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What about at the end of next season?
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What about at the end of next season?
Teams should pay around $45M in luxury tax, the penalty for being $1 above the tax threshold will be around $1.5M.
Great job, guys.
Thankfully shooters are pretty numerous, although the long defensive 3 we need will be harder to find.
Can we acquire a second round draft pick or two in next year's draft to spend on swingmen in the second round? Might be a way to acquire cheap players to fill out the roster.
I'm sure we will trim that $2M away. Hopefully it will be trading Scola and Beno for a 1st rounder or something.
Many times I would agree with that. But Bruce looks to be as fit as any 25 year old. Maybe he found that fountain of youth somewhere and is just keeping it a secret.
I know age can creep up on you and cost you a step or two, but right now Bruce looks as good as he did any of the past 3 or years. I would guess he probably has another 2 or 3 in him if he desires it.
Moving Barry would solve the cap issues.
I guess that would actually require another team wanting Barry.
But his price tag really isn't that high, and I think he's still capable of bringing a lot to a team.
A post Butler analysis of the luxury tax situation:
Tim Duncan -- $19,014,188
Tony Parker -- $10,500,000
Manu Ginobili -- $9,079,811
Brent Barry -- $5,544,370
Bruce Bowen -- $4,125,000
Robert Horry -- $3,630,000
Fabricio Oberto -- $3,167,420
Michael Finley -- $3,103,000
Francisco Elson -- $3,000,000
Matt Bonner -- $2,750,000
Beno Udrih -- $1,747,096
Jacque Vaughn - $1,219,590 ($770,610 against the luxury tax)
$66,431495 against the tax for 12 players
The Luxury tax threshold is $67.865M, Spurs are $1.43M.
Mahinmi should cost $938,760 (he could cost less but it's unlikely).
Marcus Williams cost $427,163.
James White cost $770,610.
So if Spurs wants to go under the tax and if they sign Mahinmi, they had to waive James White but they can keep Marcus Williams.
Which fits right in with Ludden bashing White and praising Williams.So if Spurs wants to go under the tax and if they sign Mahinmi, they had to waive James White but they can keep Marcus Williams.
Expect that to be the next move and then summer over.
Tim Duncan -- $19,014,188
Tony Parker -- $10,500,000
Manu Ginobili -- $9,079,811
Brent Barry -- $5,544,370
Bruce Bowen -- $4,125,000
Robert Horry -- $3,630,000
Fabricio Oberto -- $3,167,420
Michael Finley -- $3,103,000
Francisco Elson -- $3,000,000
Matt Bonner -- $2,750,000
Beno Udrih -- $1,747,096
Jacque Vaughn - $1,219,590 ($770,610 against the luxury tax)
Ian Mahinmi -- $938,760
Marcus Williams -- $427,163
NBA's Luxury Tax Threshold: $67,865,000
Current Salaries + Williams and Mahinmi: $67,797,418
If the Spurs go with the above 14 players for 2007-08 season, they'll be under the NBA's luxury tax threshold by $67,582.
That roster might not be good enough but Holt will be happy.
If the Spurs trade away Beno for nothing, the Spurs could sign Udoka to a three-year, $5.84M contract and stay under the luxury tax threshold. You can bet that's the deal the Spurs have on the table for Udoka ... and that's why he's hesitating signing with the Spurs.
Has anyone noticed the the amount of players we should be losing next year? It looks like we will lose almsot half the team. sheesh
1. Horry already said he is gone
2. Barry contract year,,pretty much in horry mode
3. Bowen,, 50-50...i woner
4. Beno doubt he even survives training camp
5. Finley last year up in 08...how long cna he go?
6. Vaughn Probably look for a back sometime during the year
Thats a ton of holes to fill for the next year. ok, , so we have splitter an Ian, still alot of work to do.
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No, absolutely no one has noticed that at all.
I think that all the players above mentioned (with the only more than probable exclusion of Udrih, who's already "en trein" of being traded for nothing) could receive an offer to stay for the minimum...or something little more.
So, in case some of our "old men" don't break during the season I don't see reasons for the management not to give them an offer and, if they like the enviroment, like I think they all do, they all could stay...they know the system, their market value will not be too high ('cause of age) and they could be still more valuable to the team, expecially come play off time - that some young player with no experience.
yes, that's pretty much like a LLE deal with an addional 3rd year.
it's better than playing for the minimum, but for sure much less than Udoka is expecting.
and it leaves one question: the Blazers have the LLE left, the best what they could offer Udoka. they might have already offered it to him and IMO for the same money, he would stay in his hometown.
(yes, the Blazer have no open spots, but there are some rumors about Miles not comming back and also about a LaFrentz buyout, so there might be a spot for Udoka left soon)
another thought.
we expect the Spurs to sign a FA, even more since they now waived White.
but is it completly out of discussion, that a trade will happen? (a S&T?)
not that the Spurs did own good assets, even less since they gave away Scola and Butler, but I'm just guessing.
the Pavlovic situation in Cleveland for example is still undecided, we know there were talks about Beno and also about Scola, I wonder if some other options have also been discussed.
(of course nothing will happen, till the Varejao question is solved)
I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs going slight over the luxury tax threshold.
After all, they were over it for these last two years.
Post Udoka update :
- Espn trade machine is saying that Oberto salary is $3.5M (flat contract) and Bonner salary is $2.7M. I think espn gets this number from the nba front office, they should be accurate.
- Udoka contract is slightly above $2M for 2 years. let's say it's $1M for the first year and $1.08M for the second year.
- I assume Spurs will release Spanoulis and won't have to give him money.
Tim Duncan -- $19,014,188
Tony Parker -- $10,500,000
Manu Ginobili -- $9,079,811
Brent Barry -- $5,544,370
Bruce Bowen -- $4,125,000
Robert Horry -- $3,630,000
Fabricio Oberto -- $3,500,000
Michael Finley -- $3,103,000
Francisco Elson -- $3,000,000
Matt Bonner -- $2,700,000
Beno Udrih -- $1,747,096
Ime Udoka -- $1,000,000
Jacque Vaughn - $1,219,590 ($770,610 against the luxury tax)
Spurs team salary : $67,714,075 against the tax for 13 players.
The Luxury tax threshold is $67.865M, Spurs are $150K under it.
If Spurs want to sign other player like Mahinmi and Williams without paying the tax, they will have to dump a player (likely Beno) for a trade exception or for a player with a lower salary.
Nice work. It looks like if the Spurs trade away Beno for nothing and then sign Mahinmi and Williams, they'll be under the threshold. However, we've seen the Spurs over the threshold in the past so perhaps they'll opt to keep Beno while adding those two other players.
Once V-Span is officially decided one way or another, I'd expect the next domino to drop to be Mahinmi. Although I do find it su ious that Buford is so non-committal whenever he speaks of Mahinmi.
Spurs could definitely use another big man and a younger wing player- even if just for practice. I think they want to keep someone to be a real third PG- so if they trade Beno away, they need someone. Whatever happened with the Hudson story?
If Spurs dump Beno somewhere, they will be $1.9M under the tax.
Williams will cost $427K against the tax.
The 3rd PG will cost $771K against the tax.
Mahinmi will cost between $626K and $939K (first round picks could sign between 80% and 120% of the rookie scale.
If Spurs want to stay under the tax, they can :
- Sign a PG, Williams and Mahinmi for $702K. I'm not sure Mahinmi and his agent will agree to that.
- Sign Mahinmi to $939K, Williams and a PG without guaranteed contract for the training camp. If Williams sucks, Spurs keep the PG and waive Williams. If Williams plays well, Spurs keep Williams and waive the PG. Spurs could still sign a PG (the PG cut at the training camp or another one) at the middle of the season and stay under the tax.
Anyway, Spurs must first find someone ready to take Beno.
Probably already mentioned but you forget Udoka's 2 year deal in there as well.
FO must be annoyed at themselves that they picked up Beno's option...
you never know when one of your PG's might get injured and out of the roster for some games.. so it's almost like an insurance policy... but now for another NBA team to pay that for him... UNTRADABLEFO must be annoyed at themselves that they picked up Beno's option...
For some reason, that Barry salary really bothers me. Maybe it's because of it's relative location on the list.
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