Bogut takes shot at NBA players, U.S. culture

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Kids a millionaire, here for the money, whose hobby seems to be throwing his money away on cars and gambling.

He can say he's better than all the greedy famous millionaries in the NBA all he wants...

He's just going to look like a when he himself is one, when he himself took the path to instant wealth...and that's just the way it is.


In short...I'll be more impressed with his depth and social awareness when he's doing something more than taking the money, buying cars, and gambling.


Until then...this guy is a country boy that can't handle living in a culturally and ethnically diverse country like America. He hasn't had to do that living in Australia...

I fail to see where I've argued any different or given you any reason to back up your second statement towards me. I've only said that the kid can say whatever he wants and doesn't need to put up numbers to have original opinions, whatever they may be.

[Kamnik]

I guess Bogut has to do whatever it takes to shift the focus away from the fact that a number one overall draft pick is putting up Rasho numbers for a team that can't win 30 games in the Eastern Conference.

doesnt have anything to do what it is being discussed here

even though it is the truth he is nowhere near where a #1 pick should be on average and we all know it (as does the rest of the league/people)

[whottt]

I fail to see where I've argued any different or given you any reason to back up your second statement towards me. I've only said that the kid can say whatever he wants and doesn't need to put up numbers to have original opinions, whatever they may be.

You come off as a Bogut apologist...whether that was your intent or not...

[PM5K]

I guess Bogut has to do whatever it takes to shift the focus away from the fact that a number one overall draft pick is putting up Rasho numbers for a team that can't win 30 games in the Eastern Conference.

That's what I'm saying, how is he going to act arrogant or "American" when he isn't even one of the premier players in the league....

[PM5K]

And Bogut is a pussy and he sucks, he should have been a second round pick, end of story...

[Kamnik]

I guess I agree with Kamnik, Bogut and Blaze...


Black people need to start acting white. Like they do in Australia(the two that live there). Edit: And Argentina...these guys come from countries where many cultures and skin colors live together in perfect harmony...

Are you black? (im not mocking you; a serious question)

[timvp]

Are you black? (im not mocking you; a serious question)

No, whottt doesn't waste money.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

You come off as a Bogut apologist...whether that was your intent or not...

And here I was thinking you were smart enough to have recognized where my statements were intended to fall on and to take me for what I say (and not what you infer).

[whottt]

So if Bogut can't say what he wants (again, whatever he wants and as ill-advised of an opinion that it is),

Bogut can say he what he wants...and others can base their opinion of him based on his comments, and speak about it, as well.

what gives you the right as a failed real estate agent to offer your opinions?

You see me offering any Real Estate Opinions?

[Obstructed_View]

I seem to recall France trying to make a law allowing people under 26 to be fired from their job in an attempt to increase job compe ion and productivity. People rioted in the streets to kill the attempt. That sounds pretty selfish to me.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Bogut can say he what he wants...and others can base their opinion of him based on his comments, and speak about it, as well.

Do you see me saying you guys can't?

You see me offering any Real Estate Opinions?

No, but I see you offering opinions on society in general...like one Andrew Bogut is doing.

[whottt]

What's funny is people somehow thinking that because Bogut is a millionaire from Australia he's some how in touch and has his finger on the pulse of hte NBA and this country...when he doesn't...and we should somehow fix this country so he won't have the wrong, generalized and culturally intolerant and uninformed opinion of it any longer.

He doesn't. He's a millionaire and is about as in touch with the average American as Michael Jackson is. And experience in being accepting of other cultures as anything other than lipservice might get him into the KKK and that's about it. And I'd say he has a generalizing mindset about the NBA as well...

There are ton of guys that are about more than just bling and greed in the NBA...

[Kamnik]

No, whottt doesn't waste money.

im asking because he seems so damn emo about it

from my own experience i found black people way more resentful, racist, touchy, whatever (from time when i was in the UK)

where i live there is not a single black person

but when a from time to time someone comes along he is treated almost as a rock star

racism doesnt exist here; maybe just nationalism

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

There are ton of guys that are about more than just bling and greed in the NBA...

No .

[Kamnik]

There are ton of guys that are about more than just bling and greed in the NBA...

this is a spur fans forum.....


people here probably dont know a single player who is like that

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

this is a spur fans forum.....


people here probably dont know a single player who is like that

I know you're trying to be funny, but did you read the Derek Fisher thread in the Spurs forum?

[whottt]

im asking because he seems so damn emo about it

from my own experience i found black people way more resentful, racist, touchy, whatever (from time when i was in the UK)

where i live there is not a single black person

Racism is a sign of a lack of education, and cause of the ignorant...no matter where you find it, and no matter what color it is. It's a primitive method of unification...the most primitive I'd say. The lesser the education, the more likely you are to find it in an individual.

but when a from time to time someone comes along he is treated almost as a rock star

racism doesnt exist here; maybe just nationalism

Racism doesn't exist in so many countries because there isn't much racial diversity in many countries...how can it exist when the factors behind it aren't there, and it never has to be dealt with?





America is the least racist country in the World IMO. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist here...but it has to be confronted here more than most...it's definitely the largest country that has to confront these differences.


I wish I had a dollar for evey time some guy from a country that's all white or black or brown lent his bleeding heart to the poor minorities of some country 3000 miles away, while completely missing the forest for the trees(actually, the complete lack of a forest) in his own...

[Kamnik]

I know you're trying to be funny, but did you read the Derek Fisher thread in the Spurs forum?

i just checked it out and i can just say Derek Fisher has my eternal respect

i also loved when Horry said he will just teach his daughter learn how to drive a bycicle instead of watching the game when asked about the christmas LAL-miami matchup

like anyone cares about that; i found it as almost as stupid then as i see the Paris Hilton situation now

media sucks more and more everywhere

[Obstructed_View]

racism doesnt exist here; maybe just nationalism

I don't know where "here" is, but .

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Racism is a sign of a lack of education, and cause of the ignorant...no matter where you find it, and no matter what color it is. It's a primitive method of unification...the most primitive I'd say. The lesser the education, the more likely you are to find it in an individual.




Racism doesn't exist in so many countries because there isn't much racial diversity in many countries...how can it exist when the factors behind it aren't there, and it never has to be dealt with?





America is the least racist country in the World IMO. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist here...but it has to be confronted here more than most...it's definitely the largest country that has to confront these differences.


I wish I had a dollar for evey time some guy from a country that's all white or black or brown lent his bleeding heart to the poor minorities of some country 3000 miles away, while completely missing the forest for the trees(actually, the complete lack of a forest) in his own...

Well, at least there's something we agree on (for the most part).

[Kamnik]

Racism doesn't exist in so many countries because there isn't much racial diversity in many countries...how can it exist when the factors behind it aren't there, and it never has to be dealt with?

true

average person here per say hates the "gipsies" (dont know the spelling or the correct word)

that is just as bad as being racist... so yeah, people are similar everywhere

stupid/uneducated atleast

[whottt]

Well, at least there's something we agree on.

SO why are you defending Bogut because he never had to live with Black People in Austrailia? It doesn't make him smarter...and he's not speaking from a position of experience...


I know you are on some side issue about how the fact that he sucks shouldn't prevent him from having an opinion...it shouldn't...but the opinion is a stupid and generalizing one...and there is plenty there to criticize, whether he sucks as a player, or not.

[Kamnik]

I don't know where "here" is, but .

Slovenia

and no... were not all pussies like Rasho and Beno

[Kamnik]

SO why are you defending Bogut because he never had to live with Black People in Austrailia? It doesn't make him smarter...and he's not speaking from a position of experience...

in most foreign countries (like Slovenia or Australia) you are being soaked with American (and diferent sub-cultures in it) on daily basis

you see films, do entaries, talk to many people who travel there and today many people go there for a vacation etc

he got a lot of experience before and even more now as he lives there

he knows what he is talking about if you ask me

you dont need to be a geniuss to get to know a county and its mentality in a couple of years

[whottt]

There are ton of guys that are about more than just bling and greed in the NBA...

Addendum:

And Bogut's not one of them based on this interview. Not even close. Basically he doesn't show off...BFD, I'd rather a guy not suck and showoff than suck and not.