of Jared Dudley.
That explains it.
I don't get how you think Javtokas is better than Butler.
Did you watch him this year? In the minutes Robertas got off the bench, he sucked. He looked immobile and horrible. In the minutes Jackie got off the bench in the second half of the season, he was good.
So where is Kobe going?
ploto is right, we would have won a championship this season if we had only given Javtokas the full MLE and Scola 2/3 of the MLE.
And kept Rasho.
And started Beno.
And started games at a time that gave Boerne residents time to pick up their dry cleaning.
And respected the solemn sanc y of Father's Day.
Etc.
To New York.
We don't have to take Strawberry. I was just throwing out a name that I figured might be there, fit in our roster, and could very well eventually have a spot on this team. But if any of our players from summer league seem overly impressive then they can have that spot for all I care. In fact, we have this Austrian PF coming over for the summer league this year that might warrant a longer look if he does enough this July.
How much did Javtokas do for his team this year?
And the Spurs played in Division 4 College Basketball.
The thing about Elson and Butler is they played real games in the National Basketball Association -- known quan ies that signed extremely managable (and if necessary, tradeable) contracts.
Win-win.
And win....
The players the Spurs got this past year helped during the regular season, but not so much during the playoffs. The highlights were:
1. Elson didn't get up fighting when he was undercut in Game 4 vs. the Suns. This was a good thing because Duncan had stepped onto the court.
2. Vaughn didn't play as badly as Beno would have.
But for the Spurs, it's really hard to tell about players the first year here. It seems to take two years for Spurs players to get it, e.g., Oberto.
Or in the case of Beno Udrih...5 years?
Robertas Javtokas's Stats Last Season:
Regular Season: 8.3mpg, 2.4ppg, 1.4rpg, .1apg, .3bpg, 1.6fpg, 57%FG, 29%FT
Playoffs-Top Sixteen:10.8mpg, 5.3ppg, 1.7rpg, .3apg, .7bpg, 2fpg, 50%FG, 57%FT
Playoffs-Top Eight: 10mpg, 1ppg, 2.5rpg, 0apg, .5bpg, .5fpg, 50%FG, Didn't shoot any FT's
Playoffs-Final Four: 3 mpg, 0ppg, 0rpg, 0 apg, 2bpg, 1fpg, Didn't take any shots or FT's
ENTIRE SEASON: 8.5mpg, 2.6ppg, 1.6rpg, .1apg, .2bpg, 1.5fpg, 61.3%FG, 35.5%FT
http://www.euroleague.net/compe io...=pan&pcode=BVE
Tell the Spurs to trade Butler and sign this guy!!!
I find it funny that many of you guys want to change so much. Many of you don't want Jacque Vaughn back despite his good playing esp. in the playoffs. He's not a great PG but then again we don't need a great PG to back up Tony. Vaughn is more then capable of being our backup for next season. He plays tough D and is a good leader on the floor and he has experience. He'll cost us the vet min which is good.
Nocioni isn't comming this summer. The Spurs front office know they won't afford him. Bowen will be our starting SF until he retires so stop trying to find someone else to start for us.
The Spurs, IMO, should re-sign Vaughn, package Beno to try to go higher in the draft and then draft someone athletic that has the potential to someday replace Bowen. Sign Luis Scola even if that means using most of the mid level.
Don't re-sign Bonner since Horry is going to play one more season and hopefully Scola will be here next season. If Scola doesn't arrive this summer then we should re-sign Bonner. Try to trade Butler for a future draft pick. Sign a third stringer like Travis Diener and bring over Mahinmi and develop him by sending him to the NBDL.
That would give the Spurs a team of; Duncan, Parker, Manu, Bowen, Oberto, Finley, Scola, Barry, Elson, Vaughn, White, Horry, Mahinmi, Diener, and a draft pick SF/SG.
After next season we'll have some flexability with Barry, Bowen, and Finley comming of the books. Until then the Spurs shouldn't change the roster much, just add a couple of pieces.
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