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piggy bank.
Yeah, RC was at the press conference introducing Snyder, which was a surprise at the time -- now I know why.
Cheyne is a nice guy and a decent point guard. He's pretty close to NBA quality. If he doesn't make it I hope to see him in Austin again.
I actually like the Toros' team colors. I bought enough merchandise that I don't want them to change.The Spurs/Toros thing will be awesome. Unfortunatly the Rio Grande team has silver and black.
2 words:
piggy bank.
At the same time, more of your draft picks are staying in the states instead of playing for the benefit of foreign teams and leagues.
I think it could easily be changed to do so. As long as there are enough players getting actual NBA roster spots and salaries, I don't see much of a problem.I think it would be wonderful if teams could sign 2nd round picks to what amount to minor league contracts (ala MLB) and assign them to a developmental team if they're unable to make the big league squad. But I don't think that the infrastructure exists in the CBA to allow that to happen now.
I think the NBA is going to subsidize the NBDL in any way they can and as much as possible to ensure it's success. They want it to succeed...they want it to help stave off the Euroleagues catching up to them. The fact that the small market /udget tight Spurs have bought into it is going to make the NBA exceedingly happy IMO, and the other teams aren't going to have much of an excuse to not avail themselves of the resource. I think the NBA will probably be looking for a way to throw an advantage to the NBA teams buying into the NBDL, rather than attempting to penalize them.
Yeah i think i have just about all of it to...even the kids stuff for my goddaughter.... but would love to at least see them do they affiliate night in silver and black austin toros alternate jerseys or even just spurs jerseys. Seeing them in the Rockets uniforms last year made me sick..lol
Sure, but short of a unilateral change in the middle of the term of this CBA, there wouldn't appear to be any way to create special exceptions for NBDL use.
If the Spurs want to put 3 guys whose rights they hold in Austin, it seems to me that the Spurs have to sign them to NBA deals and then send them down -- that means, I think, that the Spurs have to keep the roster spots available for those guys even while they're in Austin (though I'll admit that I could be mis-remembering that part of the equation). I can't see that too many teams are going to be anxious to eat up NBA flexibility for the sake of NBDL development.
(I'm thinking aloud here, so pardon me if I'm slowly working around to logic that others have figured out a long time ago. )
I suppose that I could see, though, that the league might not balk at the Spurs using the Austin franchise to sign players who are Spurs property but not yet signed to NBA deals and using that means as, essentially, a basis to develop younger players. There wouldn't necessarily be an advantage for the Spurs, because if they wanted to obtain whatever benefits those players might offer, they'd have to relinquish an NBA player before calling up the NBDL kid and signing him to an NBA deal. That creates a systemic disadvantage to developing a shuttling system.
With guys like domestic 2nd rounders who go to camp with the team that drafts them, there would also be a requirement that the big club release the player at the end of camp before attempting to sign him to the NBDL deal. That gives the player a chance to catch on elsewhere and be in the NBA, I suppose, before settling for a spot on a development roster.
I'm convinced.
I should go to the draft party they are having downtown, but I get the feeling there will be some dead men walking among the staff.
Whoa, my man Buckman is on the Toros???? I bet he's one of the best rebounders on the team.
Kick ass! Living in Austin I love this move. See ya Celtics and Rockets! GO TOROS GO!
He was pretty awful actually.
According to an ESPN.com article:
"The starting salary is $27,500 and the highest anyone is paid is $40,000."
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/mckendry/020108.html
Yes Freakn Great
Me and the mookie crew are going to crash your D-League Show one of these days...it's been discussed, and plans are in the works...be ready for it..Anthony
Well you make some valid points...I'll just say that in this case...I expect the Spurs made this move for more reasons than just the obvious benefits. They always seem to know something no one else does.
Spurs Purchase D-League’s Austin Toros
Posted Jun 28 2007 6:20PM
NEW YORK, June 28 – The National Basketball Association announced today that the 2006-07 NBA Champion San Antonio Spurs have signed an agreement to purchase the Austin Toros of the NBA Development League (“D-League”) from Southwest Basketball, LLC.
"The Spurs are one of the most respected and well-run organizations in sports,” said NBA Commissioner David Stern. “When the four-time champions understand the benefits of investing in the D-League, it’s a great referendum on our minor league's ability to develop players, coaches and front office staff for NBA teams.”
As owners of the Austin D-League franchise, the Spurs will oversee all aspects of the organization, including the offensive and defensive systems the Toros run in practices and games, the hiring of staff – including coaches – and ticket and sponsorship sales. San Antonio will also have exclusive rights to assign its players with one or two years of NBA experience to the Toros. Austin is coached by former University of Missouri coach Quin Snyder.
“The San Antonio Spurs organization is thrilled to add the Austin Toros to our family,” said Spurs General Manager R.C. Buford. “The D-League has a proven track record of developing talent both on and off the court. By owning our own team, we are now in a great position to develop our young players within our system and with our input. It’s a terrific opportunity for us and we can’t wait to get started.”
The Spurs are the second NBA team to own and operate their own D-League affiliate, joining the Los Angeles Lakers who own the Los Angeles D-fenders. During the 2006-07 season, the Lakers hired their own coaching staff to teach the “Triangle Offense” to the D-fender players and most notably used the assignment system to enable guard Jordan Farmar to become the first player to participate in an NBA game and D-League game in the same day.
"The D-League is a great source of talent and a terrific forum for young players and coaches to develop their skills," said Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak. "Our ownership of the D-Fenders has been a great opportunity for the Lakers organization and we are looking forward to continuing to develop our relationship with the D-League in the future."
Since the NBA began the assignment system with the D-League prior to the 2005-06 season, NBA teams have assigned 53 players a total of 77 times, including 30 selections from the 2005 and 2006 NBA Drafts. Last season, a total of 47 former NBA draft picks played in the D-League. Lottery selections such as Portland’s Martell Webster (6th pick overall in 2005), Golden State’s Patrick O’Bryant (9th pick, 2006) and Seattle’s Mouhamed Sene (10th pick, 2006) were assigned to their respective team’s D-League affiliate.
Entering its seventh season, the D-League – the NBA’s minor league established to develop talent across all disciplines for the NBA – will be relocating its headquarters from Greenville, S.C. to New York City to help foster the D-League's continued growth by giving it direct access to the support and resources of the NBA and WNBA. During the 2006-07 season, 19 NBA teams assigned 24 players to D-League rosters, and 14 NBA teams called-up 16 players (‘Gatorade Call-ups’) while 31 D-League alumni participated in the NBA Playoffs. Additionally, every referee hired by the NBA since 2002 has worked in the D-League, while coaches, athletic trainers and front office executives are also being developed.
http://www.nba.com/news/spurs_toros_070628.html
..........and so.........could we perhaps see some Sept. scrimmages between Toros team and Spurs rooks?
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“They do a great job of their system and staying true to form,
making big plays in big moments,” Suns coach Mike D'Antoni
told reporters in Phoenix on Thursday. “That's what we're
trying to get. Mental toughness, being lucky, I don't know
what it is.”
The Spurs, D”Antoni added, just seem to “believe a little bit
more.”
“All the time,” he said.
The Toros won't even have their team together by then.
I went and it was actually pretty packed...spirits were actually pretty high...tomorrow is the big meeting with the spurs at the toros office.
Most of the Toros front office and even the mascot worked for the spurs and even have some rings from their time with the spurs so i dont think there will be to much turnover at least not initially.
i can't stand that greasy bas . other wise, he's ok....Very nice
First order of business should to fire Quin Snyder and hire a real coach.
I'll believe it when I see it. I wouldn't be shocked by scorched earth save Da Bull and the trainer.
Go ahead and get rid of Quinn. Dude sucks.
Should've spent the money on pick #24 or #30 - both sold to Portland for Cash...
How many low draft picks does an NBA champion need?
Those were Fernandez and Koponen respectively. Both of whom are real talent. Take talent where you can get it man. Not to mention they both fit on the draft and stash plan, not taking up roster spots until reasonably developed.
We did.Take talent where you can get it man.Not to mention we already have five guys doing that, and there's nothing to indicate they'll be any better than the guys already in the pipeline.Not to mention they both fit on the draft and stash plan, not taking up roster spots until reasonably developed.
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